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yakman285(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

Craig Payne

Clouddog

Joined: 02 Jun 2016
Posts: 119
Location: Lebanon, TN

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:33 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Craig, I've been doing it for years. So has 2 others that I know. No spillage, price of about $150 for two 12 volt Gel Cells, Lighter and why has it taken you so long???



On Jan 6, 2017 14:19, "Craig Payne" <yakman285(at)gmail.com (yakman285(at)gmail.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

Craig Payne

Ernie

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 513

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:34 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Craig,



I've been using the Oddesey AGM Batteries. Half the weight, half the cost. 

I used a pair of the PC545 I believe.

Ernie

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com (yakman285(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

Craig Payne

Ernie

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 513

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Forgot to provide link



http://www.odysseybattery.com/extreme_battery_specs.aspx



On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Ernest Martinez <erniel29(at)gmail.com (erniel29(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  Craig,



I've been using the Oddesey AGM Batteries. Half the weight, half the cost. 

I used a pair of the PC545 I believe.

Ernie

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com (yakman285(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

Craig Payne

jonboede(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Yes. Odyssey batteries are an excellent replacement. We use a pair of PC925s in most Soviet battery boxes. A couple of things:



1. You can get a nice cable made at most welding supply places to put the two batteries in series.



2. The batteries can be damaged above 14.7v volts. This means that the maximum for a pair is NOT 29.4v but more like 29v since the internal resistance in the two batteries will never be equal. They will last forever if you adjust your voltage regulator to that. 



3. Batterymart.com has the best prices and free shipping that we have found. Sealed batteries are shipped charged via UPS ground. 



4. There are a lot of different choices of sizes if you are working them into a box. You don't really need much smash in a CJ/Yak because you're not running an electric starter. Even the PC680 will do you fine. The PC925 is enough to run the starter/generator on an L-29 or Mi-2, so its serious overkill for your plane (although it would run the avionics all day if your generator died). 



Jon



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		   On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

 

 Craig Payne

pjashura

Joined: 19 May 2014
Posts: 15
Location: Elbert, CO

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:38 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Werker WKA12-18NB



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		   On Jan 6, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

 

 Craig Payne

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jlpartington(at)reagan.co
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:42 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Works for my CJs.  last longer too 

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dsavarese0812(at)bellsout
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:56 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Yes, most definitely.  Lots and lots installed that way.

Dennis

       From: Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com>

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After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

Craig Payne

hkgibby(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:48 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

2 Odysseys' PC545 in series; love them.

Hoot



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		   On Jan 6, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

 

 Craig Payne

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hkgibby(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:56 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

http://www.4wheelparts.com/stores/Store-Info.aspx?sNo=64

Have a store in Jax; can pick up a couple for you and have at Waycross if you want to save shipping.

Hoot



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On Jan 6, 2017, at 3:55 PM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

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		  Yes, most definitely.  Lots and lots installed that way.

Dennis



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After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

Craig Payne



 

 

  



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draftsjust417(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:21 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

2-cell plan is working great in my CJ... no issues in 5 years



Justin/N280NC

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com (yakman285(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

Craig Payne

Viperdoc

Joined: 19 Apr 2014
Posts: 484
Location: 08A

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:47 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Yep. Buy mine from Battery Source for about $132 for the pair. Chunk them after two-three years. 

Doc



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		   On Jan 6, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Craig Payne <yakman285(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series. The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

 

 Craig Payne

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wlannon(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:51 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Craig;

  

 I have settled on the Panasonic LCX1228P,  12V Valve regulated lead  acid.  28 Amp/Hrs.  Whole lot of overkill but will out last typical  Gill or Concord at least 3 lo 1.

   Fits nicely in the CJ battery box – see  pics.

 In customers CJ (NO battery minder and at least  twice inadvertently discharged –switch on)   Still strong at sale of  A/C after 9 years.

  

 On my CJ. going on 6 years, with a battery minder  (type recommended by Mark Bitterlich) I have not seen a no-load voltage less than 26.5.  With almost constant  de-sulphiding and trickle charge I would not be surprised if they lasted 20  years.

  

 Walt 

  

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   After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing  me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series.  The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

  

 Craig Payne





    	 		 			 				 			 		 		 			

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dougsappllc(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:16 pm Post subject: Battery replacement

Craig,This may interest you considering your past penchant for po-boy mods.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Turn-Spare-Pocket-Change-into-DIY-Batteries/



Keep us in the loop as to your success. )

Doug





On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Walter Lannon <wlannon(at)shaw.ca (wlannon(at)shaw.ca)> wrote:

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		      Craig;

  

 I have settled on the Panasonic LCX1228P,  12V Valve regulated lead  acid.  28 Amp/Hrs.  Whole lot of overkill but will out last typical  Gill or Concord at least 3 lo 1.

   Fits nicely in the CJ battery box – see  pics.

 In customers CJ (NO battery minder and at least  twice inadvertently discharged –switch on)   Still strong at sale of  A/C after 9 years.

  

 On my CJ. going on 6 years, with a battery minder  (type recommended by Mark Bitterlich) I have not seen a no-load voltage less than 26.5.  With almost constant  de-sulphiding and trickle charge I would not be surprised if they lasted 20  years.

  

 Walt 

  

  From: Craig Payne (yakman285(at)gmail.com) 

 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 12:15 PM

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   After 22 years of buying "Real"aircraft batteries, the ***Tards are wearing  me down with their price increases. I'm thinking about the two 12V in series.  The gell cell type. Anyone been this route?

  

 Craig Payne





 



   	 		 			 				 			 		 		 			

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