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Dwight Kottke



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

Fellow Flyers, I noticed on the pictures sent in by Will U. that his gas tank on his Firestar is located way down low sitting on top of the main boom tube.  On some of the two seater airships the twin tanks are also located very low.  Heres my question:  on my Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the bottom.  Is this in the wrong location?  Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

Dwight, Just as a data point since I didn't build it, the Firestar I just bought has the tank as you describe yours.

Rick

On 7/18/06, Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com (Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com) <Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com (Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com)> wrote:
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Fellow Flyers, I noticed on the pictures sent in by Will U. that his gas tank on his Firestar is located way down low sitting on top of the main boom tube.  On some of the two seater airships the twin tanks are also located very low.  Heres my question:  on my Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the bottom.  Is this in the wrong location?  Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar?
Confused down on the Farm!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: Tank location Reply with quote

Dwight, If you would send me your e-mail address directly and have high speed internet, I will send you pictures of mine including the photo's of the inside area and cutout as in my "single seat 5 gallion" Firestar KXP 1991 vintage.

My direct e-mail is FLHT99REH(at)columbus.rr.com

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

Dwight:
Reasonably sure that what you have is the standard for the Original FS.  My hangar neighbor and I both had Original Firestars (his was kind of, mostly factory built) and both were the same as yours. 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

I put my 10 gal. tank on both my Firestars directly on the boom tube.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

Is this in the wrong
| location? Where should the gas tank be located on an original
Firestar?
| Confused down on the Farm!
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| The Flying Farmer

TFF/Gang:

That is the stock location of the original FS fuel tank.

Did you know you can put an 18 gal tank in that same location???

That's how much fuel I was hauling in my original FS.

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Dwight Kottke



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

George, please expand on your 10 gallon set up.  Do you two fives or one 10?  What about weight, you must be over P103?  Strength, can the might Firestar haul that load?  What engine are you using?  Any other info?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

Dwight, you must realize that the higher he tank is, the less power is needed to pump fuel to the engine! I'd consider a higher tank location a plus.FWIW
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On Jul 18, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
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Dwight, Just as a data point since I didn't build it, the Firestar I just bought has the tank as you describe yours.

Rick

On 7/18/06, Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com (Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com) <Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com (Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com)> wrote:
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Fellow Flyers, I noticed on the pictures sent in by Will U. that his gas tank on his Firestar is located way down low sitting on top of the main boom tube.  On some of the two seater airships the twin tanks are also located very low.  Heres my question:  on my Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the bottom.  Is this in the wrong location?  Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar?
Confused down on the Farm!

The Flying Farmer

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

John,
Where can I buy such a tank and how did you get it in there?
Jerry
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

In a message dated 7/18/2006 2:23:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Dwight.Kottke(at)hti.htch.com writes:
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on my Firestar my tank is located half way between the boom tube and the top of the main fuselage tube, actually closer to the top than the bottom.  Is this in the wrong location?  Where should the gas tank be located on an original Firestar?


Dwight and All,
 
As others stated, the original FireStar fuel tank was located up high as yours is.  I believe the reason is that since the fabric on the fuselage sides goes all the way up to the wing, the tank was located up high in order to be able to reach the filler cap.  Later FireStars (ie. KX & KXP) had the fuselage side fabric lower (I believe Kolb referred to it as a "convertible") and the tank was located down low on the boom tube.  
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:58 am    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

| Where can I buy such a tank and how did you get it in there?
| Jerry
Jerry/Gang:

Don't know that you can buy an 18 gal tank for an original FS
anywhere.

We designed and fabricated one out of .050 5052 aluminum to fit the
inside, top of the fuselage behind the bulkhead.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject: Tank location Reply with quote

This was on my Firestar II. I bought a Titan 10  gal. tank. I had to cut and re splice one diagonal tube just behind the seat back. put it on a padded metal piece on top of the tube and only brace it to keep it upright.
 Hope this helps.
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