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GalinHdz

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:34 pm Post subject: How do you remove the flaps?

Can anybody post a step-by-step method to remove the flaps on a KIS4?

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Robert Reed

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:52 pm Post subject: How do you remove the flaps?

Disconnect the connection from handle to flap control arm then lower the flaps by hand until control arms slip out if the channel at end of flaps. Once flaps are fully down the hinges should be accessible. 



(My assumption was manual flaps. In my case I disconnect the flap motor and lower flaps. )



Bob Reed

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		   On Jun 22, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 Can anybody post a step-by-step method to remove the flaps on a KIS4?

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GalinHdz

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:42 pm Post subject: How do you remove the flaps?

THANKS! The flap hinges are in excellent shape but, since I have new ones, I am going to replace them anyways.Â 

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 Disconnect the connection from handle to flap control arm then lower the flaps by hand until control arms slip out if the channel at end of flaps. Once flaps are fully down the hinges should be accessible. 

 (My assumption was manual flaps. In my case I disconnect the flap motor and lower flaps. )

 Bob Reed

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 > On Jun 22, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:11 pm Post subject: How do you remove the flaps?

For a while there I could not understand the problem.

 

Then I realised I put nut plates on all my hinges, this makes it a breeze to remove and replace them, you only have to get to one side. I put a piece of weed eater nylon through 2 holes on Â the hinge and then through the holes in the wing and pull it together with one hand and put the screws in with the other. Also explains why Iâ€™m not in the air yet.

 

Try these screws https://www.microfasteners.com/fcmxs0808-8-32-x-1-2-t15-100-degree-flat-head-6-lobe-drive-machine-screws-stainless.html



 

Keep well

 

Mike

 

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THANKS! The flap hinges are in excellent shape but, since I have new ones, I am going to replace them anyways. 



 

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Disconnect the connection from handle to flap control arm then lower the flaps by hand until control arms slip out if the channel at end of flaps. Once flaps are fully down the hinges should be accessible. 



(My assumption was manual flaps. In my case I disconnect the flap motor and lower flaps. )



Bob Reed

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		   On Jun 22, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 

 Can anybody post a step-by-step method to remove the flaps on a KIS4?


	




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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:08 am Post subject: How do you remove the flaps?

Too bad the hinges arenâ€™t made of titanium.  Then you wouldnâ€™t have to change them. 

Al



On Jun 23, 2018, at 12:10 AM, <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> wrote:

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For a while there I could not understand the problem.

 

Then I realised I put nut plates on all my hinges, this makes it a breeze to remove and replace them, you only have to get to one side. I put a piece of weed eater nylon through 2 holes on  the hinge and then through the holes in the wing and pull it together with one hand and put the screws in with the other. Also explains why Iâ€™m not in the air yet.

 

Try these screws https://www.microfasteners.com/fcmxs0808-8-32-x-1-2-t15-100-degree-flat-head-6-lobe-drive-machine-screws-stainless.html



 

Keep well

 

Mike

 

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Subject: Re: How do you remove the flaps?

 

THANKS! The flap hinges are in excellent shape but, since I have new ones, I am going to replace them anyways. 



 

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Disconnect the connection from handle to flap control arm then lower the flaps by hand until control arms slip out if the channel at end of flaps. Once flaps are fully down the hinges should be accessible. 



(My assumption was manual flaps. In my case I disconnect the flap motor and lower flaps. )



Bob Reed

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		   On Jun 22, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 

 Can anybody post a step-by-step method to remove the flaps on a KIS4?


	




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GalinHdz

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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:56 pm Post subject: How do you remove the flaps?

Bob, I followed your notes and it worked perfectly. The flap hinges are in such perfect shape I am not even going to replace them. But now I know how to do it.Â  THANKS!



On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa(at)gmail.com (fredorosa(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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Too bad the hinges arenâ€™t made of titanium.Â  Then you wouldnâ€™t have to change them.Â 

Al



On Jun 23, 2018, at 12:10 AM, <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> wrote:

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For a while there I could not understand the problem.

Â 

Then I realised I put nut plates on all my hinges, this makes it a breeze to remove and replace them, you only have to get to one side. I put a piece of weed eater nylon through 2 holes on Â the hinge and then through the holes in the wing and pull it together with one hand and put the screws in with the other. Also explains why Iâ€™m not in the air yet.

Â 

Try these screws https://www.microfasteners.com/fcmxs0808-8-32-x-1-2-t15-100-degree-flat-head-6-lobe-drive-machine-screws-stainless.html



Â 

Keep well

Â 

Mike

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Subject: Re: KIS-List: How do you remove the flaps?

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THANKS! The flap hinges are in excellent shape but, since I have new ones, I am going to replace them anyways.Â 



Â 

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--> KIS-List message posted by: Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net (robertr237(at)att.net)>



Disconnect the connection from handle to flap control arm then lower the flaps by hand until control arms slip out if the channel at end of flaps. Once flaps are fully down the hinges should be accessible. 



(My assumption was manual flaps. In my case I disconnect the flap motor and lower flaps. )



Bob Reed

Sent from my iPhone



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		   On Jun 22, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 

 Can anybody post a step-by-step method to remove the flaps on a KIS4?


	




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Robert Reed

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Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: How do you remove the flaps?

Galin 



Glad that I could be some help to you.

I am making progress and I think I see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. I had the engine removed, torn down and inspected. After almost 15 years of storage the only problems found were dried seals and the preservation oil had gummed up. They are supposed to remount the engine next week. Following that I just have about 40 hours of wiring to finish. 

Oh and I still have to purchase the Dynon Skyview system and all the com system but I have prepared everything for just dropping them in.  I am guessing that about 100 hours work remain before DAR inspection and first flight. 



Bob Reed

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On Jun 23, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		  Bob, I followed your notes and it worked perfectly. The flap hinges are in such perfect shape I am not even going to replace them. But now I know how to do it.  THANKS!



On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa(at)gmail.com (fredorosa(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

Too bad the hinges arenâ€™t made of titanium.  Then you wouldnâ€™t have to change them. 

Al



On Jun 23, 2018, at 12:10 AM, <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

For a while there I could not understand the problem.

 

Then I realised I put nut plates on all my hinges, this makes it a breeze to remove and replace them, you only have to get to one side. I put a piece of weed eater nylon through 2 holes on  the hinge and then through the holes in the wing and pull it together with one hand and put the screws in with the other. Also explains why Iâ€™m not in the air yet.

 

Try these screws https://www.microfasteners.com/fcmxs0808-8-32-x-1-2-t15-100-degree-flat-head-6-lobe-drive-machine-screws-stainless.html



 

Keep well

 

Mike

 

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Sent: June 22, 2018 5:42 PM

To: kis-list(at)matronics.com (kis-list(at)matronics.com)

Subject: Re: How do you remove the flaps?

 

THANKS! The flap hinges are in excellent shape but, since I have new ones, I am going to replace them anyways. 



 

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net (robertr237(at)att.net)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

--> KIS-List message posted by: Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net (robertr237(at)att.net)>



Disconnect the connection from handle to flap control arm then lower the flaps by hand until control arms slip out if the channel at end of flaps. Once flaps are fully down the hinges should be accessible. 



(My assumption was manual flaps. In my case I disconnect the flap motor and lower flaps. )



Bob Reed

Sent from my iPhone



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		   On Jun 22, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 

 Can anybody post a step-by-step method to remove the flaps on a KIS4?


	




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