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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:06 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is? 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50

tigeryak18t

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:11 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Light or de icing?



2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair.Â 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is?Â 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50

 

	




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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:12 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectorsÂ 27v

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair.Â 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is?Â 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50

 

	




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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:38 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.

Dennis

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 Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:11 AM

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Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors 27v

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is? 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:45 am Post subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Yes, indeed internal heating for the clock.



    Vic

jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:51 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Yes, that seems a very plausible explanation. 

Anyway, as far as I know, not used on the 50 (not on mine for certain) although we also have a pitot heater.

Jan

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Date:  Tuesday 4 October 2016 at 13:37

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Subject:  Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors



If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.

Dennis



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Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors 27v

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is? 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50



	




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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:54 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

It was for heating the clock to maintain a constant temperature so that the clock was more accurate George Coy



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On Oct 4, 2016, at 7:10 AM, Didier Blouzard <didier.blouzard(at)gmail.com (didier.blouzard(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  Light or de icing?



2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is? 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50

 

	




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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:13 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Jan you must realize that the Russians pretty much use that clock and everything that flies from your  Yak 50 to spacecraft so I did a lot of different duties. Being electrically heated was critical and some of those duties George



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On Oct 4, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)> wrote:

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		  Yes, that seems a very plausible explanation. 

Anyway, as far as I know, not used on the 50 (not on mine for certain) although we also have a pitot heater.

Jan

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Date:  Tuesday 4 October 2016 at 13:37

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Subject:  Re: Yak-List: Russian clock with electrical connectors



If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.

Dennis



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 Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:11 AM

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Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors 27v

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is? 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50



	




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Richard.goode(at)russiana
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:13 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Yes, that is absolutely correct. What puzzles me is that although beautifully made, these clocks are not that accurate, and, given that, I wonder whether keeping them warm makes any significant difference!

 

Richard Goode

 

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Subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors

 

If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.



Dennis



 

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Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors 

27v

 

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>: 	  Quote: 	
		  

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 



Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).



This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.



Does anyone know what the purpose is? 



 



Regards,



 



Jan



Yak 50



	




 



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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:14 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Thanks, that also explains why it’s not necessary on a Yak 50.

Jan

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It was for heating the clock to maintain a constant temperature so that the clock was more accurate George Coy



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On Oct 4, 2016, at 7:10 AM, Didier Blouzard <didier.blouzard(at)gmail.com (didier.blouzard(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Light or de icing?



2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>:

 	  Quote: 	
		  I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is? 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50



	




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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:42 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Gents, while we're on the topic, I've never used my CJ6's Soviet clock all that much. I'm wondering what the red button/knob on the left does? Photo attached. (I see that depressing it flips a red flag to white in the top dial...) The silver knob on right is for on/off, but needed for winding by any chance? Or draws its power from the main a/c bus?



Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on the clock's functions? 

Thanks-Â  



Justin/N280NC

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Richard Goode <Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:

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Yes, that is absolutely correct. What puzzles me is that although beautifully made, these clocks are not that accurate, and, given that, I wonder whether keeping them warm makes any significant difference!

Â 

Richard Goode

Â 

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese

Sent: 04 October 2016 12:38

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Â 

If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.Â  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.



Dennis



Â 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:11 AM

Subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors



Â 

Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectorsÂ 

27v

Â 

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>: 	  Quote: 	
		  

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair.Â 



Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).



This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.



Does anyone know what the purpose is?Â 



Â 



Regards,



Â 



Jan



Yak 50



	




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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:35 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

I have the notice.

Left is total flight time and setting the time, right is leg time and

stopping the watch.



2016-10-04 14:42 GMT+02:00 Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com>:



[quote] Gents, while we're on the topic, I've never used my CJ6's Soviet clock all

 that much. I'm wondering what the red button/knob on the left does? Photo

 attached. (I see that depressing it flips a red flag to white in the top

 dial...) The silver knob on right is for on/off, but needed for winding by

 any chance? Or draws its power from the main a/c bus?



 Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on the clock's functions?



 Thanks-



 Justin/N280NC



 On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Richard Goode <Richard.goode(at)russianaeros

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:40 am Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

This might help youâ€¦.

Cheers

Chris

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		  On 5/10/2016, at 1:42 AM, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Gents, while we're on the topic, I've never used my CJ6's Soviet clock all that much. I'm wondering what the red button/knob on the left does? Photo attached. (I see that depressing it flips a red flag to white in the top dial...) The silver knob on right is for on/off, but needed for winding by any chance? Or draws its power from the main a/c bus?Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on the clock's functions? 

Thanks-  Justin/N280NC

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Richard Goode <Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

Yes, that is absolutely correct. What puzzles me is that although beautifully made, these clocks are not that accurate, and, given that, I wonder whether keeping them warm makes any significant difference!

 

Richard Goode

 

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of A. Dennis SavareseSent: 04 October 2016 12:38To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors

 

If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.



Dennis



 

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Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors 

27v

 

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>: 	  Quote: 	
		  

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 



Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).



This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.



Does anyone know what the purpose is? 



 



Regards,



 



Jan



Yak 50



	






 



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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:28 pm Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

clock instructions

  

 On 5/10/2016 6:33 AM, Didier Blouzard wrote:

 

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		   I have the notice. Left is total flight time and setting the time, right is leg time and stopping the watch.

 

 

 2016-10-04 14:42 GMT+02:00 Justin Drafts  <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)>:

  	  Quote: 	
		    Gents, while we're on the topic, I've never used my CJ6's Soviet clock all that much. I'm wondering what the red button/knob on the left does? Photo attached. (I see that depressing it flips a red flag to white in the top dial...) The silver knob on right  is for on/off, but needed for winding by any chance? Or draws its power from the main a/c bus?

 

 Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on the clock's functions? 

 

 

 Thanks-  

 

 Justin/N280NC

 

   

 On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Richard Goode  <Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		     

Yes, that is absolutely correct. What puzzles me is that although beautifully made, these clocks are not that accurate, and, given that, I wonder whether keeping  them warm makes any significant difference! 

  

Richard Goode 

    

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 Subject: Re: Yak-List: Russian clock with electrical connectors 

 

  

    

If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal  clock heater was turned on as well. 

  

Dennis 

  

  

        

 

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Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors   

27v 

 

  

   

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>:  	  Quote: 	
		     

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair.  

  

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock). 

  

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50. 

  

Does anyone know what the purpose is?  

  

  

  

Regards, 

  

  

  

Jan 

  

Yak 50 

 

 	
 

 



    

  

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:24 pm Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Yes thanks gents, all VERY helpful info -



Justin

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		  This might help youâ€¦.



Cheers

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		  On 5/10/2016, at 1:42 AM, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Gents, while we're on the topic, I've never used my CJ6's Soviet clock all that much. I'm wondering what the red button/knob on the left does? Photo attached. (I see that depressing it flips a red flag to white in the top dial...) The silver knob on right is for on/off, but needed for winding by any chance? Or draws its power from the main a/c bus?



Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on the clock's functions?Â 

Thanks-Â Â 



Justin/N280NC

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Richard GoodeÂ <Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)>Â wrote:

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Yes, that is absolutely correct. What puzzles me is that although beautifully made, these clocks are not that accurate, and, given that, I wonder whether keeping them warm makes any significant difference!

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Richard Goode

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If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.Â  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.



Dennis



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Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectorsÂ 

27v

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2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>: 	  Quote: 	
		  

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair.Â 



Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).



This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.



Does anyone know what the purpose is?Â 



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Jan



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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:08 pm Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Very interesting indeed, thanks to all!

Jan

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Date:  Wednesday 5 October 2016 at 03:23

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Yes thanks gents, all VERY helpful info -

Justin

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Chris & Diane Burton <cdoburton(at)gmail.com (cdoburton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  This might help you….

Cheers

Chris

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		  On 5/10/2016, at 1:42 AM, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Gents, while we're on the topic, I've never used my CJ6's Soviet clock all that much. I'm wondering what the red button/knob on the left does? Photo attached. (I see that depressing it flips a red flag to white in the top dial...) The silver knob on right is for on/off, but needed for winding by any chance? Or draws its power from the main a/c bus?

Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on the clock's functions? 

Thanks-  

Justin/N280NC

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Richard Goode <Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:

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Yes, that is absolutely correct. What puzzles me is that although beautifully made, these clocks are not that accurate, and, given that, I wonder whether keeping them warm makes any significant difference!

Richard Goode

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese

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If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.

Dennis

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Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors 

27v

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>: 	  Quote: 	

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 

Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).

This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.

Does anyone know what the purpose is? 

Regards,

Jan

Yak 50

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:38 pm Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

I am glad to be able to assist.  

I wish I could claim credit for the picture, but I got it off the internet somewhere.  



I have one of these clocks sitting on my desk and while I am a typical male who can usually stuff it up without printed help, I had to hunt down some instructions on how to drive the thing.  



If the clock is inaccurate, you can also adjust the â€˜speedâ€™ by twiddling a screw on the rear.



Chris 	  Quote: 	
		  On 5/10/2016, at 7:07 PM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)> wrote:

Very interesting indeed, thanks to all!



Jan



From:  <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)> on behalf of Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)>Reply-To:  "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>Date:  Wednesday 5 October 2016 at 03:23To:  "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>Subject:  Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors



Yes thanks gents, all VERY helpful info -

Justin



On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Chris & Diane Burton <cdoburton(at)gmail.com (cdoburton(at)gmail.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  This might help youâ€¦.

Cheers

Chris

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		  On 5/10/2016, at 1:42 AM, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Gents, while we're on the topic, I've never used my CJ6's Soviet clock all that much. I'm wondering what the red button/knob on the left does? Photo attached. (I see that depressing it flips a red flag to white in the top dial...) The silver knob on right is for on/off, but needed for winding by any chance? Or draws its power from the main a/c bus?Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on the clock's functions? 

Thanks-  Justin/N280NC

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Richard Goode <Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

Yes, that is absolutely correct. What puzzles me is that although beautifully made, these clocks are not that accurate, and, given that, I wonder whether keeping them warm makes any significant difference!

 

Richard Goode

 

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of A. Dennis SavareseSent: 04 October 2016 12:38To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors

 

If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.



Dennis



 

From: Didier Blouzard <didier.blouzard(at)gmail.com (didier.blouzard(at)gmail.com)>To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:11 AMSubject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors



 

Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors 

27v

 

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>: 	  Quote: 	
		  

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 



Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).



This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.



Does anyone know what the purpose is? 



 



Regards,



 



Jan



Yak 50



	






 



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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:54 pm Post subject: Russian clock with electrical connectors

I am running mine, after repair, on my desk. 

After 24 hours it is still indicates the correct time (to the minute, at least).

So IMHO, it’s more than good enough for use in a 50 or 52. 

Though I can imagine that the G-forces while flying or from aerobatics might influence the accuracy.

Jan 





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I am glad to be able to assist.  

I wish I could claim credit for the picture, but I got it off the internet somewhere.  



I have one of these clocks sitting on my desk and while I am a typical male who can usually stuff it up without printed help, I had to hunt down some instructions on how to drive the thing.  



If the clock is inaccurate, you can also adjust the ‘speed’ by twiddling a screw on the rear.



Chris 	  Quote: 	
		  On 5/10/2016, at 7:07 PM, Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)> wrote:

Very interesting indeed, thanks to all!



Jan



From:  <owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)> on behalf of Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)>Reply-To:  "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>Date:  Wednesday 5 October 2016 at 03:23To:  "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>Subject:  Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors



Yes thanks gents, all VERY helpful info -

Justin



On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Chris & Diane Burton <cdoburton(at)gmail.com (cdoburton(at)gmail.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  This might help you….

Cheers

Chris

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		  On 5/10/2016, at 1:42 AM, Justin Drafts <draftsjust417(at)gmail.com (draftsjust417(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Gents, while we're on the topic, I've never used my CJ6's Soviet clock all that much. I'm wondering what the red button/knob on the left does? Photo attached. (I see that depressing it flips a red flag to white in the top dial...) The silver knob on right is for on/off, but needed for winding by any chance? Or draws its power from the main a/c bus?Can anyone give me a quick tutorial on the clock's functions? 

Thanks-  Justin/N280NC

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Richard Goode <Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (Richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

Yes, that is absolutely correct. What puzzles me is that although beautifully made, these clocks are not that accurate, and, given that, I wonder whether keeping them warm makes any significant difference!

 

Richard Goode

 

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of A. Dennis SavareseSent: 04 October 2016 12:38To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors

 

If I remember correctly, the Russian clocks were connected to the pitot heat circuit.  Thus if pitot heat was turned on, the internal clock heater was turned on as well.



Dennis



 

From: Didier Blouzard <didier.blouzard(at)gmail.com (didier.blouzard(at)gmail.com)>To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:11 AMSubject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors



 

Same clock is sitting on my desk in my boffice right in front of me, indeed two connectors 

27v

 

2016-10-04 13:05 GMT+02:00 Jan Mevis <jan.mevis(at)informavia.be (jan.mevis(at)informavia.be)>: 	  Quote: 	
		  

I had to remove the clock from my Yak 50 for repair. 



Then I noticed that it has two connectors for +27 v on the backside (as stated on the clock).



This is obviously not used on the Yak 50.



Does anyone know what the purpose is? 



 



Regards,



 



Jan



Yak 50



	






 



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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:01 am Post subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Had my -52 on static display at the Royal Navy Yeovilton Airday this year parked up near a Polish Navy PZL M28 Skytruck and a MIG 15 ... despite a 40+ year range of production the one instrument we all had in common was the ÐÐ§Ð¡-1 clock!



For a regime that specialises in one-size-fits-all there are surprisingly two variants (usually marked on the dial);



ÐÐ§Ð¡-1 = second hand operates with clock, stopwatch sub-dial 60 minutes



ÐÐ§Ð¡-1M = second hand operates with stopwatch, stopwatch sub-dial 30 minutes

And for those interested here's the bullet form of the clock instructions;



- performs a conventional Clock function as well as a Stopwatch and an Hour Recorder



- outer scale is the main Clock & single sweep second hand



- upper sub-dial is the Hour Recorder (HR) and the lower sub-dial is the Stopwatch function



- two knobs are mounted to the outer bezel;



Left function knob

- normal position (IN) winds the mechanism

- pull OUT & rotate hands to set time on Clock

- push IN to change the â€˜setting selectionâ€™ â€“ interlink between Clock & Hour Recorder

- each push moves a flag in the Hour Recorder dial - alternates Red, Red / White and White

- corresponds to â€˜Set Clock & HRâ€™, â€˜Set Clock, Stop HRâ€™ & â€˜Set Clock, Reset HRâ€™



Right function knob

- turn counter-clockwise to run mechanism, clockwise to stop

- push knob to cycle Stopwatch function: Start â€“ Stop â€“ Reset



Using the Chronograph

- Right knob turn clockwise - ensure mechanism stopped

- Left knob - wind mechanism spring until it begins to tighten

- Left knob: push knob IN until White flag shows, pull OUT to set the correct time & push IN



Red Flag : the White flag is replaced with a Red flag indicating system fully engaged

- turn Right knob counter-clockwise to run the Clock and the Hour Recorder

- Stopwatch functions (push right knob IN) available



Red / White Flag : appears on second push IN of Left knob

- Hour Recorder stopped, main clock continues

- Stopwatch functions still available



White Flag : appears on third push IN of Left knob

- Hour Recorder reset, main clock continues

- Stopwatch functions still available



Rob R.

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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Russian clock with electrical connectors

Forgot got to add to my last post ...



A full spring wind gives at least 3 days operation and, with a diurnal variation of temperature (20 Â± 5) Â°C, the timekeeping is Â± 20 s per day.



The reliability is quoted at 94% over 2000 hours between 20 Â± 5 Â°C, which is only about 3 months continuous use? So not sure how well made it really is, even allowing for intermittent usage in a high vibration environment.



*** Pre-1970 production probably had the hands and dial painted in Radium 226, that has a half-life of 1600 years! ***



If you have a letter 'B' on the right side of the dial the hands & numerals are painted in harmless phosphorescent paint and a 'K' signifies just white paint was used.



Rob R.

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