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tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:09 pm Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/07/16

Appendix to Last:

I've been asked why not just ask Europa what loads they calculated, but I believe that is unfair since I am attempting to use another product. I don't want to steal anyone's time, just wondered if someone knew what product and model they were using, so I can go away and look up the specs. I also know pilots with other skillets especially those that involve their intellect, and a calculator, often like to home both with a challenging question, hence the issue of loads on the flaps at max extension speed.

Cheers.

Like I said though, I don't want to put anyone out too much, or steal their time. 



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		   On 8 Aug 2016, at 00:03, Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:

 

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 Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the 

 two Web Links listed below.  The .html file includes the Digest formatted 

 in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes 

 and Message Navigation.  The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version 

 of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor 

 such as Notepad or with a web browser. 

 

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     1. 04:23 PM - Electric Flaps Actuator name/model and Aerodynamic loads.  (Tony Renshaw)

 

 

 

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 Time: 04:23:12 PM PST US

 From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com>

 Subject: Electric Flaps Actuator name/model and Aerodynamic loads.

 

 I am wondering if anyone knows the manufacturer and model number please of

 the Europa supplied Linear Actuator? I have one but need to verify it can

 cope with the load of deploying the flaps up to maximum flap extension

 speed, and to that end, if I supply the area, does anyone have the smarts

 to be able to work out what the aerodynamic loads might be in lbs so I can

 assess whether what I have is suitable? Any help or guidance much

 appreciated.

 Regards

 Tony Renshaw

 

 

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:09 am Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/07/16

Tony

I believe the load on the flap operating lever is very low, the flap pivots are on the lift vector line, (not sure if i'm explaining this right?) so the load changes very little throughout the range of movement of the flap. Flying a well adjusted monowheel one notices that the flap can be placed anywhere in it's range and left floating. It won't move. The bungy is there to compensate for the weight of the undercarriage. 



Graham

 

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Appendix to Last:

I've been asked why not just ask Europa what loads they calculated, but I believe that is unfair since I am attempting to use another product. I don't want to steal anyone's time, just wondered if someone knew what product and model they were using, so I can go away and look up the specs. I also know pilots with other skillets especially those that involve their intellect, and a calculator, often like to home both with a challenging question, hence the issue of loads on the flaps at max extension speed.

Cheers.

Like I said though, I don't want to put anyone out too much, or steal their time. 



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		   On 8 Aug 2016, at 00:03, Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:

 

 *

 

 =========================

   Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive

 =========================

 

 Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the 

 two Web Links listed below.  The .html file includes the Digest formatted 

 in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes 

 and Message Navigation.  The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version 

 of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor 

 such as Notepad or with a web browser. 

 

 HTML Version:

 

    http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2016-08-07&Archive=Europa

 

 Text Version:

 

    http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter=2016-08-07&Archive=Europa

 

 

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   EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive

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                           Europa-List Digest Archive

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                     Total Messages Posted Sun 08/07/16: 1

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 Today's Message Index:

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     1. 04:23 PM - Electric Flaps Actuator name/model and Aerodynamic loads.  (Tony Renshaw)

 

 

 

 ________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________

 

 

 Time: 04:23:12 PM PST US

 From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com (tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com)>

 Subject: Electric Flaps Actuator name/model and Aerodynamic loads.

 

 I am wondering if anyone knows the manufacturer and model number please of

 the Europa supplied Linear Actuator? I have one but need to verify it can

 cope with the load of deploying the flaps up to maximum flap extension

 speed, and to that end, if I supply the area, does anyone have the smarts

 to be able to work out what the aerodynamic loads might be in lbs so I can

 assess whether what I have is suitable? Any help or guidance much

 appreciated.

 Regards

 Tony Renshaw

 

 

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JonathanMilbank

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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/07/16

About 3 years ago my aircraft got converted from mono to tri-gear and I elected to keep things simple by retaining the lever for manual flap operation. No electric motor has been added, to keep weight down.



I agree that the loads involved in moving the flaps seem reasonably constant throughout the travel of the lever, perhaps becoming slightly heavier towards the fully extended position. Just a subjective opinion.

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