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 Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:39 am Post subject: Painting the Instrument Module |
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Hi All,
I'm looking to paint my new instrument module in the next weeks. It's new, so it currently got the "Europa Factory Gray" gelcoat.
I'm looking for advice/suggestions.
My thoughts are to go for a matt finish, to reduce reflection, and I am thinking about a "Boeing Beige" in terms of the colour.
Can anyone advise, or offer experiences, as to what is the best colour/texture for minimising reflections, but also is there any "gotchas" when painting on top of the gelcoat... the last thing I want is for it to peel straight off 
Best
Jon
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Richard Wheelwright
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Painting the Instrument Module |
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I Painted with Matt Black spray can from local car shop. First dull the gelcoat add primer and matt top to Finnish. Very cheep and easy to repair if you scratch it. 4 years and it still looks good.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:56 pm Post subject: Painting the Instrument Module |
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Jon, Nextel produces a highly durable matt finish and has often been used in this context. It is toxic, so either needs professional spraying or for you to,have the right breahing kit. Whatever finish you choose the base gel coat must be sanded down to a perfect matt finish before painting.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2017-02-09 19:39, italianjon wrote: | Quote: | | Quote: | --> Europa-List message posted by: "italianjon" <jon.catilli(at)gmail.com (jon.catilli(at)gmail.com)>
Hi All,
I'm looking to paint my new instrument module in the next weeks. It's new, so it currently got the "Europa Factory Gray" gelcoat.
I'm looking for advice/suggestions.
My thoughts are to go for a matt finish, to reduce reflection, and I am thinking about a "Boeing Beige" in terms of the colour.
Can anyone advise, or offer experiences, as to what is the best colour/texture for minimising reflections, but also is there any "gotchas" when painting on top of the gelcoat... the last thing I want is for it to peel straight off [Laughing]
Best
Jon
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italianjon
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Painting the Instrument Module |
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How is the black with temperatures? I'm wondering if it will soak up the heat too quickly? However, your information that a matt car paint will adhere and not peel is reassuring. Can you clarify what you mean by "matt top"; are you suggesting a further layer on top of the matt paint? or just primer and then matt layer?
I don't have the right breathing kit (well I assume I don't - I have a passive filter nose/mouth mask; but a view at the Nextel page suggests it very professional, therefore I imagine an air supplied suit would be what's called for while using that) Also I'm based in Germany, and one off jobs like that, from professionals can be prohibitively expensive. I'm tending towards a solution that I can do in the home workshop.
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danny shepherd
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:37 pm Post subject: Painting the Instrument Module |
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Hi I endorse what David says. I had my panel nexteled in 2006. still looks good. I attached a pic.
Danny. G-C.E.RI.
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Jon, Nextel produces a highly durable matt finish and has often been used in this context. It is toxic, so either needs professional spraying or for you to,have the right breahing kit. Whatever finish you choose the base gel coat must be sanded down to a perfect matt finish before painting.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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Hi All,
I'm looking to paint my new instrument module in the next weeks. It's new, so it currently got the "Europa Factory Gray" gelcoat.
I'm looking for advice/suggestions.
My thoughts are to go for a matt finish, to reduce reflection, and I am thinking about a "Boeing Beige" in terms of the colour.
Can anyone advise, or offer experiences, as to what is the best colour/texture for minimising reflections, but also is there any "gotchas" when painting on top of the gelcoat... the last thing I want is for it to peel straight off [Laughing]
Best
Jon
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Duncan McFadyean
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:13 am Post subject: Painting the Instrument Module |
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I've tried a few colours and textures:
Cream colour Nextel - disaster
Dark maroon colour carpet to temporarily cover over the above. Better but not that good.
Semi matt (it was mixed to be matt, plus a 'bumper' texturizer) dark grey. Just about tolerable but not perfect.
I wouldn't redo this in anything but matt black, Nextel or 2K (plus the texturizer for appearance).
On a sunny day it gets hot and the polyester resin in the panel construction can be smelled. It hasn't distorted, but needs ventilation anyway (Europas like to cook avionics).
BTW, if you use Nextel then it can be primed (wet on wet) with any similarly-coloured 2K paint for a bond that won't shift, there's no need for the Nextel primer.
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Hi All,
I'm looking to paint my new instrument module in the next weeks. It's new, so it currently got the "Europa Factory Gray" gelcoat.
I'm looking for advice/suggestions.
My thoughts are to go for a matt finish, to reduce reflection, and I am thinking about a "Boeing Beige" in terms of the colour.
Can anyone advise, or offer experiences, as to what is the best colour/texture for minimising reflections, but also is there any "gotchas" when painting on top of the gelcoat... the last thing I want is for it to peel straight off [Laughing]
Best
Jon
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I used a grey "hammered" finish from a spray can. I like the look of the "hammered" finish as it gives the panel some depth. Like others have said, sand the gel coat prior to priming and application of the top coat. If you are concerned about reflections you can apply a clear satin finish over the top coat. The finish has held up very well over the past 14 years.
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Richard Wheelwright
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Painting the Instrument Module |
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Like Erich Using just off the self paint from local car shop works As a earlier in this posting. Sand the shine off the gray gel coat first. Then look for hollows under the the gray gel coat by using a hard point such as the edge of a flat screwdriver, pushing it hard against all the edges and you will find the hollows underneath. Fill and Sand. Spray with a can of under coat, then 2 coats of Matt couler top coat of your choosing. I used Black and have never had any problems with over heating here in the UK but I try not to leave the aircraft in direct sunlight for a long time.
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italianjon
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Painting the Instrument Module |
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All,
Thanks for the info, I will take all the comments into consideration before deciding which way to ultimately go.
Cheers
Jon
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