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 Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:31 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/05/18 |
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If you want a yank and bank a kolb, try the sling shot. High landing gear. Short fuse and only 22 feet of wing. Couple all that with a rotax 912/80 hp engine and you have a tiger by the tail. No heavy ails here. If you look left you go left. Very little pressure on stick. I love the plane. Take off in three hundred feet or less and can land on a dime. Not for a average pilot. If you know how to use a rudder and want to cruise 95 mph on 3.2 gph this is your toy. Been flying it for ten years and over eight hundred hours. If you set it up right (ask me and I will tell you how) it is a dream to fly. Flew original firestar over a thousand hrs. Great plane! Miss ole White Lightning but love my Grez'd Lightnin better. Can outrun the Hawk! Ted Cowan slingshot 912 zoom zoom
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Total Messages Posted Sun 08/05/18: 13
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:13 AM - Firestar/HKS First Flight (Bill Berle)
2. 04:28 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Richard Pike)
3. 04:54 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (George Helton)
4. 07:31 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (John Hauck)
5. 07:31 AM - Re: Bass Lake (TheWanderingWench)
6. 07:54 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Gary Aman)
7. 09:17 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Rex Rodebush)
8. 11:29 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Bill Berle)
9. 11:47 AM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (west1m)
10. 02:30 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (George Helton)
11. 03:15 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (lcottrell1020)
12. 05:13 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Stuart Harner)
13. 08:18 PM - Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight (Richard Pike)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 12:13:31 AM PST US
From: Bill Berle <victorbravo(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Firestar/HKS First Flight
Finally after two years of screwing around and getting the HKS engine systems installed
and working, today was initial flight test day.
I did two early morning high speed taxi runs down the runway, then five "crow hops"
from 5 feet to 50 feet AGL down the runway. Early morning before the tower
opened (none of the radio equipment I tried to use would work) , then later
in the evening (after the tower closed at 8PM local) one 10 minute flight doing
ovals around the runway at 500 AGL.
Elevator and rudder light on the controls, ailerons heavy. This will need to be
addressed one way or another.
Required 2 or 3 pounds of forward pressure on the stick for level flight.
Indicated airspeed 50-55 MPH, no idea if this is accurate or not.
Takeoff very short, did not attempt minimum speed landings yet.
Ground steering sensitive but effective.
"Deck Angle" in flight was much different than I had imagined. In order to maintain
level flight the instrument panel was way way down low below the horizon.
Lots lower than where I thought it should be. That is just my inexperience with
the Kolb and UL style aircraft in general.
HKS engine ran well once warmed up. No sagging or "wandering" in flight.
Maximum RPM in flight was 5750, I retarded the throttle to keep it below max continuous
RPM (5800). Might be adding one degree of pitch to the prop blades.
My biggest mistake was due to inexperience with this type of aircraft.... when
I was at 500 AGL it looked to me like I was at 1500 AGL. I thought the altimeter
was wrong, but my ground crew and friends said "yep, looked like you were at
about 500 feet." I was shocked, I thought I was much higher than that!
Bill Berle
www.ezflaphandle.com - safety & performance upgrade for light aircraft
www.grantstar.net - winning proposals for non-profit and for-profit entities
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On Sat, 8/4/18, Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: Re: Firestar/HKS Engine Test Run
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, August 4, 2018, 2:41 PM
My neighbor, who did
the covering on my Twinstar, used a similar technique, but
it allows rotating the wing. We pinched the end of a piece
of water pipe (~1 foot long) so it would slide over that
attach point, and bolted it. It obviously has a bit of slop
in the fit, but won't come off. The pipe rests in a
'saddle' made with 2 long 2x4s with a shorter one
between. Height of the center one enough to swing the
leading edge without hitting the floor. Wing tip on a padded
saw horse (or table, etc, whatever works for you). Obviously
requires a helper to move the saw horse while you rotate the
wing. When you're ready to rib stitch with a helper,
something lower like a milk crate would be needed.
Something I wish I'd done while it was
uncovered is to clip the wing back to the end of the main
spar. If the wing is clipped, you can just insert something
in the open end of the spar to support the tip. The end
could be closed with a plate after covering. I may yet clip
it. One side of my hangar has a 30' opening, and I could
keep it on that side instead of the main hangar.
Charlie
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at
3:37 PM, Richard Pike <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
wrote:
"Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
Sorry I don't have what you are asking for, but here is
the crude way that I did the MKIII: I have a steel support
pole in the middle of the garage that supports the upstairs
floor, and I put a extra long bolt through the rear spar
pivot point, band clamped it to that pole, and then set the
leading edge on two milk crates. One crate near the root and
one near the tip. Worked OK. Not great, but OK.
Had to put it on sawhorses to do the leading edge top and
bottom.
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 04:28:35 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Firestar/HKS First Flight
From: "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>
Congratulations!
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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0
Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=482067#482067
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 04:54:43 AM PST US
From: George Helton
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John Hauck
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)
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| Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:49 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/05/18 |
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Ted C/Kolbers:
IIRC there was a 582 on your new Slingshot. I flew over to your place to
fly with you to Don and Ruby Wilson's. I can't remember. Would have to
look at my log book for sure. Your zoom zoom couldn't keep up with big fat
Miss P'fer flying 80-85 mph. Hopefully, it does a little better with the
912. After all...my MKIII is twice as big and much heavier than your little
SS. 
10 years? Didn't realize it had been that long.
Yep...80-85 is my normal cruise burning 5 gph with the 912ULS. The 912UL
burned 4 gph flying the same speed. Go figure???
I couldn't keep up with John Williamson's Kolbra after he took the Jabiru
off and mounted the 912ULS. Before that I could outrun him.
Guess my saving grace is Miss P'fers ability to haul everything I can think
of to stuff in her for long cross country flights. Besides 150 lbs of fuel,
she performs well loaded down with all my other stuff.
I know you are enjoying your SS. I used to fly the first SS for Homer Kolb.
It was powered with a 582. It was impressive and a lot of fun to fly. New
Kolb Aircraft had Bruce Chesnut's SS that I flew for them, powered with a
912ULS, 100hp. The SS's fly much like the FF, only a Hell of a lot faster.
What does your SS top out at, true airspeed? John Williamson did a speed
flight down the black line on Bonneville Salt Flats the first time we landed
there. He clocked 112 mph. Not bad for a big ultralight. RIP brother.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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