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Mcabbage

Joined: 08 Sep 2013
Posts: 41
Location: MA.

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:46 am Post subject: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

Is there a preferred way to fasten the plastic hydraulic brake lines whilst routing them through airframe and landing gear? Or just zip tie and move on

Thanks Mike

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Rex Rodebush

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 209
Location: Branson West area, Missouri

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

Zip ties work fine for me.  Check out "Flying a Kolb over Table Rock Lake" on utube.  You can see them on the landing gear in the first minute of the video.



If in a high vibration area there is a chance of cutting so use some extra tubing around the line for protection from the tie.

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

I have always used nylon tie wraps.  No problems.  Works great.



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama





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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

It's usually good form to wrap the structure with a turn or two of 

silicone tape, or even vinyl electrical tape before zip tying, to 

protect the metal from abrasion. Grit under the zip tie works like an 

abrasive cutoff wheel, if you don't.



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 Zip ties work fine for me.  Check out "Flying a Kolb over Table Rock Lake" on utube.  You can see them on the landing gear in the first minute of the video.



 If in a high vibration area there is a chance of cutting so use some extra tubing around the line for protection from the tie.




	




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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:44 am Post subject: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

Here is picture of a slmple plastic tie with plastic tubing standoff system. Works equally as well for hydraulic tubing and mechanical cables and wiring looms. 

George H.

Firestar. FS100

Mesick, Michigan 

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rascaljohn

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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:20 pm Post subject: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

I am using  the black max brakes on my FS ll and decided that a 1/4 " aluminum tube "conduit" was good protection for the plastic hydraulic line as it ran down the top of the gear leg. The conduit extends thru the fuselage cage fabric and the lower end has a slight horizontal bend secured by a band using one of the axle bolts. 

Double Zip ties at the top and half way down.



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 Thanks Mike

 

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Mcabbage

Joined: 08 Sep 2013
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Location: MA.

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

Thank you guy's I appreciate it.

I also have the black max brakes.  I'm thinking to install a parking brake in there also.

Regards Mike

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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:24 pm Post subject: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

I've always been just a little paranoid about extra fittings & gadgets 

in the brake system, at least on the heavier stuff I've flown. My 

personal preference would be a couple of light weight chocks, made from 

aluminum angle, with a little pocket somewhere to stow them.



Charlie

(With an aside to John H. , noting that I didn't say 'bigger', now that 

a 380 lb Twinstar is taking up most of my 50x50 hangar.)



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 Thank you guy's I appreciate it.

 I also have the black max brakes.  I'm thinking to install a parking brake in there also.

 Regards Mike



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:48 pm Post subject: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

First time I flew  Kolb Slingshot was at Oshkosh some years ago.  I hopped in, taxied out, took off, flew the traffic pattern, landed, taxied back to the gate to push it back to the Kolb display.  When I got out I told Dennis Souder it took a lot of power to taxi, much more than I felt it should.  He reached under the seat and told me the parking brake was on.  What parking brake?    They had put a shut off valve in the brake line and didn't tell me about it.  I made that flight operation without nosing over.  Good thing the brakes were no more effective than they were.



380 lbs is very light for a Twinstar.  My original Firestar weighed that much by the time I finished adding stuff to it.



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama



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kenw

Joined: 01 Oct 2015
Posts: 25
Location: Oklahoma City

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

check out some of the 100+ 3D printed items from Rainbow Aviation / EMG-6 project.

 they have nice looking brake line attachments & a T-fitting attachment also.

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kenw

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Location: Oklahoma City

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

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Mcabbage

Joined: 08 Sep 2013
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Location: MA.

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Fastening hydraulic brake lines

nicely done thank you!

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