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billhuntersemail(at)gmail
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: CS-02 = POS

The Grand Rapids CS-02 is a POS!!!

 

I bought one and while wiring it up it fell apart.  The wires snap onto the ring with a plastic clip and this clip is VERY fragile.  

 

Grand Rapids replaced it for free and the second one fell apart during the assembly so I will not go that route again.

 

Can someone please give me a suggestion for a ring type current sensor that I can use in lieu of the GS-02?

 

..

 

Cheers!!!

 

Bill  Hunter

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: CS-02 = POS

Been there, done that, didn't get a t-shirt.



The issue with these is very easy to fix (if you want to). Here's what I found out happened:



See how pretty the pins are?  The wires are supposed to be soldered to those pins.  But the guy they had assembling these was just stripping the wires, laying them next to the pins, sliding the heat shrink tubing down and then heating it up. 



So all I did was solder the wires directly to the pins and cover with heat shrink.



Been working great for the past six months.

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Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:40 pm Post subject: CS-02 = POS

Thanks Don... my soldering skills + very small wires = POS.. so I better think of something else.  

Thanks,  

Bill Hunter  On May 17, 2017 1:34 PM, "donjohnston" <don(at)velocity-xl.com (don(at)velocity-xl.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
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 Been there, done that, didn't get a t-shirt.

 

 The issue with these is very easy to fix (if you want to). Here's what I found out happened:

 

 See how pretty the pins are?Â  The wires are supposed to be soldered to those pins.Â  But the guy they had assembling these was just stripping the wires, laying them next to the pins, sliding the heat shrink tubing down and then heating it up.

 

 So all I did was solder the wires directly to the pins and cover with heat shrink.

 

 Been working great for the past six months.

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=469406#469406

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 5:13 am Post subject: CS-02 = POS

At 10:52 AM 5/17/2017, you wrote:

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		   The Grand Rapids CS-02 is a POS!!!

  

 I bought one and while wiring it up it fell apart.  The wires snap onto the ring with a plastic clip and this clip is VERY fragile.  

  

 Grand Rapids replaced it for free and the second one fell apart during the assembly so I will not go that route again.

  

 Can someone please give me a suggestion for a ring type current sensor that I can use in lieu of the GS-02? 	


   The sensor itself is okay, it's the choice of

   connectors. Those are not designed for life

   under the hood . . .



   I used them INSIDE totally enclosed appliances

   and even then, they're secured mechanically

   against vibration induced disconnect.



   I designed that line of sensors into B&C's 

   standby alternator controller decades ago and

   it has performed well.



   But you do need to solder the leads on . . . and

   Grand Rapids would do well by their customers

   to rethink their choice of attachment. B&C ships

   the sensor with lead wires already installed.



 

 

   Bob . . .

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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 6:53 am Post subject: CS-02 = POS

Bob,

 

When you say “B&C ships the sensor with lead wires already installed” are you saying that B&C sells a product like the CS-02?  I looked on their website but cannot find it.

 

Also, do you know what the metal terminal that snaps into the plug on the L60 alternator is called?  B&C has EXCELLENT customer service and sent me some replacements for FREE and that is exceptionally cool however I need to by some more of these connectors for car projects I have going on however the support guy did not know the product name of the terminal.

 

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THANKS!!!

 

Bill  Hunter

 

 

 



 

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At 10:52 AM 5/17/2017, you wrote:



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The Grand Rapids CS-02 is a POS!!!

 

I bought one and while wiring it up it fell apart.  The wires snap onto the ring with a plastic clip and this clip is VERY fragile.  

 

Grand Rapids replaced it for free and the second one fell apart during the assembly so I will not go that route again.

 

Can someone please give me a suggestion for a ring type current sensor that I can use in lieu of the GS-02? 	




  The sensor itself is okay, it's the choice of

  connectors. Those are not designed for life

  under the hood . . .



  I used them INSIDE totally enclosed appliances

  and even then, they're secured mechanically

  against vibration induced disconnect.



  I designed that line of sensors into B&C's 

  standby alternator controller decades ago and

  it has performed well.



  But you do need to solder the leads on . . . and

  Grand Rapids would do well by their customers

  to rethink their choice of attachment. B&C ships

  the sensor with lead wires already installed.





  Bob . . .

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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:13 pm Post subject: CS-02 = POS

At 09:51 AM 5/18/2017, you wrote:

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		   Bob,

  

 When you say “B&C ships the sensor with lead wires already installed” are you saying that B&C sells a product like the CS-02?  I looked on their website but cannot find it.

  	


   The picture you posted appears to be the

   three pins on a hall-effect sensor threaded

   onto a current carrying conductor.



   We use the AmpLoc series devices similar to

   what I thought I see in your picture.



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   I can install a harness on the sensor for you

   if it would help.



  	  Quote: 	
		  Also, do you know what the metal terminal that snaps into the plug on the L60 alternator is called?  B&C has EXCELLENT customer service and sent me some replacements for FREE and that is exceptionally cool however I need to by some more of these connectors for car projects I have going on however the support guy did not know the product name of the terminal. 	


    I believe the generic 1/4" fast-on terminals fit those

    spades on the alternator. There are some un-insulated,

    brass terminals that fit inside a plastic housing

    which in turn becomes a 2-wire plug. Those

    terminals are uninsulated and barb on the back

    side that engages a latching cavity inside

    the plug. I've seen them as loose parts at

    B&C but don't know where they get them. They'd

    probably sell you some.



 

   Bob . . .

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