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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:29 am Post subject: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine |
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Guys
Since it is not in the Van's RV-10 manual, does anybody have a drawing that shows the hardware used to install the 4 engine mount bosses to the Lyco 540 engine?
I suppose that I have to use 16 nuts + 16 flat washers + 16 star washers, but I want to be sure which, and in what order.
On the other hand, what is to tool to use to tighten the 2 inner nuts of each of the 4 mount bosses?
Specially the ones on the engine bottom?
Best
Carlos
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:51 pm Post subject: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine |
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Are you talking about the fittings on the engine? Those would be in the engine overhaul manual.
If you are talking about bolting the engine to the engine mount with the shock disks between the two, that is in the plans.
Firewall forward section 1 page 5.
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
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Guys
Since it is not in the Van's RV-10 manual, does anybody have a drawing that shows the hardware used to install the 4 engine mount bosses to the Lyco 540 engine?
I suppose that I have to use 16 nuts + 16 flat washers + 16 star washers, but I want to be sure which, and in what order.
On the other hand, what is to tool to use to tighten the 2 inner nuts of each of the 4 mount bosses?
Specially the ones on the engine bottom?
Best
Carlos
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine |
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Hi Kelly
I am talking about the fittings on the engine, each with 4 nuts, and I don't have the engine overhaul manual...
Thanks
Carlos
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Quote: | Are you talking about the fittings on the engine? Those would be in the engine overhaul manual.
If you are talking about bolting the engine to the engine mount with the shock disks between the two, that is in the plans.
Firewall forward section 1 page 5.
-sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
Guys
Since it is not in the Van's RV-10 manual, does anybody have a drawing that shows the hardware used to install the 4 engine mount bosses to the Lyco 540 engine?
I suppose that I have to use 16 nuts + 16 flat washers + 16 star washers, but I want to be sure which, and in what order.
On the other hand, what is to tool to use to tighten the 2 inner nuts of each of the 4 mount bosses?
Specially the ones on the engine bottom?
Best
Carlos
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine |
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I'm guessing there's a problem in translation .....
Sounds like his question is about the ears that the isolation mounts attach to.
I forget whether there are studs or bolts there.
Linn
On 11/28/2016 6:37 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
Quote: | Hi Kelly
I am talking about the fittings on the engine, each with 4 nuts, and I don't have the engine overhaul manual...
Thanks
Carlos
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No dia 28/11/2016, às 22:48, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> escreveu:
Quote: | Are you talking about the fittings on the engine? Those would be in the engine overhaul manual.
If you are talking about bolting the engine to the engine mount with the shock disks between the two, that is in the plans.
Firewall forward section 1 page 5.
-sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
Guys
Since it is not in the Van's RV-10 manual, does anybody have a drawing that shows the hardware used to install the 4 engine mount bosses to the Lyco 540 engine?
I suppose that I have to use 16 nuts + 16 flat washers + 16 star washers, but I want to be sure which, and in what order.
On the other hand, what is to tool to use to tighten the 2 inner nuts of each of the 4 mount bosses?
Specially the ones on the engine bottom?
Best
Carlos
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:02 pm Post subject: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine |
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That’s right, I am talking about the “ears” that the isolation rubber mounts attach to.
Each of these 4 “ears” are attached to the engine (which has 4 studs) with 4 nuts and washers, and that’s what I don’t know the order.
I suppose it’s first the flat washer, then the star washer, then the nut …. Right?
Carlos
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Assunto: Re: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine
I'm guessing there's a problem in translation .....
Sounds like his question is about the ears that the isolation mounts attach to.
I forget whether there are studs or bolts there.
Linn
On 11/28/2016 6:37 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
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Hi Kelly
I am talking about the fittings on the engine, each with 4 nuts, and I don't have the engine overhaul manual...
Thanks
Carlos
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No dia 28/11/2016, às 22:48, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> escreveu:
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Are you talking about the fittings on the engine? Those would be in the engine overhaul manual.
If you are talking about bolting the engine to the engine mount with the shock disks between the two, that is in the plans.
Firewall forward section 1 page 5.
-sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote: Quote: |
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Guys
Since it is not in the Van's RV-10 manual, does anybody have a drawing that shows the hardware used to install the 4 engine mount bosses to the Lyco 540 engine?
I suppose that I have to use 16 nuts + 16 flat washers + 16 star washers, but I want to be sure which, and in what order.
On the other hand, what is to tool to use to tighten the 2 inner nuts of each of the 4 mount bosses?
Specially the ones on the engine bottom?
Best
Carlos
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine |
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Hey Carlos,
I've searched the manual, no pictures of the "ear mounts", but basically "yes" always install lock washers next to the nut. The purpose of the lock washer is to grab the nut to keep it from backing off. Hope that addresses your issue. Later, - Lew
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:57 pm Post subject: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine |
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I just took mine off today to attach a better ground path to the block. Mine only had 2 studs per ear.
I need to check the torque in the manual to confirm it's 100% correct, but I torqued the nuts to 15.5 lbs per Vans Section 5 torque specs.
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On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
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That’s right, I am talking about the “ears” that the isolation rubber mounts attach to.
Each of these 4 “ears” are attached to the engine (which has 4 studs) with 4 nuts and washers, and that’s what I don’t know the order.
I suppose it’s first the flat washer, then the star washer, then the nut …. Right?
Carlos
De: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] Em nome de Linn Walters
Enviada: Monday, November 28, 2016 11:47 PM
Para: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Assunto: Re: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine
I'm guessing there's a problem in translation .....
Sounds like his question is about the ears that the isolation mounts attach to.
I forget whether there are studs or bolts there.
Linn
On 11/28/2016 6:37 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
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Hi Kelly
I am talking about the fittings on the engine, each with 4 nuts, and I don't have the engine overhaul manual...
Thanks
Carlos
Enviado do meu iPhone
No dia 28/11/2016, às 22:48, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> escreveu:
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Are you talking about the fittings on the engine? Those would be in the engine overhaul manual.
If you are talking about bolting the engine to the engine mount with the shock disks between the two, that is in the plans.
Firewall forward section 1 page 5.
-sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote: Quote: |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
Guys
Since it is not in the Van's RV-10 manual, does anybody have a drawing that shows the hardware used to install the 4 engine mount bosses to the Lyco 540 engine?
I suppose that I have to use 16 nuts + 16 flat washers + 16 star washers, but I want to be sure which, and in what order.
On the other hand, what is to tool to use to tighten the 2 inner nuts of each of the 4 mount bosses?
Specially the ones on the engine bottom?
Best
Carlos
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Quote: | On Nov 28, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Lew Gallagher <lewgall(at)charter.net> wrote:
Hey Carlos,
I've searched the manual, no pictures of the "ear mounts", but basically "yes" always install lock washers next to the nut. The purpose of the lock washer is to grab the nut to keep it from backing off. Hope that addresses your issue. Later, - Lew
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Hey Carlos,
Jesse's diagram is boss! Here's a picture from Tim's build. Later, - Lew
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:01 pm Post subject: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine |
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I got back to the house tonight where I can see the Lycoming overhaul manual. The correct torque for the 3/8" bolt is 300 in/lb.
My 'ears' only have 2 studs to put nuts on and they're 3/8. If you've got 4 studs, then I'm not sure what yours are. So here's the entire torque limit chart in the manual if yours are different.
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com (philperry9(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote: | I just took mine off today to attach a better ground path to the block. Mine only had 2 studs per ear.
I need to check the torque in the manual to confirm it's 100% correct, but I torqued the nuts to 15.5 lbs per Vans Section 5 torque specs.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 28, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
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That’s right, I am talking about the “ears” that the isolation rubber mounts attach to.
Each of these 4 “ears” are attached to the engine (which has 4 studs) with 4 nuts and washers, and that’s what I don’t know the order.
I suppose it’s first the flat washer, then the star washer, then the nut …. Right?
Carlos
De: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] Em nome de Linn Walters
Enviada: Monday, November 28, 2016 11:47 PM
Para: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Assunto: Re: Installing engine mount bosses to the engine
I'm guessing there's a problem in translation .....
Sounds like his question is about the ears that the isolation mounts attach to.
I forget whether there are studs or bolts there.
Linn
On 11/28/2016 6:37 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
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Hi Kelly
I am talking about the fittings on the engine, each with 4 nuts, and I don't have the engine overhaul manual...
Thanks
Carlos
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No dia 28/11/2016, às 22:48, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> escreveu:
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Are you talking about the fittings on the engine? Those would be in the engine overhaul manual.
If you are talking about bolting the engine to the engine mount with the shock disks between the two, that is in the plans.
Firewall forward section 1 page 5.
-sent from the I-droid implanted in my forearm
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote: Quote: |
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Guys
Since it is not in the Van's RV-10 manual, does anybody have a drawing that shows the hardware used to install the 4 engine mount bosses to the Lyco 540 engine?
I suppose that I have to use 16 nuts + 16 flat washers + 16 star washers, but I want to be sure which, and in what order.
On the other hand, what is to tool to use to tighten the 2 inner nuts of each of the 4 mount bosses?
Specially the ones on the engine bottom?
Best
Carlos
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