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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Wiring batteries in parallel? Reply with quote

When I built my battery tray, I was anticipating a dual battery (Z14)
architecture. I'm now convinced that a z13 would be a better match. I'm
having trouble finding a single battery that will fit my tray footprint
(7.3"x6.2") I built the tray for 2 Odessey PC680's (at) 17ah ea. Can I wire
the 2 batteries together in parallel and treat them (architecturally) as
a single battery w/ 34 ah capacity? Are there any special considerations
for the wiring (I assume #2 welders cable)?

THANKS
(all this electrical stuff is voodoo to me)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Wiring batteries in parallel? Reply with quote

Deems;        IN Z-14 when you crossfeed the systems that is precisly what you are doing. Combining two 17 amp to make one 34 amp battery.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Wiring batteries in parallel? Reply with quote

At 09:01 PM 7/17/2006 -0700, you wrote:

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When I built my battery tray, I was anticipating a dual battery (Z14)
architecture. I'm now convinced that a z13 would be a better match. I'm
having trouble finding a single battery that will fit my tray footprint
(7.3"x6.2") I built the tray for 2 Odessey PC680's (at) 17ah ea. Can I wire
the 2 batteries together in parallel and treat them (architecturally) as a
single battery w/ 34 ah capacity?

Yes, but why so much battery? You could stick a block of styrofoam
in to take up the space and use the recovered 13# for baggage or
passengers.

Quote:
Are there any special considerations for the wiring (I assume #2
welders cable)?

#4 is fine for battery jumpers. #2 is considered for bringing
widely separated battery and engine together . . . but if both
are up-front, #4 suffices for all fat wires.
Quote:
THANKS
(all this electrical stuff is voodoo to me)

Hang around here and we'll attempt to make it less
mystifying.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:54 am    Post subject: Wiring batteries in parallel? Reply with quote

At 12:19 AM 7/18/2006 -0400, you wrote:

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Deems; IN Z-14 when you crossfeed the systems that is precisly what
you are doing. Combining two 17 amp to make one 34 amp battery.


That, and some other things.

One may close the cross-feed contactor during cranking to achieve
the effect of a "stronger" battery irrespective of what size
batteries are used. The only caveat is that the batteries should
individually be capable of delivering engine cranking currents.
E.g., you wouldn't want to cross-feed a 17 ah battery with a 7 ah
battery for starting.

Otherwise, the cross-feed contactor is left open for all normal
ops and closed only when it makes sense to share the capabilities
of a working system to offset the failed capability in the other
system.

One can run dual or triple or even quad batteries in any
of the z-figures if design goals show that the capability
is useful and offsets some potentially catastrophic hazard.
It's very rare that more than two batteries will be needed.
Z-30 shows how additional batteries may be added over and
above existing batteries to provide another always-hot bus
for some task.

Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Wiring batteries in parallel? Reply with quote

On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
Quote:

One may close the cross-feed contactor during cranking to achieve
the effect of a "stronger" battery irrespective of what size
batteries are used. The only caveat is that the batteries should
individually be capable of delivering engine cranking currents.
E.g., you wouldn't want to cross-feed a 17 ah battery with a 7 ah
battery for starting.

Uh, why not? If the two batteries are of the same type they will
deliver current proportional to their capacity. Even tying an almost
depleted battery with an almost full battery will increase the
available starting current. The only thing I don't think you would
want to do is tie a gel-cell together with an AGM but for starting
even that would probably be OK. (It would definitely not be OK for
charging tho'.)

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