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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:15 am    Post subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/07/18 Reply with quote
Ray,

In the beginning 21 years ago, I had to seal the rivets 2 or 3 times to get them to stop leaking Smile They are sneaky
In the last 6 years, I had to reseal my tanks and recoat them as the ethanol I believe extracted or softened some of the resin. You can call me if you want more details 321-626-4786
There are 2 issues....the sealant and the flexing of the wing over time will leak at the root.
1 - I used PRC Desoto 1750 for 16 years then had to recoat and rebuild some of the wing
2 - I used the same PRC 1750 after rebuild
So far so good...
3 - In my opinion, you MUST apply the standard fix with layers carbon and glass (last page of PDF) or it will always leak do to wing flexing in flight
In the last 6 years, I have not had any leaks after applying this leak fix.
I will NEVER (knowingly) use gas containing ethanol again, only ethanol free or 100 LL with the TCP additive. The repair of the wings is not fun Sad
Thanks
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:41 AM, Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
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                     Total Messages Posted Wed 02/07/18: 6
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Today's Message Index:
----------------------

     1. 12:24 PM - fuel tank leaks  (Ray Wilhelm)
     2. 12:56 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks  (BARRY NORMAN)
     3. 01:02 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks  (Ray Wilhelm)
     4. 01:07 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks  (N3300P)
     5. 01:10 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks  (N3300P)
     6. 01:14 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks  (Ray Wilhelm)



________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 12:24:44 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: fuel tank leaks

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end
plates on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 12:56:15 PM PST US
From: BARRY NORMAN <barrynorman(at)comcast.net (barrynorman(at)comcast.net)>
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

Ray,


I use the same poly sulfide that I use in the end plate itself.


Barry

> On February 7, 2018 at 3:23 PM Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>
>     Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plates
on to the tank?
>
>     Ray
>

________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 01:02:09 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: RE: fuel tank leaks

That is what I used originally, also Barry. That was 20 years ago. Not sure
 what it was and probably not available anymore?

Ray

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: BARRY NORMAN
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

Ray,=C2-

I use the same poly sulfide that I use in the end plate itself.

Barry=C2-
On February 7, 2018 at 3:23 PM Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plat
es on to the tank?

Ray


________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 01:07:02 PM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks
From: N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)>

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html


On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plate
s on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 01:10:48 PM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks
From: N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)>

For details Check page 19
https://www.theflightshop.com/Download/TheFlightShopCatalogrev12.pdf

On Feb 7, 2018, at 3:06 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html


On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plate
s on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 01:14:53 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: RE: fuel tank leaks

That was a smart idea. I would use those if I needed to remove the plates.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: N3300P
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html


On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plat
es on to the tank?

Ray




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:12 am    Post subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/07/18 Reply with quote
WOW !
That is some fix.  I have not heard of any Pulsar III with leakage at the spare joint. Just XP’s. If the leak was at the spar joint it would be readily visible.
My leaks are strictly from the screws. So far, I believe the failure is from an insufficient amount of sealer applied to the heads of the screws.
Thank you for your input.

Ray

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From: Mark Fox (saafbusiness(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:14 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/07/18


Ray,


In the beginning 21 years ago, I had to seal the rivets 2 or 3 times to get them to stop leaking Smile They are sneaky



In the last 6 years, I had to reseal my tanks and recoat them as the ethanol I believe extracted or softened some of the resin. You can call me if you want more details 321-626-4786



There are 2 issues....the sealant and the flexing of the wing over time will leak at the root.



1 - I used PRC Desoto 1750 for 16 years then had to recoat and rebuild some of the wing

 

2 - I used the same PRC 1750 after rebuild



So far so good...



3 - In my opinion, you MUST apply the standard fix with layers carbon and glass (last page of PDF) or it will always leak do to wing flexing in flight



In the last 6 years, I have not had any leaks after applying this leak fix.



I will NEVER (knowingly) use gas containing ethanol again, only ethanol free or 100 LL with the TCP additive. The repair of the wings is not fun Sad



Thanks





On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:41 AM, Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
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  Total Messages Posted Wed 02/07/18: 6
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Today's Message Index:
----------------------

1. 12:24 PM - fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)
2. 12:56 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (BARRY NORMAN)
3. 01:02 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)
4. 01:07 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks  (N3300P)
5. 01:10 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (N3300P)
6. 01:14 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)

________________________________ Message 1  _____________________________________
Time: 12:24:44 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: fuel tank leaks

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end
plates on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 12:56:15 PM PST US
From: BARRY NORMAN <barrynorman(at)comcast.net (barrynorman(at)comcast.net)>
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

Ray,
I use the same poly sulfide that I use in the end plate itself.
Barry

Quote:
On February 7, 2018 at 3:23 PM Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plates
on to the tank?

Quote:

Ray


________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 01:02:09 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: RE: fuel tank leaks

That is what I used originally, also Barry. That was 20 years ago. Not sure
what it was and probably not available anymore?

Ray

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: BARRY NORMAN
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

Ray,=C2-

I use the same poly sulfide that I use in the end plate itself.

Barry=C2-
On February 7, 2018 at 3:23 PM Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plat
es on to the tank?

Ray
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 01:07:02 PM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks
From: N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)>

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plate
s on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 01:10:48 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: fuel tank leaks
From: N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)>

For details Check page 19
https://www.theflightshop.com/Download/TheFlightShopCatalogrev12.pdf

On Feb 7, 2018, at 3:06 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plate
s on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 01:14:53 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: RE: fuel tank leaks

That was a smart idea. I would use those if I needed to remove the plates.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: N3300P
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plat
es on to the tank?

Ray


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:27 am    Post subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/07/18 Reply with quote
I understand now your just sealing the screw heads outside the tank. If you were sealing the end plate it might be best to use a sealant that will allow removal of the plate. One such sealant is PR 1428 B-2
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ppgsemkit09-04704.php

On Feb 8, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Ray Pulsar III/3300 <rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com (rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com)> wrote:

WOW !
That is some fix. I have not heard of any Pulsar III with leakage at the spare joint. Just XP’s. If the leak was at the spar joint it would be readily visible.
My leaks are strictly from the screws. So far, I believe the failure is from an insufficient amount of sealer applied to the heads of the screws.
Thank you for your input.

Ray

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mark Fox (saafbusiness(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:14 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/07/18


Ray,


In the beginning 21 years ago, I had to seal the rivets 2 or 3 times to get them to stop leaking Smile They are sneaky



In the last 6 years, I had to reseal my tanks and recoat them as the ethanol I believe extracted or softened some of the resin. You can call me if you want more details 321-626-4786



There are 2 issues....the sealant and the flexing of the wing over time will leak at the root.



1 - I used PRC Desoto 1750 for 16 years then had to recoat and rebuild some of the wing



2 - I used the same PRC 1750 after rebuild



So far so good..



3 - In my opinion, you MUST apply the standard fix with layers carbon and glass (last page of PDF) or it will always leak do to wing flexing in flight



In the last 6 years, I have not had any leaks after applying this leak fix.



I will NEVER (knowingly) use gas containing ethanol again, only ethanol free or 100 LL with the TCP additive. The repair of the wings is not fun Sad



Thanks





On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:41 AM, Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
Quote:

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  Total Messages Posted Wed 02/07/18: 6
----------------------------------------------------------
Today's Message Index:
----------------------

1. 12:24 PM - fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)
2. 12:56 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (BARRY NORMAN)
3. 01:02 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)
4. 01:07 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (N3300P)
5. 01:10 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (N3300P)
6. 01:14 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)

________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 12:24:44 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: fuel tank leaks

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end
plates on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 2  _____________________________________
Time: 12:56:15 PM PST US
From: BARRY NORMAN <barrynorman(at)comcast.net (barrynorman(at)comcast.net)>
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

Ray,
I use the same poly sulfide that I use in the end plate itself.
Barry

Quote:
On February 7, 2018 at 3:23 PM Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plates
on to the tank?

Quote:

Ray


________________________________  Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 01:02:09 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: RE: fuel tank leaks

That is what I used originally, also Barry. That was 20 years ago. Not sure
what it was and probably not available anymore?

Ray

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: BARRY NORMAN
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

Ray,=C2-

I use the same poly sulfide that I use in the end plate itself.

Barry=C2-
On February 7, 2018 at 3:23 PM Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plat
es on to the tank?

Ray
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 01:07:02 PM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks
From: N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)>

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plate
s on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 5  _____________________________________
Time: 01:10:48 PM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks
From: N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)>

For details Check page 19
https://www.theflightshop.com/Download/TheFlightShopCatalogrev12.pdf

On Feb 7, 2018, at 3:06 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plate
s on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 01:14:53 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: RE: fuel tank leaks

That was a smart idea. I would use those if I needed to remove the plates.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: N3300P
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plat
es on to the tank?

Ray


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:56 am    Post subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/07/18 Reply with quote
That is a terrific idea. I will keep that in the back of my mind for next time.
 
Thanks,
 
Ray

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: N3300P (n3300p(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 8:31 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/07/18


I understand now your just sealing the screw heads outside the tank. If you were sealing the end plate it might be best to use a sealant that will allow removal of the plate. One such sealant is PR 1428 B-2


http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ppgsemkit09-04704.php
On Feb 8, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Ray Pulsar III/3300 <rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com (rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com)> wrote:

WOW !
That is some fix. I have not heard of any Pulsar III with leakage at the spare joint. Just XP’s. If the leak was at the spar joint it would be readily visible.
My leaks are strictly from the screws. So far, I believe the failure is from an insufficient amount of sealer applied to the heads of the screws.
Thank you for your input.

Ray

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mark Fox (saafbusiness(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:14 AM
To: pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/07/18


Ray,


In the beginning 21 years ago, I had to seal the rivets 2 or 3 times to get them to stop leaking Smile They are sneaky



In the last 6 years, I had to reseal my tanks and recoat them as the ethanol I believe extracted or softened some of the resin. You can call me if you want more details 321-626-4786



There are 2 issues....the sealant and the flexing of the wing over time will leak at the root.



1 - I used PRC Desoto 1750 for 16 years then had to recoat and rebuild some of the wing



2 - I used the same PRC 1750 after rebuild



So far so good...



3 - In my opinion, you MUST apply the standard fix with layers carbon and glass (last page of PDF) or it will always leak do to wing flexing in flight



In the last 6 years, I have not had any leaks after applying this leak fix.



I will NEVER (knowingly) use gas containing ethanol again, only ethanol free or 100 LL with the TCP additive. The repair of the wings is not fun Sad



Thanks





On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:41 AM, Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list(at)matronics.com (pulsar-list(at)matronics.com)> wrote:
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  Total Messages Posted Wed 02/07/18: 6
----------------------------------------------------------
Today's Message Index:
----------------------

1. 12:24 PM - fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)
2. 12:56 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (BARRY NORMAN)
3. 01:02 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)
4. 01:07 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (N3300P)
5. 01:10 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (N3300P)
6. 01:14 PM - Re: fuel tank leaks (Ray Wilhelm)

________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 12:24:44 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: fuel tank leaks

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end
plates on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 12:56:15 PM PST US
From: BARRY NORMAN <barrynorman(at)comcast.net (barrynorman(at)comcast.net)>
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

Ray,
I use the same poly sulfide that I use in the end plate itself.
Barry

Quote:
On February 7, 2018 at 3:23 PM Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plates
on to the tank?

Quote:

Ray


________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 01:02:09 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: RE: fuel tank leaks

That is what I used originally, also Barry. That was 20 years ago. Not sure
what it was and probably not available anymore?

Ray

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From: BARRY NORMAN
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

Ray,=C2-

I use the same poly sulfide that I use in the end plate itself.

Barry=C2-
On February 7, 2018 at 3:23 PM Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plat
es on to the tank?

Ray
________________________________  Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 01:07:02 PM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks
From: N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)>

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plate
s on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 01:10:48 PM PST US
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks
From: N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)>

For details Check page 19
https://www.theflightshop.com/Download/TheFlightShopCatalogrev12.pdf

On Feb 7, 2018, at 3:06 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plate
s on to the tank?

Ray

________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 01:14:53 PM PST US
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)>
Subject: RE: fuel tank leaks

That was a smart idea. I would use those if I needed to remove the plates.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: N3300P
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: fuel tank leaks

I used these
http://www.theflightshop.com/Cataspx63.html
On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com (rwilhelm25(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Any recommendations to seal the mounting screws that hold the tank end plat
es on to the tank?

Ray


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