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phillik747
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 Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:18 pm Post subject: Trigear brakes |
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I'm hope everyone is doing well. I have taken too long of a vacation from building and going to get back into it. Last I left off I was getting the finger brakes ready.
Since my kit is a mono wheel conversion I don't have F28 & F29 for the 'shelf' that the master cylinders rest on.
http://www.europa-aircraft.biz/upload/Mod%2065%20Matco.pdf
Does anyone have these for sale?
I like the idea of working on the brakes from above vs creating an access panel from below. I'm sure I can order them from Europa but at a premium (US costs).
Thank you,
Kyle
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:15 am Post subject: Trigear brakes |
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Kyle,
I just put a heavily revised brake installation guide for the trigear on my website, I will clean it up after three other projects. Aileron trim first, rudder trim next and then more stuff on the customflightcreations.com website and to the Europa Club as well. For those in the UK we can organize some of the brake install ideas from the past into acceptable approved mods I’m sure with little work.
This pdf attached should answer many of your questions. Refer to your LAA limitations on what can be done if in the UK or if in other parts of the world, where there is more autonomy, you can see how successful brake installations were made and be assured of success. Making the installation is one thing, making is serviceable and structurally sound is imperative.
The Europa cutout mod is fairly easy to fabricate on your own, but be sure to properly secure the area cut out for returning the structural strength of the module. I have repaired a number of minor Europa mishap damaged aircraft. The center tunnel is a very strong truss work which, properly installed, will maintain cockpit integrity in a frontal crash. It is a shame this Europa Matco brake mod is so expensive. Others have simply used the foot brake brackets turned upside down and fastened them to the tunnel top near the throttle. It works fine but again, the cockpit module was not designed for brake mounting in that area. Look at how the single cylinder brake was mounted in the mono. That install is installed in shear. If you mount the Kart Kraft brakes in the same manner as some of us have on the top of the tunnel, a bending moment pulling on the handles is a peel pull which glass does not handle as well. It is imperative the top of the tunnel be reinforced properly with aluminum plate and additional glass. It is hard to believe you can pull over 400 pounds on a little 9 inch handle. That is over 300 foot pounds of bending on that glass area you just put holes and slots into.
Since 1999 I have assisted folks in installing brake systems and much was learned. The pdf attached is a summary of that learning curve.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
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I'm hope everyone is doing well. I have taken too long of a vacation from building and going to get back into it. Last I left off I was getting the finger brakes ready.
Since my kit is a mono wheel conversion I don't have F28 & F29 for the 'shelf' that the master cylinders rest on.
Does anyone have these for sale?
I like the idea of working on the brakes from above vs creating an access panel from below. I'm sure I can order them from Europa but at a premium (US costs).
Thank you,
Kyle
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phillik747
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| Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Trigear brakes |
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Hello Bud,
I'm excited to go over your PDF. I have all that I need to install the Matco brakes from Europa, just not the moldings. I have to create a mono wheel cover, this might be a better solution for an access panel.
Thank you again Bud for your expert advice!
Merry Christmas!!
Kyle
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