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JOHN TIPTON

Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 239
Location: Torquay - England

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:34 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

Dear Mr Dralle



Is anything being done about the non relevant emails emanating from 'Blueberry'



Regards: John

matronics(at)rtist.nl
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:25 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

It seems part of the Matronics subscriber list has been leaked or 

harvested a number of years ago, and this results in spam every now and 

then. I'm not getting any spam from Blueberry so it's not coming through 

the Matronics site itself. But I do get spam from other sources. As I 

use a unique email address for Matronics, I can tell that that address 

has been leaked or harvested at some point. Our addresses are now in 

spammer databases and there's very little you can do about it. Matt 

can't help, Bob can't help.



All you can do is use unique email addresses per subscription, and if 

the spam level becomes annoying for that address, just toss that email 

address and use a new one. I have my own domain, so it's just a matter 

of setting up a new alias.



Rob



On 1/7/2017 9:34 AM, JOHN TIPTON wrote:

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 Dear Mr Dralle



 Is anything being done about the non relevant emails emanating from 'Blueberry'



 Regards: John





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464823#464823

alec(at)alecmyers.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:48 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

Beg to differ, Rob. It's very recent - i've only been a subscriber for a month or two and I'm getting them.



And it's 99% certain it's all coming directly through the list server judging by the headers and signature. No spammer would bother spoofing all that information.



On Jan 7, 2017, at 04:22, Rob Turk <matronics(at)rtist.nl> wrote:






It seems part of the Matronics subscriber list has been leaked or harvested a number of years ago, and this results in spam every now and then. I'm not getting any spam from Blueberry so it's not coming through the Matronics site itself. But I do get spam from other sources. As I use a unique email address for Matronics, I can tell that that address has been leaked or harvested at some point. Our addresses are now in spammer databases and there's very little you can do about it. Matt can't help, Bob can't help.



All you can do is use unique email addresses per subscription, and if the spam level becomes annoying for that address, just toss that email address and use a new one. I have my own domain, so it's just a matter of setting up a new alias.



Rob



 	  Quote: 	
		   On 1/7/2017 9:34 AM, JOHN TIPTON wrote:

 

 

 Dear Mr Dralle

 

 Is anything being done about the non relevant emails emanating from 'Blueberry'

 

 Regards: John

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464823#464823

alec(at)alecmyers.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:50 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

In fact here's the archived spam on the list server website, as proof it's coming brought the server:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464821#464821



On Jan 7, 2017, at 06:45, Alec Myers <alec(at)alecmyers.com (alec(at)alecmyers.com)> wrote:

Beg to differ, Rob. It's very recent - i've only been a subscriber for a month or two and I'm getting them.



And it's 99% certain it's all coming directly through the list server judging by the headers and signature. No spammer would bother spoofing all that information.



On Jan 7, 2017, at 04:22, Rob Turk <matronics(at)rtist.nl (matronics(at)rtist.nl)> wrote:



--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Rob Turk <matronics(at)rtist.nl (matronics(at)rtist.nl)>



It seems part of the Matronics subscriber list has been leaked or harvested a number of years ago, and this results in spam every now and then. I'm not getting any spam from Blueberry so it's not coming through the Matronics site itself. But I do get spam from other sources. As I use a unique email address for Matronics, I can tell that that address has been leaked or harvested at some point. Our addresses are now in spammer databases and there's very little you can do about it. Matt can't help, Bob can't help.



All you can do is use unique email addresses per subscription, and if the spam level becomes annoying for that address, just toss that email address and use a new one. I have my own domain, so it's just a matter of setting up a new alias.



Rob



[quote]On 1/7/2017 9:34 AM, JOHN TIPTON wrote:

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "JOHN TIPTON" <jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com (jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com)>



Dear Mr Dralle



Is anything being done about the non relevant emails emanating from 'Blueberry'



Regards: John





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464823#464823





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matronics(at)rtist.nl
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:07 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

I guess my provider filters it as spam       then, as I have zero entries for Blueberry anywhere in my mails.

       

       On 1/7/2017 12:48 PM, Alec Myers wrote:

     

      	  Quote: 	
		                In fact here's the archived spam on the list server website,         as proof it's coming brought the server:

       http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464821#464821

       

         On Jan 7, 2017, at 06:45, Alec Myers <alec(at)alecmyers.com (alec(at)alecmyers.com)>         wrote:

         

       

       Beg to differ, Rob. It's very recent - i've only been a           subscriber for a month or two and I'm getting them.

         

         And it's 99% certain it's all coming directly through the           list server judging by the headers and signature. No spammer           would bother spoofing all that information.

JOHN TIPTON

Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 239
Location: Torquay - England

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:59 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

Hi Rob

Are you saying that when you view they 'aeroelectric list forum' you do not see the posts from 'blueberryjerry' either

John



Sent from my iPad



     ----x--O--x----

On 7 Jan 2017, at 01:04 pm, Rob Turk <matronics(at)rtist.nl (matronics(at)rtist.nl)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		                     I guess my provider filters it as spam       then, as I have zero entries for Blueberry anywhere in my mails.

       

       On 1/7/2017 12:48 PM, Alec Myers wrote:

     

      	  Quote: 	
		                In fact here's the archived spam on the list server website,         as proof it's coming brought the server:

       http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464821#464821

       

         On Jan 7, 2017, at 06:45, Alec Myers <alec(at)alecmyers.com (alec(at)alecmyers.com)>         wrote:

         

       

       Beg to differ, Rob. It's very recent - i've only been a           subscriber for a month or two and I'm getting them.

         

         And it's 99% certain it's all coming directly through the           list server judging by the headers and signature. No spammer           would bother spoofing all that information.

cluros(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:14 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

Same question about the courtesy car app spam. 



Sebastien



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Jan 7, 2017, at 00:34, JOHN TIPTON <jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Dear Mr Dralle

 

 Is anything being done about the non relevant emails emanating from 'Blueberry'

 

 Regards: John

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464823#464823

kboatright1(at)comcast.ne
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:25 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

I've been receiving those too, with Aeroelectric headers...



--

matronics(at)rtist.nl
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:37 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

Hi John,

       

       I never visit the forum online, I receive the emails in my inbox.       No trace of any blueberry or related sender there.

       

       Rob

       

       On 1/7/2017 3:26 PM, John Tipton wrote:

     

      	  Quote: 	
		                Hi Rob

       

       

       Are you saying that when you view they 'aeroelectric list         forum' you do not see the posts from 'blueberryjerry' either

       

       

       John

         

         Sent from my iPad         

         

              ----x--O--x----

       

       

         On 7 Jan 2017, at 01:04 pm, Rob Turk <matronics(at)rtist.nl (matronics(at)rtist.nl)>         wrote:

         

       

        	  Quote: 	
		                                 I guess my provider filters it as             spam then, as I have zero entries for Blueberry anywhere in             my mails.

             

             On 1/7/2017 12:48 PM, Alec Myers wrote:

           

            	  Quote: 	
		                            In fact here's the archived spam on the list server               website, as proof it's coming brought the server:

             http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464821#464821

             

               On Jan 7, 2017, at 06:45, Alec Myers <alec(at)alecmyers.com (alec(at)alecmyers.com)>               wrote:

               

             

             Beg to differ, Rob. It's very recent - i've only                 been a subscriber for a month or two and I'm getting                 them.

               

               And it's 99% certain it's all coming directly                 through the list server judging by the headers and                 signature. No spammer would bother spoofing all that                 information.

deej(at)deej.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:47 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

On 1/7/2017 12:33 PM, Rob Turk wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I never visit the forum online, I receive the emails in my inbox. No

 trace of any blueberry or related sender there.


	




Same here, but I am getting the emails.  You must have a local filter 

that is preventing them from showing up in your Inbox.  The spam is 

definitely going through the list.



do not archive



-Dj

skywagon

Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 184

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:05 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

. . . Same here..!  There were about 20 "blueberry" emails in my emails this 

morning that had the authenticated "aeroelectric-list" address.

    D



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Dave Saylor

Joined: 11 Jan 2015
Posts: 209
Location: GILROY, CA

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:28 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

I use gmail.  I think I saw one blueberry a few days ago.  Nothing since.



do not archive

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 11:01 AM, David Lloyd <skywagon(at)charter.net (skywagon(at)charter.net)> wrote:

[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Lloyd" <skywagon(at)charter.net (skywagon(at)charter.net)>

 

 . . . Same here..!  There were about 20 "blueberry" emails in my emails this morning that had the authenticated "aeroelectric-list" address.

    D

 

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_________________
--Dave
KWVI

ceengland7(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:43 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

Come on, guys. This stuff happens occasionally. A spammer signs up as a regular user, & sends a batch of emails to the list. As soon as Matt catches it, he'll block the new 'member' & it will be over, but I think I've gotten more emails from y'all *about* the spam, than the total number of spam emails from 'blueberry'. 



Give Matt a chance to do his thing. And BTW, did everyone who's complaining contribute during the fund raiser last fall? 

Charlie



On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 1:24 PM, David Saylor <saylor.dave(at)gmail.com (saylor.dave(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]I use gmail.  I think I saw one blueberry a few days ago.  Nothing since.



do not archive

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 11:01 AM, David Lloyd <skywagon(at)charter.net (skywagon(at)charter.net)> wrote:

[quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Lloyd" <skywagon(at)charter.net (skywagon(at)charter.net)>

 

 . . . Same here..!  There were about 20 "blueberry" emails in my emails this morning that had the authenticated "aeroelectric-list" address.

    D

 

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JOHN TIPTON

Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 239
Location: Torquay - England

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Author: Blueberry

So you think 'blueberryjerry' is a member, however if this was moderated more efficiently this would have been picked up sooner, i don't think the fund raising/charity thing has anything to do with it

ceengland7(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:23 pm Post subject: Author: Blueberry

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 2:47 PM, JOHN TIPTON <jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com (jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "JOHN TIPTON" <jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com (jmtipton(at)btopenworld.com)>

 

 So you think 'blueberryjerry' is a member, however if this was moderated more efficiently this would have been picked up sooner, i don't think the fund raising/charity thing has anything to do with it

	
 

I'll assume you're referring to my recent post, though I can't tell for sure since I get the list via email and if you don't quote at least part of the post you're responding to, none of us on the email server can tell who you're responding to.

My point is that if all you do is suck from the teat, you've no right to complain about what the cow eats. (In case you've never been outside the city limits, that's where milk actually comes from.)



The fund raiser isn't a charity. It's intended to help Matt cover his expenses running this, and a lot of other lists/forums. In case you haven't noticed, there's no advertising in these lists or the forums; not even for the products that Matt produces and sells.

If you think about it, a handful of spam emails is noteworthy only because of its rarity here. Kinda like the news media focusing on every a/c crash, when thousands of car crashes happen every day.

You can't post here without being a member. I can testify to that, because I've accidentally tried to post from one of my other email addresses in the past, and I just tested it again a few minutes ago.

See below for the response from Matt's server.

Charlie

quote:

 



Matronics Email Lists <bounces(at)matronics.com (bounces(at)matronics.com)>3:05 PM (7 minutes ago)



Reply



to me



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---      "Poster:   xxxxxxxxxxxx(my other email address)

---      "Subject:  test from non member address"

---

--- Your message was not posted to the AeroElectric-List because the

--- poster is not a member of any Email List on the Matronics Email

--- System.

---

--- Note that this check can be triggered in some cases where your

--- your message's From: address isn't an *exact* match to the email

--- address that is subscribed.  An example of this might be where

--- you are subscribed to a List as:

---

---      "joe(at)internet.com (joe(at)internet.com)"

---

--- but your email message's From: line shows your address as:

---

---      "joe(at)email.internet.com (joe(at)email.internet.com)"

---

--- While these may be functionally the same email address, there is

--- no way for the receiving email system to determine that they are

--- in fact actually the same address.

---

--- To ressolve this issue, please either change your email

--- applications's configuration so that your From: line matches the

--- email address you have subscribed as, or go to the Subscription

--- Web Site and unsubscribe your old email address an subscribe

--- your actual email address.

---

--- The Matronics Email List Subscription Web Page can be found at:

---

---      http://www.matronics.com/subscribe

---

---

--- Your message contained the following headers:

---

--- > From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

--- > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:05:41 -0600

--- > Subject: test from non member address

--- > To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)

---

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unquote

JOHN TIPTON

Joined: 17 Sep 2006
Posts: 239
Location: Torquay - England

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Author: Blueberry

So: 'blueberryjerry' is a member, but no-one can suspend/block his posts

ceengland7(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:02 pm Post subject: Author: Blueberry

On 1/7/2017 3:32 PM, JOHN TIPTON wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 So: 'blueberryjerry' is a member, but no-one can suspend/block his posts



Sure. You can. Just mark his emails as spam in your email client.

donjohnston

Joined: 13 Dec 2009
Posts: 231

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Author: Blueberry

Hey guys,



These messages are appearing on the forum as well.

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ceengland7(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:44 pm Post subject: Author: Blueberry

Please, just let it go.



If you must tell someone; tell Matt, to be sure he's seen it. The rest 

of us know that posts to the email list go to the forum, and also that 

posts to the forum go to the list.



We've gotten more spam from legit list members the last couple of days, 

than from the spammer. 



Charlie



On 1/7/2017 9:17 PM, donjohnston wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hey guys,



 These messages are appearing on the forum as well.

trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 2:57 am Post subject: Author: Blueberry

Hello Charlie

 	  Quote: 	
		  From the way you are bashing John and other people who are complaining about the spam, it seems you are defending the spammer himself.

They are just asking for Matt to take care of this spam, we all recognise the utility of this list and Matt's work.

Like you recommend to others, just let it go.

Hit the delete key not only when you receive the spam but also when you receive the complaints about the spam.

End of rant!

Let's talk about Electrics

Cheers

Carlos 

Enviado do meu iPhone

No dia 08/01/2017, às 03:42, Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> escreveu:

 	  Quote: 	

 Please, just let it go.

 If you must tell someone; tell Matt, to be sure he's seen it. The rest of us know that posts to the email list go to the forum, and also that posts to the forum go to the list.

 We've gotten more spam from legit list members the last couple of days, than from the spammer. 

 Charlie

> On 1/7/2017 9:17 PM, donjohnston wrote:

> 

> 

> Hey guys,

> 

> These messages are appearing on the forum as well.

> 

>

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