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whodja
Joined: 27 Jan 2014 Posts: 50 Location: Apex NC (near Raleigh)
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: Door interior |
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I’ve seen a few photos of doors with a fabric interior lining. Can anyone provide a source to have them made or anyone have any patterns. Abby at Flightline no longer makes them.
Thanks
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Tim Olson
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2872
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:49 pm Post subject: Door interior |
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Mine are fabric covered, but it isn't anything that is special. Abby
did sell me the fabric, but all I did was glue it on and trim it.
You could buy suitable fabric anywhere and just glue and stretch it in
place and do what I did.
Tim
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maca2790
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 59 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:14 pm Post subject: Door interior |
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Did you just use spray on contact like 3M?
Cheers
John MacCallum
VHDUU
Sent from my iPhone
Quote: | On 20 Nov 2018, at 1:45 pm, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
Mine are fabric covered, but it isn't anything that is special. Abby
did sell me the fabric, but all I did was glue it on and trim it.
You could buy suitable fabric anywhere and just glue and stretch it in
place and do what I did.
Tim
> On 11/19/2018 8:29 PM, whodja wrote:
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> I’ve seen a few photos of doors with a fabric interior lining. Can anyone provide a source to have them made or anyone have any patterns. Abby at Flightline no longer makes them.
> Thanks
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Tim Olson
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2872
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:32 am Post subject: Door interior |
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I may have it on my website, I'm not sure. It's been 12 years now.
But, I think it was this stuff: 3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive.
https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-18767/Aerosols/3M-Super-77-Spray-Adhesive-Low-VOC?pricode=WB1191&gadtype=pla&id=S-18767&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_s7fBRDrARIsAGEvF8TA3pVgSr2ak_N8E0-rq0Anfi_eQPeywRLPkYodmdy17YR79MXFy6AaAnLTEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Tim
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Did you just use spray on contact like 3M?
Cheers
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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com Guest
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: Door interior |
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FWIW, I installed Abbey's interior and have been pretty happy with it.Â
However, after having covered the doors and flown it for a few years, I
decided to remove the fabric and just paint the doors in conjunction
with a door latch upgrade.
I prefer the doors painted. I have the fabric headliner in.
The thing I never could get to work well is the window trim. A more
careful and patient person could do a better job I'm sure. But the
fabric covered rubber round (or double round) they supplied is subject
to heat expansion and contraction which I found makes it impossible to
glue and have it stay in place while sitting on the ramp in say, Phoenix.
Just FYI.
Bill "finishing up a panel upgrade where the new large screen EFIS isn't
working and won't be in time for the trip to Mom and TG day GD!" Watson
...time to punt.
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I’ve seen a few photos of doors with a fabric interior lining. Can anyone provide a source to have them made or anyone have any patterns. Abby at Flightline no longer makes them.
Thanks
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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com Guest
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:26 am Post subject: Door interior |
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I used 3m Super 77 on some of the stuff. But there is also a
purpose-made spray on glue for headliners available at auto supply
places. Works perfectly for headliners and doors - a bit easier to work
with than Super 77.
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bill.peyton
Joined: 19 Sep 2010 Posts: 198 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:27 am Post subject: Re: Door interior |
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I painted the interior of my doors. I used an epoxy based single stage paint with a flattening agent. To add texture to the surface I came back and spayed with a 1-3psi setting on the paint gun. This "spattered" liquid paint on to the surface. When it dries it looks slightly textured. I did this for all the interior surfaces that show. I also have the Aerosport headliner and interior panels. I matched the paint to the kydex interior panels. It is very difficult to put the material on the door surface and get a nice looking finish around the edges and windows. In addition, it adds weight to the door, which will cause you to use the higher pressure gas struts.
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: Door interior |
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Ditto on the weight and higher pressure gas cylinder.
On 11/21/2018 9:27 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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I painted the interior of my doors. I used an epoxy based single stage paint with a flattening agent. To add texture to the surface I came back and spayed with a 1-3psi setting on the paint gun. This "spattered" liquid paint on to the surface. When it dries it looks slightly textured. I did this for all the interior surfaces that show. I also have the Aerosport headliner and interior panels. I matched the paint to the kydex interior panels. It is very difficult to put the material on the door surface and get a nice looking finish around the edges and windows. In addition, it adds weight to the door, which will cause you to use the higher pressure gas struts.
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Tim Olson
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:10 am Post subject: Door interior |
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I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed problem. I'm still
running my original 2005 gas cylinders, with fabric covered
doors, and it hasn't been a problem yet. The doors are
fully resting open right now, in fact.
I also think that having at least some sort of covering
will help a little to deaden sound. That said, a painted
door will look just fine too. I wouldn't hesitate to put
light fabric on again, myself.
Tim
On 11/21/2018 12:21 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
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Ditto on the weight and higher pressure gas cylinder.
On 11/21/2018 9:27 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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> I painted the interior of my doors. I used an epoxy based single
> stage paint with a flattening agent. To add texture to the surface I
> came back and spayed with a 1-3psi setting on the paint gun. This
> "spattered" liquid paint on to the surface. When it dries it looks
> slightly textured. I did this for all the interior surfaces that
> show. I also have the Aerosport headliner and interior panels. I
> matched the paint to the kydex interior panels. It is very difficult
> to put the material on the door surface and get a nice looking finish
> around the edges and windows. In addition, it adds weight to the
> door, which will cause you to use the higher pressure gas struts.
>
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> Bill
> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:45 am Post subject: Door interior |
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I’m still on regular cylinders with the same light fabric from Abby that Tim describes. I also have the flush door handles. No problems.
David Maib
Quote: | On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed problem. I'm still
running my original 2005 gas cylinders, with fabric covered
doors, and it hasn't been a problem yet. The doors are
fully resting open right now, in fact.
I also think that having at least some sort of covering
will help a little to deaden sound. That said, a painted
door will look just fine too. I wouldn't hesitate to put
light fabric on again, myself.
Tim
> On 11/21/2018 12:21 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
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> Ditto on the weight and higher pressure gas cylinder.
>> On 11/21/2018 9:27 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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>> I painted the interior of my doors. I used an epoxy based single stage paint with a flattening agent. To add texture to the surface I came back and spayed with a 1-3psi setting on the paint gun. This "spattered" liquid paint on to the surface. When it dries it looks slightly textured. I did this for all the interior surfaces that show. I also have the Aerosport headliner and interior panels. I matched the paint to the kydex interior panels. It is very difficult to put the material on the door surface and get a nice looking finish around the edges and windows. In addition, it adds weight to the door, which will cause you to use the higher pressure gas struts.
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>> WA0SYV
>> Aviation Partners, LLC
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:09 pm Post subject: Door interior |
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This discussion is very interesting. I have been kicking around what to
do with my interior, doors, inside, maybe overhead console, maybe not,
headliner, etc. It is about decision time if I am ever going to finish
the plane. I need to change some personal priorities. I appreciate the
help some of you have provided when I had specific questions I directed
at a few members. Always enjoy advice from those who have gone before.
David
On 11/21/2018 11:41 AM, David Maib wrote:
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I’m still on regular cylinders with the same light fabric from Abby that Tim describes. I also have the flush door handles. No problems.
David Maib
> On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
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> I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed problem. I'm still
> running my original 2005 gas cylinders, with fabric covered
> doors, and it hasn't been a problem yet. The doors are
> fully resting open right now, in fact.
>
> I also think that having at least some sort of covering
> will help a little to deaden sound. That said, a painted
> door will look just fine too. I wouldn't hesitate to put
> light fabric on again, myself.
> Tim
>
>> On 11/21/2018 12:21 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
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>> Ditto on the weight and higher pressure gas cylinder.
>>> On 11/21/2018 9:27 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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>>>
>>> I painted the interior of my doors. I used an epoxy based single stage paint with a flattening agent. To add texture to the surface I came back and spayed with a 1-3psi setting on the paint gun. This "spattered" liquid paint on to the surface. When it dries it looks slightly textured. I did this for all the interior surfaces that show. I also have the Aerosport headliner and interior panels. I matched the paint to the kydex interior panels. It is very difficult to put the material on the door surface and get a nice looking finish around the edges and windows. In addition, it adds weight to the door, which will cause you to use the higher pressure gas struts.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Bill
>>> WA0SYV
>>> Aviation Partners, LLC
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>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485473#485473
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whodja
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Door interior |
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I appreciate all the ideas. I’ll paint the interior as planned and continue to look for a source to cover the inside.
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maca2790
Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 59 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:20 am Post subject: Door interior |
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Hi David,
I installed a Overhead Console in my 10. I did so because I thought if I ever wanted to put Air Conditioning in it would be handy to have it there already. I haven’t done so as yet but I did put Map Lights where the Vents would go if I had have. In hind sight the Overhead console looks good and it does give you somewhere for your Head Sets to hang off and also have the Cabin Lights installed there on. It really wasn’t hard to install and maybe took me about 8 or 10 hours including putting the lights in.
It’s your plane in the final analysis so you do what you would like.
Cheers
John MacCallum
VH-DUU
Quote: | On 22 Nov 2018, at 4:07 pm, David J. Fritzsche <dfritz(at)bpgsim.com> wrote:
This discussion is very interesting. I have been kicking around what to do with my interior, doors, inside, maybe overhead console, maybe not, headliner, etc. It is about decision time if I am ever going to finish the plane. I need to change some personal priorities. I appreciate the help some of you have provided when I had specific questions I directed at a few members. Always enjoy advice from those who have gone before.
David
> On 11/21/2018 11:41 AM, David Maib wrote:
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> I’m still on regular cylinders with the same light fabric from Abby that Tim describes. I also have the flush door handles. No problems.
>
> David Maib
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>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
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>>
>> I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed problem. I'm still
>> running my original 2005 gas cylinders, with fabric covered
>> doors, and it hasn't been a problem yet. The doors are
>> fully resting open right now, in fact.
>>
>> I also think that having at least some sort of covering
>> will help a little to deaden sound. That said, a painted
>> door will look just fine too. I wouldn't hesitate to put
>> light fabric on again, myself.
>> Tim
>>
>>> On 11/21/2018 12:21 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
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>>> Ditto on the weight and higher pressure gas cylinder.
>>>> On 11/21/2018 9:27 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> I painted the interior of my doors. I used an epoxy based single stage paint with a flattening agent. To add texture to the surface I came back and spayed with a 1-3psi setting on the paint gun. This "spattered" liquid paint on to the surface. When it dries it looks slightly textured. I did this for all the interior surfaces that show. I also have the Aerosport headliner and interior panels. I matched the paint to the kydex interior panels. It is very difficult to put the material on the door surface and get a nice looking finish around the edges and windows. In addition, it adds weight to the door, which will cause you to use the higher pressure gas struts.
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Bill
>>>> WA0SYV
>>>> Aviation Partners, LLC
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=485473#485473
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Kelly McMullen
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:56 am Post subject: Door interior |
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I think you will find a fair number of -10 builders combined the overhead
console with two NACA scoops behind the baggage compartment to feed air
vents overhead. It makes a big difference for me in Aridzona. I also
installed map lights next to the vents.
Sent from my IBM-360 main frame
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 3:25 AM John MacCallum <john.maccallum(at)bigpond.com>
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Hi David,
I installed a Overhead Console in my 10. I did so because I thought if I
ever wanted to put Air Conditioning in it would be handy to have it there
already. I haven’t done so as yet but I did put Map Lights where the Vents
would go if I had have. In hind sight the Overhead console looks good and
it does give you somewhere for your Head Sets to hang off and also have the
Cabin Lights installed there on. It really wasn’t hard to install and
maybe took me about 8 or 10 hours including putting the lights in.
It’s your plane in the final analysis so you do what you would like.
Cheers
John MacCallum
VH-DUU
> On 22 Nov 2018, at 4:07 pm, David J. Fritzsche <dfritz(at)bpgsim.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
> This discussion is very interesting. I have been kicking around what to
do with my interior, doors, inside, maybe overhead console, maybe not,
headliner, etc. It is about decision time if I am ever going to finish the
plane. I need to change some personal priorities. I appreciate the help
some of you have provided when I had specific questions I directed at a few
members. Always enjoy advice from those who have gone before.
>
> David
>
>> On 11/21/2018 11:41 AM, David Maib wrote:
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>>
>> I’m still on regular cylinders with the same light fabric from Abby
that Tim describes. I also have the flush door handles. No problems.
>>
>> David Maib
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed problem. I'm still
>>> running my original 2005 gas cylinders, with fabric covered
>>> doors, and it hasn't been a problem yet. The doors are
>>> fully resting open right now, in fact.
>>>
>>> I also think that having at least some sort of covering
>>> will help a little to deaden sound. That said, a painted
>>> door will look just fine too. I wouldn't hesitate to put
>>> light fabric on again, myself.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>> On 11/21/2018 12:21 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ditto on the weight and higher pressure gas cylinder.
>>>>> On 11/21/2018 9:27 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
>>>>>
billpeyton9(at)gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> I painted the interior of my doors. I used an epoxy based single
stage paint with a flattening agent. To add texture to the surface I came
back and spayed with a 1-3psi setting on the paint gun. This "spattered"
liquid paint on to the surface. When it dries it looks slightly textured
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maca2790
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:34 pm Post subject: Door interior |
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Yes I have seen that done a few times. It gets well over 40 deg C here in Narromine, NSW in Summer so it would be a good feature!
It’s always a race always to get to 7 or 8 thousand feet to cool off!
Cheers
John MacCallum
VH-DUU
RV10 41016
On 25 Nov 2018, at 12:54 am, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com (apilot2(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote: | I think you will find a fair number of -10 builders combined the overhead console with two NACA scoops behind the baggage compartment to feed air vents overhead. It makes a big difference for me in Aridzona. I also installed map lights next to the vents. Quote: | Sent from my IBM-360 main frame |
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 3:25 AM John MacCallum <john.maccallum(at)bigpond.com (john.maccallum(at)bigpond.com)> wrote:
Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: John MacCallum <john.maccallum(at)bigpond.com (john.maccallum(at)bigpond.com)>
Hi David,
I installed a Overhead Console in my 10. I did so because I thought if I ever wanted to put Air Conditioning in it would be handy to have it there already. I haven’t done so as yet but I did put Map Lights where the Vents would go if I had have. In hind sight the Overhead console looks good and it does give you somewhere for your Head Sets to hang off and also have the Cabin Lights installed there on. It really wasn’t hard to install and maybe took me about 8 or 10 hours including putting the lights in.
It’s your plane in the final analysis so you do what you would like.
Cheers
John MacCallum
VH-DUU
> On 22 Nov 2018, at 4:07 pm, David J. Fritzsche <dfritz(at)bpgsim.com (dfritz(at)bpgsim.com)> wrote:
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: "David J. Fritzsche" <dfritz(at)bpgsim.com (dfritz(at)bpgsim.com)>
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> This discussion is very interesting. I have been kicking around what to do with my interior, doors, inside, maybe overhead console, maybe not, headliner, etc. It is about decision time if I am ever going to finish the plane. I need to change some personal priorities. I appreciate the help some of you have provided when I had specific questions I directed at a few members. Always enjoy advice from those who have gone before.
>
> David
>
>> On 11/21/2018 11:41 AM, David Maib wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: David Maib <dmaib(at)mac.com (dmaib(at)mac.com)>
>>
>> I’m still on regular cylinders with the same light fabric from Abby that Tim describes. I also have the flush door handles. No problems.
>>
>> David Maib
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)> wrote:
>>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't say it's a guaranteed problem. I'm still
>>> running my original 2005 gas cylinders, with fabric covered
>>> doors, and it hasn't been a problem yet. The doors are
>>> fully resting open right now, in fact.
>>>
>>> I also think that having at least some sort of covering
>>> will help a little to deaden sound. That said, a painted
>>> door will look just fine too. I wouldn't hesitate to put
>>> light fabric on again, myself.
>>> Tim
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>>>> On 11/21/2018 12:21 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
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>>>>> I painted the interior of my doors. I used an epoxy based single stage paint with a flattening agent. To add texture to the surface I came back and spayed with a 1-3psi setting on the paint gun. This "spattered" liquid paint on to the surface. When it dries it looks slightly textured. I did this for all the interior surfaces that show. I also have the Aerosport headliner and interior panels. I matched the paint to the kydex interior panels. It is very difficult to put the material on the door surface and get a nice looking finish around the edges and windows. In addition, it adds weight to the door, which will cause you to use the higher pressure gas struts.
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Abby will still make RV-10 seat covers and carpet sets. The door and
headliner is just fabric, that Abby can supply, that you cut to fit and
use spray adhesive (like others have said) to put it on. Â She no longer
makes the upper interior panels.
Fabric covered doors with McMaster door seals is not quite as easy as
the Vans seals. You would need to hold the fabric off the perimeter
edge so seals to the painted fiberglass. Then you have to provide some
sort of finished edge on the fabric.
On 11/19/2018 9:29 PM, whodja wrote:
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I’ve seen a few photos of doors with a fabric interior lining. Can anyone provide a source to have them made or anyone have any patterns. Abby at Flightline no longer makes them.
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I would recommend just finishing/paint the doors. Don’t use a flat paint for this. Flat paint will hold the dirt and stain more then a semi-gloss. Use a nice 2 part paint if possible. Let the finish coat dry about 90% and then if using a spray gun and air compressor turn the air way down 2-5lbs and put a nice spatter/speckle finish coat on. This makes a real nice, very light texture finish and will also clean up very easy.
I have had many people ask what I put on my doors, thinking it was fabric, plastic or a vinyl/leather.
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