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Yellowhammer

Joined: 21 Mar 2018
Posts: 101
Location: Franklinton, Louisiana

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:27 am Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

Greetings,



I am a new member and I have recently acquired a Pulsar (Kit#277). I have been told that since my fuselage halves have been joined together already that I am out of luck. 

I would very much like to install la 4 stroke Rotax but it is my understanding that I would need the X P supplement manual to accomplish this goal. 



If anyone could be so kind as to give me some knowledge and guidance with this issue I would certainly be most appreciative. 



My kit came with composite spars and wooden wing skins. If I need to include any other information please let me know!



Thank you,

Clyde Oyler

"Yellowhammer"

_________________
J.M. Oyler "Clyde"

Eclat2

Joined: 06 Sep 2013
Posts: 13
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: New Member Pulsar Builder

It's not just a matter of having the XP assembly manual... you need the XP parts.   While the basic fuselage 'shape' for both the 582 and XP  came out of the same mold, the layup pattern was changed to make the XP fuselage stronger as required to support the greater weight and the higher aerodynamic loads, flutter potential, etc., that go with greater speed.



If you had the XP parts, then the XP manual would tell you how the assembly steps are different.   But there is no manual or other documentation that will tell you how to convert a 582 fuselage into an XP fuselage... that happened in the mold during manufacture.   And just plunking a Rotax 912 into the front of a 582 isn't wise... that's not what Aero Designs did.



What is your kit's quoted Gross Weight? (go look for your info, I don't need to know).   For the most part, Gross Weight is determined by wing strength, and that's mostly due to the spar.   Whatever your kit's Gross Weight is won't change when/ if you convert to a Rotax 912, and any weight you add to the plane's Empty Weight during the process will reduce the Useful Load by a similar amount.   All the games you play with your kit must take place under your kit's Gross Weight limit.



Rotax 912 UL. = 60.9 kg / 134.2 lbs Installed Weight

Rotax 912 ULS = 63.8 kg / 140.6 lbs Installed Weight

Plus bigger prop.



There are owners here who have converted a 582 to a Jabiru or Camit 2200 flat-4, air-cooled engine.   Perhaps one of them can provide you with some insight on that conversion.   But it's a big project that transcends just having the correct manual... and it doesn't have a manual.



Some early composite spars were incorrectly manufactured, and are not air-worthy.   I don't know how to tell good from bad, but do make certain you have a good spar before proceeding with wing assembly.



The Pulsar Aviators group over on YahooGroups has a "Files" section that contains a lot of supporting documentation, including PDFs of some manuals.   I believe much of the XP manual is there.   Subscribe there, and check it out.



Good luck,

Tim

mjb777

Joined: 11 Aug 2012
Posts: 54
Location: Dubai UAE

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: New Member Pulsar Builder

Contact Sonja Englert via her website "Caro Engineering" or via her email paqs345(at)gmail(dot)com.



I highly recommend her services as a reputable Aeronautical Engineer and owner of a modified Pulsar that she carried out many upgrades to.



She has been very helpful with my project and my desired upgrades which are very similar to what you are looking to achieve.



Matt.

_________________
Pulsar 1 TD Kit.
Captain B777.
Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.

simongoozee(at)tiscali.co
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:45 pm Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

The defective spars were made upside down, ie the upper cap strip was thinner than the  lower, the SB has more detail but that's the gist of it.



Sent from my iPad



 	  Quote: 	
		   On 18 Jan 2019, at 21:50, Eclat2 <TSEngel(at)comcast.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 It's not just a matter of having the XP assembly manual... you need the XP parts.   While the basic fuselage 'shape' for both the 582 and XP  came out of the same mold, the layup pattern was changed to make the XP fuselage stronger as required to support the greater weight and the higher aerodynamic loads, flutter potential, etc., that go with greater speed.

 

 If you had the XP parts, then the XP manual would tell you how the assembly steps are different.   But there is no manual or other documentation that will tell you how to convert a 582 fuselage into an XP fuselage... that happened in the mold during manufacture.   And just plunking a Rotax 912 into the front of a 582 isn't wise... that's not what Aero Designs did.

 

 What is your kit's quoted Gross Weight? (go look for your info, I don't need to know).   For the most part, Gross Weight is determined by wing strength, and that's mostly due to the spar.   Whatever your kit's Gross Weight is won't change when/ if you convert to a Rotax 912, and any weight you add to the plane's Empty Weight during the process will reduce the Useful Load by a similar amount.   All the games you play with your kit must take place under your kit's Gross Weight limit.

 

 Rotax 912 UL . = 60.9 kg / 134.2 lbs Installed Weight

 Rotax 912 ULS = 63.8 kg / 140.6 lbs Installed Weight

 Plus bigger prop.

 

 There are owners here who have converted a 582 to a Jabiru or Camit 2200 flat-4, air-cooled engine.   Perhaps one of them can provide you with some insight on that conversion.   But it's a big project that transcends just having the correct manual... and it doesn't have a manual.

 

 Some early composite spars were incorrectly manufactured, and are not air-worthy.   I don't know how to tell good from bad, but do make certain you have a good spar before proceeding with wing assembly.

 

 The Pulsar Aviators group over on YahooGroups has a "Files" section that contains a lot of supporting documentation, including PDFs of some manuals.   I believe much of the XP manual is there.   Subscribe there, and check it out.

 

 Good luck,

 Tim

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487080#487080

paqs345(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:15 am Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

Hello Clyde,  

Â   

This topic comes up again and again. The Pulsar 1 with wood wings has a gross weight of 900 lb, vs 1060 lb for the Pulsar XP. If you installed a Rotax 912 without any modifications, you would turn it into a single seater.   

Â   

I have done the analysis and documentation to modify the Pulsar 1 structure to XP weight and speed limits, but that includes adding plies to the fuselage skin on the inside, which would be very difficult to impossible with the skin halves already bonded. It also means highly modifying the wings for wing tanks instead of a fuselage tank, and probably increasing the spar structure, althoughÂ  I don't know what the dimensions are of the composite spars you have. They would have to be measured and either reinforced or you may need to build new spars.  

Â   

All in all, it probably doubles the amount of work over building the Pulsar as the model it was designed, plus the extra engineering work can get expensive.  

Â   

Sonja  

paqs345(at)gmail.com (paqs345(at)gmail.com)

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:31 AM Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  --> Pulsar-List message posted by: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)>

 

 Greetings,

 

 I am a new member and I have recently acquired a Pulsar (Kit#277). I have been told that since my fuselage halves have been joined together already that I am out of luck. 

 I would very much like to install la 4 stroke Rotax but it is my understanding that I would need the X P supplement manual to accomplish this goal. 

 

 If anyone could be so kind as to give me some knowledge and guidance with this issue I would certainly be most appreciative. 

 

 My kit came with composite spars and wooden wing skins. If I need to include any other information please let me know!

 

 Thank you,

 Clyde Oyler

 "Yellowhammer"

 

 --------

 J.M. Oyler

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487072#487072

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:50 am Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

Last wood spar xp was 960 lb irrespective of skin material, most xps ' in uk are 960lb



Sent from my iPad



On 19 Jan 2019, at 15:14, Sonja Englert <paqs345(at)gmail.com (paqs345(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

Hello Clyde,  

   

This topic comes up again and again. The Pulsar 1 with wood wings has a gross weight of 900 lb, vs 1060 lb for the Pulsar XP. If you installed a Rotax 912 without any modifications, you would turn it into a single seater.   

   

I have done the analysis and documentation to modify the Pulsar 1 structure to XP weight and speed limits, but that includes adding plies to the fuselage skin on the inside, which would be very difficult to impossible with the skin halves already bonded. It also means highly modifying the wings for wing tanks instead of a fuselage tank, and probably increasing the spar structure, although  I don't know what the dimensions are of the composite spars you have. They would have to be measured and either reinforced or you may need to build new spars.  

   

All in all, it probably doubles the amount of work over building the Pulsar as the model it was designed, plus the extra engineering work can get expensive.  

   

Sonja  

paqs345(at)gmail.com (paqs345(at)gmail.com)

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:31 AM Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  --> Pulsar-List message posted by: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)>

 

 Greetings,

 

 I am a new member and I have recently acquired a Pulsar (Kit#277). I have been told that since my fuselage halves have been joined together already that I am out of luck. 

 I would very much like to install la 4 stroke Rotax but it is my understanding that I would need the X P supplement manual to accomplish this goal. 

 

 If anyone could be so kind as to give me some knowledge and guidance with this issue I would certainly be most appreciative. 

 

 My kit came with composite spars and wooden wing skins. If I need to include any other information please let me know!

 

 Thank you,

 Clyde Oyler

 "Yellowhammer"

 

 --------

 J.M. Oyler

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487072#487072

 

 

 

 

 

 

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kulpa(at)att.net
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:28 am Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

The smaller Jabiru, 2200, weighs in at 137 lbs. so you're going to have 

the same issue with it.



Best Regards, Bill

C: 512-415-2991



On 1/18/2019 3:50 PM, Eclat2 wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 It's not just a matter of having the XP assembly manual... you need the XP parts.   While the basic fuselage 'shape' for both the 582 and XP  came out of the same mold, the layup pattern was changed to make the XP fuselage stronger as required to support the greater weight and the higher aerodynamic loads, flutter potential, etc., that go with greater speed.



 If you had the XP parts, then the XP manual would tell you how the assembly steps are different.   But there is no manual or other documentation that will tell you how to convert a 582 fuselage into an XP fuselage... that happened in the mold during manufacture.   And just plunking a Rotax 912 into the front of a 582 isn't wise... that's not what Aero Designs did.



 What is your kit's quoted Gross Weight? (go look for your info, I don't need to know).   For the most part, Gross Weight is determined by wing strength, and that's mostly due to the spar.   Whatever your kit's Gross Weight is won't change when/ if you convert to a Rotax 912, and any weight you add to the plane's Empty Weight during the process will reduce the Useful Load by a similar amount.   All the games you play with your kit must take place under your kit's Gross Weight limit.



 Rotax 912 UL . = 60.9 kg / 134.2 lbs Installed Weight

 Rotax 912 ULS = 63.8 kg / 140.6 lbs Installed Weight

 Plus bigger prop.



 There are owners here who have converted a 582 to a Jabiru or Camit 2200 flat-4, air-cooled engine.   Perhaps one of them can provide you with some insight on that conversion.   But it's a big project that transcends just having the correct manual... and it doesn't have a manual.



 Some early composite spars were incorrectly manufactured, and are not air-worthy.   I don't know how to tell good from bad, but do make certain you have a good spar before proceeding with wing assembly.



 The Pulsar Aviators group over on YahooGroups has a "Files" section that contains a lot of supporting documentation, including PDFs of some manuals.   I believe much of the XP manual is there.   Subscribe there, and check it out.



 Good luck,

 Tim





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487080#487080

Yellowhammer

Joined: 21 Mar 2018
Posts: 101
Location: Franklinton, Louisiana

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:57 am Post subject: Re: New Member Pulsar Builder

 	  kulpa(at)att.net wrote: 	
		  The smaller Jabiru, 2200, weighs in at 137 lbs. so you're going to have 

the same issue with it.



Best Regards, Bill

C: 512-415-2991



On 1/18/2019 3:50 PM, Eclat2 wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 It's not just a matter of having the XP assembly manual... you need the XP parts.   While the basic fuselage 'shape' for both the 582 and XP  came out of the same mold, the layup pattern was changed to make the XP fuselage stronger as required to support the greater weight and the higher aerodynamic loads, flutter potential, etc., that go with greater speed.



 If you had the XP parts, then the XP manual would tell you how the assembly steps are different.   But there is no manual or other documentation that will tell you how to convert a 582 fuselage into an XP fuselage... that happened in the mold during manufacture.   And just plunking a Rotax 912 into the front of a 582 isn't wise... that's not what Aero Designs did.



 What is your kit's quoted Gross Weight? (go look for your info, I don't need to know).   For the most part, Gross Weight is determined by wing strength, and that's mostly due to the spar.   Whatever your kit's Gross Weight is won't change when/ if you convert to a Rotax 912, and any weight you add to the plane's Empty Weight during the process will reduce the Useful Load by a similar amount.   All the games you play with your kit must take place under your kit's Gross Weight limit.



 Rotax 912 UL . = 60.9 kg / 134.2 lbs Installed Weight

 Rotax 912 ULS = 63.8 kg / 140.6 lbs Installed Weight

 Plus bigger prop.



 There are owners here who have converted a 582 to a Jabiru or Camit 2200 flat-4, air-cooled engine.   Perhaps one of them can provide you with some insight on that conversion.   But it's a big project that transcends just having the correct manual... and it doesn't have a manual.



 Some early composite spars were incorrectly manufactured, and are not air-worthy.   I don't know how to tell good from bad, but do make certain you have a good spar before proceeding with wing assembly.



 The Pulsar Aviators group over on YahooGroups has a "Files" section that contains a lot of supporting documentation, including PDFs of some manuals.   I believe much of the XP manual is there.   Subscribe there, and check it out.



 Good luck,

 Tim





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487080#487080

Mr. Bill,



Thank you for your input sir. I really appreciate it! I will not deviate from the plans at all. Before I get into the meat of the build I want to know every single thing I can about this project. 



Although Aero Designs is no longer available I feel much more at rest knowing I have such a wonderful group of veterans to fall back when I have an issue. 



Thanks,

Clyde

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Yellowhammer

Joined: 21 Mar 2018
Posts: 101
Location: Franklinton, Louisiana

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:46 am Post subject: Re: New Member Pulsar Builder

Fellow Member's,



First, I want to thank each and every one who has replied to my questions. I am so blessed to have found such a group of people that are as willing to help as you all have been!



I tried to respond to each one of your posts but somehow I was not allowed to do it so I am responding to everyone with this reply.



First of all thank you to each of you that have replied to my questions. No words could express my gratitude.



Engine Selection:



I will only be installing an approved engine. That will be the Rotax 582 at this point unless there is a miracle out there I don't know about. 

Spar:



My Spar is a composite. 

(The gentleman I acquired the kit from i a retired F-16 and Delta Airlines pilot. He completed less than 10 percent of the build.

Basically all he had done was join the fuselage halves, cut all the bulkheads, and completed the Vertical Stabilizer.).

I have checked for any defects personally and have determined the spars both fit for service.



Wing Skins:



I have the wooden Wing Skins.



Ribs: 

Blue type but will substitute for the brown type (clegicell). 



Landing Gear Configuration:

I will be employing the Tricycle type. 



Nose Gear:



I will not be using the stock nose gear. I have read too many horror stories about them and one member suggested that I contact Kitfox  as a reliable substitute and the member also said that it would be most difficult to find the later design the Aero Designs began to use. 

Any thoughts on this subject will be most appreciated! 



Re: Sonja Englert:



I have spoken with Ms./Mrs. Englert on two occasions via email regarding the conversion to the 912. She has told me the same thing and I value and respect her input as well. 



Note:



I will be following the plans so I can build with confidence! I have received some VERY valuable and useful information regarding some additional things some builders have done to their Pulsar's and I am very happy to have been educated on these matters.



More Question's:



Does anyone know the size limits or limitations of the add on windows I have seen most Pulsar builders incorporate over the baggage compartment?



I would certainly like to make them as large as the design will allow. I am very ignorant on the subject and all the information I have gathered have been through the years of Pulsar Newsletters I acquired along with my kit. 



The main reason I would like to install the largest windows allowable is for added visibility. I learned to fly in the Evektor Sportstar which has the best visibility of any aircraft I have ever flown in making clearing turns a non issue. 



Any and all thoughts, words, of wisdom, and or guidance will certainly be appreciated. 



Again, Thaks to everyone for their support and willingness to take the time to help me out! 



Clyde Oyler

"Yellowhammer"

_________________
J.M. Oyler "Clyde"

n3300p(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:20 pm Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

Clyde,

Iâ€™d like to contribute but my files are hard to get to and itâ€™s been several years since I sold my kit. I do recall some 582 kits being converted to 912. Initially, I think there were few upgrades but as has been pointed out over some time changes were made like additional plies of fiberglass on certain areas of the fuselage. I want to say that two plies of 9 ounce were added around the cockpit sides and some uni like tapes were added to the forward sides...but donâ€™t quite trust those old brain cells...need to find my notes. After several 912â€™s were flying a cracking issue came up where the vertical attaches to the fuselage and additional plies were called for there. This was beefed up again with the Pulsar II / III with the spar in the vertical stabilizer extended to reach and be bonded to the floor of the fuselage. The reason discovered for the cracking was because the 912 starter produced a jerk with its increased starter torque which ended in the tail shaking the vertical side to side causing the cracking.



The composite spars as I recall were developed for the 912 kit and with time were used in all the kits. I actually have a spare composite wing skin. Not sure if just one side like the top or bottom or one side both top and bottom...have to check. 



I have a complete 912 firewall forward with cowls radiators etc. I have a jabiru 2200 mount and cowls. Wheel pants and other Pulsar stuff all in deep storage....and havenâ€™t completely given up on building a Pulsar someday myself....



 Gregg Smith converted from a 582 to a 2200 and I believe there is a video where he discusses this at length...https://youtu.be/reIlSdj0xOg 



I think it is the perfect replacement for the 582 two cycle, it not having gear reduction and sounds more like an aircraft than a mixer;)



If you are able to talk to Mark Brown he would prolly be the best source of how your serial number was built as in schedule of plies and such and with figuring out how to upgrade if needed for the 912. 



Donâ€™t get big like I did while building my Pulsar else you will find the plane shrunk and you barely can get into it...



Iâ€™ll try and find my notes and get back but it may take some time

Best of luck,

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net> wrote:






Fellow Member's,



First, I want to thank each and every one who has replied to my questions. I am so blessed to have found such a group of people that are as willing to help as you all have been!



I tried to respond to each one of your posts but somehow I was not allowed to do it so I am responding to everyone with this reply.



First of all thank you to each of you that have replied to my questions. No words could express my gratitude.



Engine Selection:



I will only be installing an approved engine. That will be the Rotax 582 at this point unless there is a miracle out there I don't know about. 

Spar:



My Spar is a composite. 

(The gentleman I acquired the kit from i a retired F-16 and Delta Airlines pilot. He completed less than 10 percent of the build.

Basically all he had done was join the fuselage halves, cut all the bulkheads, and completed the Vertical Stabilizer.).

I have checked for any defects personally and have determined the spars both fit for service.



Wing Skins:



I have the wooden Wing Skins.



Ribs: 

Blue type but will substitute for the brown type (clegicell). 



Landing Gear Configuration:

I will be employing the Tricycle type. 



Nose Gear:



I will not be using the stock nose gear. I have read too many horror stories about them and one member suggested that I contact Kitfox  as a reliable substitute and the member also said that it would be most difficult to find the later design the Aero Designs began to use. 

Any thoughts on this subject will be most appreciated! 



Re: Sonja Englert:



I have spoken with Ms./Mrs. Englert on two occasions via email regarding the conversion to the 912. She has told me the same thing and I value and respect her input as well. 



Note:



I will be following the plans so I can build with confidence! I have received some VERY valuable and useful information regarding some additional things some builders have done to their Pulsar's and I am very happy to have been educated on these matters.



More Question's:



Does anyone know the size limits or limitations of the add on windows I have seen most Pulsar builders incorporate over the baggage compartment?



I would certainly like to make them as large as the design will allow. I am very ignorant on the subject and all the information I have gathered have been through the years of Pulsar Newsletters I acquired along with my kit. 



The main reason I would like to install the largest windows allowable is for added visibility. I learned to fly in the Evektor Sportstar which has the best visibility of any aircraft I have ever flown in making clearing turns a non issue. 



Any and all thoughts, words, of wisdom, and or guidance will certainly be appreciated. 



Again, Thaks to everyone for their support and willingness to take the time to help me out! 



Clyde Oyler

"Yellowhammer"



--------

J.M. Oyler





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487210#487210

n3300p(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:31 pm Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

Clyde,

Years ago I started a yahoo Pulsar Group and there were lots of good files and pictures on it. I just checked and it is still there although inactive. You might want to take a look as there is some good info there 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders

Let me know if you have any problems logging into it

Here are pictures of pulsars, articles and factory brochures

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders/photos/photostream

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:19 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Clyde,

Iâ€™d like to contribute but my files are hard to get to and itâ€™s been several years since I sold my kit. I do recall some 582 kits being converted to 912. Initially, I think there were few upgrades but as has been pointed out over some time changes were made like additional plies of fiberglass on certain areas of the fuselage. I want to say that two plies of 9 ounce were added around the cockpit sides and some uni like tapes were added to the forward sides...but donâ€™t quite trust those old brain cells...need to find my notes. After several 912â€™s were flying a cracking issue came up where the vertical attaches to the fuselage and additional plies were called for there. This was beefed up again with the Pulsar II / III with the spar in the vertical stabilizer extended to reach and be bonded to the floor of the fuselage. The reason discovered for the cracking was because the 912 starter produced a jerk with its increased starter torque which ended in the tail shaking the vertical side to side causing the cracking.



The composite spars as I recall were developed for the 912 kit and with time were used in all the kits. I actually have a spare composite wing skin. Not sure if just one side like the top or bottom or one side both top and bottom...have to check. 



I have a complete 912 firewall forward with cowls radiators etc. I have a jabiru 2200 mount and cowls. Wheel pants and other Pulsar stuff all in deep storage....and havenâ€™t completely given up on building a Pulsar someday myself....



 Gregg Smith converted from a 582 to a 2200 and I believe there is a video where he discusses this at length...https://youtu.be/reIlSdj0xOg 



I think it is the perfect replacement for the 582 two cycle, it not having gear reduction and sounds more like an aircraft than a mixer;)



If you are able to talk to Mark Brown he would prolly be the best source of how your serial number was built as in schedule of plies and such and with figuring out how to upgrade if needed for the 912. 



Donâ€™t get big like I did while building my Pulsar else you will find the plane shrunk and you barely can get into it...



Iâ€™ll try and find my notes and get back but it may take some time

Best of luck,

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)> wrote:



--> Pulsar-List message posted by: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)>



Fellow Member's,



First, I want to thank each and every one who has replied to my questions. I am so blessed to have found such a group of people that are as willing to help as you all have been!



I tried to respond to each one of your posts but somehow I was not allowed to do it so I am responding to everyone with this reply.



First of all thank you to each of you that have replied to my questions. No words could express my gratitude.



Engine Selection:



I will only be installing an approved engine. That will be the Rotax 582 at this point unless there is a miracle out there I don't know about. 

Spar:



My Spar is a composite. 

(The gentleman I acquired the kit from i a retired F-16 and Delta Airlines pilot. He completed less than 10 percent of the build.

Basically all he had done was join the fuselage halves, cut all the bulkheads, and completed the Vertical Stabilizer.).

I have checked for any defects personally and have determined the spars both fit for service.



Wing Skins:



I have the wooden Wing Skins.



Ribs: 

Blue type but will substitute for the brown type (clegicell). 



Landing Gear Configuration:

I will be employing the Tricycle type. 



Nose Gear:



I will not be using the stock nose gear. I have read too many horror stories about them and one member suggested that I contact Kitfox  as a reliable substitute and the member also said that it would be most difficult to find the later design the Aero Designs began to use. 

Any thoughts on this subject will be most appreciated! 



Re: Sonja Englert:



I have spoken with Ms./Mrs. Englert on two occasions via email regarding the conversion to the 912. She has told me the same thing and I value and respect her input as well. 



Note:



I will be following the plans so I can build with confidence! I have received some VERY valuable and useful information regarding some additional things some builders have done to their Pulsar's and I am very happy to have been educated on these matters.



More Question's:



Does anyone know the size limits or limitations of the add on windows I have seen most Pulsar builders incorporate over the baggage compartment?



I would certainly like to make them as large as the design will allow. I am very ignorant on the subject and all the information I have gathered have been through the years of Pulsar Newsletters I acquired along with my kit. 



The main reason I would like to install the largest windows allowable is for added visibility. I learned to fly in the Evektor Sportstar which has the best visibility of any aircraft I have ever flown in making clearing turns a non issue. 



Any and all thoughts, words, of wisdom, and or guidance will certainly be appreciated. 



Again, Thaks to everyone for their support and willingness to take the time to help me out! 



Clyde Oyler

"Yellowhammer"



--------

J.M. Oyler





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Example of a picture on the old yahoo site this of a support gusset for countering the starter torque caused cracking 

[img]cid:4D391576-4115-4BD9-BA20-4D9A840756F2[/img]



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:29 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



Clyde,

Years ago I started a yahoo Pulsar Group and there were lots of good files and pictures on it. I just checked and it is still there although inactive. You might want to take a look as there is some good info there 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders

Let me know if you have any problems logging into it

Here are pictures of pulsars, articles and factory brochures

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders/photos/photostream

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:19 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Clyde,

Iâ€™d like to contribute but my files are hard to get to and itâ€™s been several years since I sold my kit. I do recall some 582 kits being converted to 912. Initially, I think there were few upgrades but as has been pointed out over some time changes were made like additional plies of fiberglass on certain areas of the fuselage. I want to say that two plies of 9 ounce were added around the cockpit sides and some uni like tapes were added to the forward sides...but donâ€™t quite trust those old brain cells...need to find my notes. After several 912â€™s were flying a cracking issue came up where the vertical attaches to the fuselage and additional plies were called for there. This was beefed up again with the Pulsar II / III with the spar in the vertical stabilizer extended to reach and be bonded to the floor of the fuselage. The reason discovered for the cracking was because the 912 starter produced a jerk with its increased starter torque which ended in the tail shaking the vertical side to side causing the cracking.



The composite spars as I recall were developed for the 912 kit and with time were used in all the kits. I actually have a spare composite wing skin. Not sure if just one side like the top or bottom or one side both top and bottom...have to check. 



I have a complete 912 firewall forward with cowls radiators etc. I have a jabiru 2200 mount and cowls. Wheel pants and other Pulsar stuff all in deep storage....and havenâ€™t completely given up on building a Pulsar someday myself....



 Gregg Smith converted from a 582 to a 2200 and I believe there is a video where he discusses this at length...https://youtu.be/reIlSdj0xOg 



I think it is the perfect replacement for the 582 two cycle, it not having gear reduction and sounds more like an aircraft than a mixer;)



If you are able to talk to Mark Brown he would prolly be the best source of how your serial number was built as in schedule of plies and such and with figuring out how to upgrade if needed for the 912. 



Donâ€™t get big like I did while building my Pulsar else you will find the plane shrunk and you barely can get into it...



Iâ€™ll try and find my notes and get back but it may take some time

Best of luck,

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)> wrote:



--> Pulsar-List message posted by: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)>



Fellow Member's,



First, I want to thank each and every one who has replied to my questions. I am so blessed to have found such a group of people that are as willing to help as you all have been!



I tried to respond to each one of your posts but somehow I was not allowed to do it so I am responding to everyone with this reply.



First of all thank you to each of you that have replied to my questions. No words could express my gratitude.



Engine Selection:



I will only be installing an approved engine. That will be the Rotax 582 at this point unless there is a miracle out there I don't know about. 

Spar:



My Spar is a composite. 

(The gentleman I acquired the kit from i a retired F-16 and Delta Airlines pilot. He completed less than 10 percent of the build.

Basically all he had done was join the fuselage halves, cut all the bulkheads, and completed the Vertical Stabilizer.).

I have checked for any defects personally and have determined the spars both fit for service.



Wing Skins:



I have the wooden Wing Skins.



Ribs: 

Blue type but will substitute for the brown type (clegicell). 



Landing Gear Configuration:

I will be employing the Tricycle type. 



Nose Gear:



I will not be using the stock nose gear. I have read too many horror stories about them and one member suggested that I contact Kitfox  as a reliable substitute and the member also said that it would be most difficult to find the later design the Aero Designs began to use. 

Any thoughts on this subject will be most appreciated! 



Re: Sonja Englert:



I have spoken with Ms./Mrs. Englert on two occasions via email regarding the conversion to the 912. She has told me the same thing and I value and respect her input as well. 



Note:



I will be following the plans so I can build with confidence! I have received some VERY valuable and useful information regarding some additional things some builders have done to their Pulsar's and I am very happy to have been educated on these matters.



More Question's:



Does anyone know the size limits or limitations of the add on windows I have seen most Pulsar builders incorporate over the baggage compartment?



I would certainly like to make them as large as the design will allow. I am very ignorant on the subject and all the information I have gathered have been through the years of Pulsar Newsletters I acquired along with my kit. 



The main reason I would like to install the largest windows allowable is for added visibility. I learned to fly in the Evektor Sportstar which has the best visibility of any aircraft I have ever flown in making clearing turns a non issue. 



Any and all thoughts, words, of wisdom, and or guidance will certainly be appreciated. 



Again, Thaks to everyone for their support and willingness to take the time to help me out! 



Clyde Oyler

"Yellowhammer"



--------

J.M. Oyler





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Here is the Aero Designs original marketing video

https://youtu.be/y8laPh_Sw1k



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:32 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



Example of a picture on the old yahoo site this of a support gusset for countering the starter torque caused cracking 

[img]cid:4D391576-4115-4BD9-BA20-4D9A840756F2[/img]



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:29 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



Clyde,

Years ago I started a yahoo Pulsar Group and there were lots of good files and pictures on it. I just checked and it is still there although inactive. You might want to take a look as there is some good info there 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders

Let me know if you have any problems logging into it

Here are pictures of pulsars, articles and factory brochures

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders/photos/photostream

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:19 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Clyde,

Iâ€™d like to contribute but my files are hard to get to and itâ€™s been several years since I sold my kit. I do recall some 582 kits being converted to 912. Initially, I think there were few upgrades but as has been pointed out over some time changes were made like additional plies of fiberglass on certain areas of the fuselage. I want to say that two plies of 9 ounce were added around the cockpit sides and some uni like tapes were added to the forward sides...but donâ€™t quite trust those old brain cells...need to find my notes. After several 912â€™s were flying a cracking issue came up where the vertical attaches to the fuselage and additional plies were called for there. This was beefed up again with the Pulsar II / III with the spar in the vertical stabilizer extended to reach and be bonded to the floor of the fuselage. The reason discovered for the cracking was because the 912 starter produced a jerk with its increased starter torque which ended in the tail shaking the vertical side to side causing the cracking.



The composite spars as I recall were developed for the 912 kit and with time were used in all the kits. I actually have a spare composite wing skin. Not sure if just one side like the top or bottom or one side both top and bottom...have to check. 



I have a complete 912 firewall forward with cowls radiators etc. I have a jabiru 2200 mount and cowls. Wheel pants and other Pulsar stuff all in deep storage....and havenâ€™t completely given up on building a Pulsar someday myself....



 Gregg Smith converted from a 582 to a 2200 and I believe there is a video where he discusses this at length...https://youtu.be/reIlSdj0xOg 



I think it is the perfect replacement for the 582 two cycle, it not having gear reduction and sounds more like an aircraft than a mixer;)



If you are able to talk to Mark Brown he would prolly be the best source of how your serial number was built as in schedule of plies and such and with figuring out how to upgrade if needed for the 912. 



Donâ€™t get big like I did while building my Pulsar else you will find the plane shrunk and you barely can get into it...



Iâ€™ll try and find my notes and get back but it may take some time

Best of luck,

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)> wrote:



--> Pulsar-List message posted by: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)>



Fellow Member's,



First, I want to thank each and every one who has replied to my questions. I am so blessed to have found such a group of people that are as willing to help as you all have been!



I tried to respond to each one of your posts but somehow I was not allowed to do it so I am responding to everyone with this reply.



First of all thank you to each of you that have replied to my questions. No words could express my gratitude.



Engine Selection:



I will only be installing an approved engine. That will be the Rotax 582 at this point unless there is a miracle out there I don't know about. 

Spar:



My Spar is a composite. 

(The gentleman I acquired the kit from i a retired F-16 and Delta Airlines pilot. He completed less than 10 percent of the build.

Basically all he had done was join the fuselage halves, cut all the bulkheads, and completed the Vertical Stabilizer.).

I have checked for any defects personally and have determined the spars both fit for service.



Wing Skins:



I have the wooden Wing Skins.



Ribs: 

Blue type but will substitute for the brown type (clegicell). 



Landing Gear Configuration:

I will be employing the Tricycle type. 



Nose Gear:



I will not be using the stock nose gear. I have read too many horror stories about them and one member suggested that I contact Kitfox  as a reliable substitute and the member also said that it would be most difficult to find the later design the Aero Designs began to use. 

Any thoughts on this subject will be most appreciated! 



Re: Sonja Englert:



I have spoken with Ms./Mrs. Englert on two occasions via email regarding the conversion to the 912. She has told me the same thing and I value and respect her input as well. 



Note:



I will be following the plans so I can build with confidence! I have received some VERY valuable and useful information regarding some additional things some builders have done to their Pulsar's and I am very happy to have been educated on these matters.



More Question's:



Does anyone know the size limits or limitations of the add on windows I have seen most Pulsar builders incorporate over the baggage compartment?



I would certainly like to make them as large as the design will allow. I am very ignorant on the subject and all the information I have gathered have been through the years of Pulsar Newsletters I acquired along with my kit. 



The main reason I would like to install the largest windows allowable is for added visibility. I learned to fly in the Evektor Sportstar which has the best visibility of any aircraft I have ever flown in making clearing turns a non issue. 



Any and all thoughts, words, of wisdom, and or guidance will certainly be appreciated. 



Again, Thaks to everyone for their support and willingness to take the time to help me out! 



Clyde Oyler

"Yellowhammer"



--------

J.M. Oyler





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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:46 pm Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

Yellowhammer,



Where are you located?



Jim



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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:30 pm Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

Clyde, Here is the SPAR SERVICE BULLETIN #50.   See Attachment.   Below

                  

                                                                    On â€ŽWednesdayâ€Ž, â€ŽJanuaryâ€Ž â€Ž23â€Ž, â€Ž2019â€Ž â€Ž02â€Ž:â€Ž55â€Ž:â€Ž45â€Ž â€ŽPMâ€Ž â€ŽEST, Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net> wrote:                 

                 



                 



                 --> Pulsar-List message posted by: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)>



Fellow Member's,



First, I want to thank each and every one who has replied to my questions. I am so blessed to have found such a group of people that are as willing to help as you all have been!



I tried to respond to each one of your posts but somehow I was not allowed to do it so I am responding to everyone with this reply.



First of all thank you to each of you that have replied to my questions. No words could express my gratitude.



Engine Selection:



I will only be installing an approved engine. That will be the Rotax 582 at this point unless there is a miracle out there I don't know about. 



Spar:



My Spar is a composite. 



(The gentleman I acquired the kit from i a retired F-16 and Delta Airlines pilot. He completed less than 10 percent of the build.



Basically all he had done was join the fuselage halves, cut all the bulkheads, and completed the Vertical Stabilizer.).



I have checked for any defects personally and have determined the spars both fit for service.



Wing Skins:



I have the wooden Wing Skins.



Ribs: 



Blue type but will substitute for the brown type (clegicell). 



Landing Gear Configuration:



I will be employing the Tricycle type. 



Nose Gear:



I will not be using the stock nose gear. I have read too many horror stories about them and one member suggested that I contact Kitfox  as a reliable substitute and the member also said that it would be most difficult to find the later design the Aero Designs began to use. 



Any thoughts on this subject will be most appreciated! 



Re: Sonja Englert:



I have spoken with Ms./Mrs. Englert on two occasions via email regarding the conversion to the 912. She has told me the same thing and I value and respect her input as well. 



Note:



I will be following the plans so I can build with confidence! I have received some VERY valuable and useful information regarding some additional things some builders have done to their Pulsar's and I am very happy to have been educated on these matters.



More Question's:



Does anyone know the size limits or limitations of the add on windows I have seen most Pulsar builders incorporate over the baggage compartment?



I would certainly like to make them as large as the design will allow. I am very ignorant on the subject and all the information I have gathered have been through the years of Pulsar Newsletters I acquired along with my kit. 



The main reason I would like to install the largest windows allowable is for added visibility. I learned to fly in the Evektor Sportstar which has the best visibility of any aircraft I have ever flown in making clearing turns a non issue. 



Any and all thoughts, words, of wisdom, and or guidance will certainly be appreciated. 



Again, Thaks to everyone for their support and willingness to take the time to help me out! 



Clyde Oyler



"Yellowhammer"



--------



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Re fin cracking: I used the composite fin spar and omitted the uni reinforced bulkhead,linking down to the bottom of the fuselage is a much better engineering solution ,the standard build can only be as strong as the bond between the various skin layers and the core material, which when you work with the bulkheads etc you'll find can be peeled of quite easily.



Sent from my iPad



On 23 Jan 2019, at 20:29, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

Clyde,

Years ago I started a yahoo Pulsar Group and there were lots of good files and pictures on it. I just checked and it is still there although inactive. You might want to take a look as there is some good info there 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders

Let me know if you have any problems logging into it

Here are pictures of pulsars, articles and factory brochures

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders/photos/photostream

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:19 PM, N3300P <n3300p(at)gmail.com (n3300p(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Clyde,

Iâ€™d like to contribute but my files are hard to get to and itâ€™s been several years since I sold my kit. I do recall some 582 kits being converted to 912. Initially, I think there were few upgrades but as has been pointed out over some time changes were made like additional plies of fiberglass on certain areas of the fuselage. I want to say that two plies of 9 ounce were added around the cockpit sides and some uni like tapes were added to the forward sides...but donâ€™t quite trust those old brain cells...need to find my notes. After several 912â€™s were flying a cracking issue came up where the vertical attaches to the fuselage and additional plies were called for there. This was beefed up again with the Pulsar II / III with the spar in the vertical stabilizer extended to reach and be bonded to the floor of the fuselage. The reason discovered for the cracking was because the 912 starter produced a jerk with its increased starter torque which ended in the tail shaking the vertical side to side causing the cracking.



The composite spars as I recall were developed for the 912 kit and with time were used in all the kits. I actually have a spare composite wing skin. Not sure if just one side like the top or bottom or one side both top and bottom...have to check. 



I have a complete 912 firewall forward with cowls radiators etc. I have a jabiru 2200 mount and cowls. Wheel pants and other Pulsar stuff all in deep storage....and havenâ€™t completely given up on building a Pulsar someday myself....



 Gregg Smith converted from a 582 to a 2200 and I believe there is a video where he discusses this at length...https://youtu.be/reIlSdj0xOg 



I think it is the perfect replacement for the 582 two cycle, it not having gear reduction and sounds more like an aircraft than a mixer;)



If you are able to talk to Mark Brown he would prolly be the best source of how your serial number was built as in schedule of plies and such and with figuring out how to upgrade if needed for the 912. 



Donâ€™t get big like I did while building my Pulsar else you will find the plane shrunk and you barely can get into it...



Iâ€™ll try and find my notes and get back but it may take some time

Best of luck,

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Yellowhammer <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)> wrote:



--> Pulsar-List message posted by: "Yellowhammer" <coyler(at)sthpk-12.net (coyler(at)sthpk-12.net)>



Fellow Member's,



First, I want to thank each and every one who has replied to my questions. I am so blessed to have found such a group of people that are as willing to help as you all have been!



I tried to respond to each one of your posts but somehow I was not allowed to do it so I am responding to everyone with this reply.



First of all thank you to each of you that have replied to my questions. No words could express my gratitude.



Engine Selection:



I will only be installing an approved engine. That will be the Rotax 582 at this point unless there is a miracle out there I don't know about. 

Spar:



My Spar is a composite. 

(The gentleman I acquired the kit from i a retired F-16 and Delta Airlines pilot. He completed less than 10 percent of the build.

Basically all he had done was join the fuselage halves, cut all the bulkheads, and completed the Vertical Stabilizer.).

I have checked for any defects personally and have determined the spars both fit for service.



Wing Skins:



I have the wooden Wing Skins.



Ribs: 

Blue type but will substitute for the brown type (clegicell). 



Landing Gear Configuration:

I will be employing the Tricycle type. 



Nose Gear:



I will not be using the stock nose gear. I have read too many horror stories about them and one member suggested that I contact Kitfox  as a reliable substitute and the member also said that it would be most difficult to find the later design the Aero Designs began to use. 

Any thoughts on this subject will be most appreciated! 



Re: Sonja Englert:



I have spoken with Ms./Mrs. Englert on two occasions via email regarding the conversion to the 912. She has told me the same thing and I value and respect her input as well. 



Note:



I will be following the plans so I can build with confidence! I have received some VERY valuable and useful information regarding some additional things some builders have done to their Pulsar's and I am very happy to have been educated on these matters.



More Question's:



Does anyone know the size limits or limitations of the add on windows I have seen most Pulsar builders incorporate over the baggage compartment?



I would certainly like to make them as large as the design will allow. I am very ignorant on the subject and all the information I have gathered have been through the years of Pulsar Newsletters I acquired along with my kit. 



The main reason I would like to install the largest windows allowable is for added visibility. I learned to fly in the Evektor Sportstar which has the best visibility of any aircraft I have ever flown in making clearing turns a non issue. 



Any and all thoughts, words, of wisdom, and or guidance will certainly be appreciated. 



Again, Thaks to everyone for their support and willingness to take the time to help me out! 



Clyde Oyler

"Yellowhammer"



--------

J.M. Oyler





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=487210#487210



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Posts: 101
Location: Franklinton, Louisiana

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:26 am Post subject: Re: New Member Pulsar Builder

 	  pilot623(at)gmail.com wrote: 	
		  Yellowhammer,



Where are you located?



Jim



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Mr. Jim,



I am located in Franklinton, Louisiana. About 50 mies due north of New Orleans.

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Yellowhammer

Joined: 21 Mar 2018
Posts: 101
Location: Franklinton, Louisiana

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:30 am Post subject: Re: New Member Pulsar Builder

 	  n3300p(at)gmail.com wrote: 	
		  Here is the Aero Designs original marketing video

https://youtu.be/y8laPh_Sw1k



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:32 PM, N3300P <n3300p> wrote:



Example of a picture on the old yahoo site this of a support gusset for countering the starter torque caused cracking 

[img]cid:4D391576-4115-4BD9-BA20-4D9A840756F2[/img]



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:29 PM, N3300P <n3300p> wrote:



Clyde,

Years ago I started a yahoo Pulsar Group and there were lots of good files and pictures on it. I just checked and it is still there although inactive. You might want to take a look as there is some good info there 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders

Let me know if you have any problems logging into it

Here are pictures of pulsars, articles and factory brochures

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders/photos/photostream

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 2:19 PM, N3300P <n3300p> wrote:

Clyde,

Iâ€™d like to contribute but my files are hard to get to and itâ€™s been several years since I sold my kit. I do recall some 582 kits being converted to 912. Initially, I think there were few upgrades but as has been pointed out over some time changes were made like additional plies of fiberglass on certain areas of the fuselage. I want to say that two plies of 9 ounce were added around the cockpit sides and some uni like tapes were added to the forward sides...but donâ€™t quite trust those old brain cells...need to find my notes. After several 912â€™s were flying a cracking issue came up where the vertical attaches to the fuselage and additional plies were called for there. This was beefed up again with the Pulsar II / III with the spar in the vertical stabilizer extended to reach and be bonded to the floor of the fuselage. The reason discovered for the cracking was because the 912 starter produced a jerk with its increased starter torque which ended in the tail shaking the vertical side to side causing the cracking.



The composite spars as I recall were developed for the 912 kit and with time were used in all the kits. I actually have a spare composite wing skin. Not sure if just one side like the top or bottom or one side both top and bottom...have to check. 



I have a complete 912 firewall forward with cowls radiators etc. I have a jabiru 2200 mount and cowls. Wheel pants and other Pulsar stuff all in deep storage....and havenâ€™t completely given up on building a Pulsar someday myself....



 Gregg Smith converted from a 582 to a 2200 and I believe there is a video where he discusses this at length...https://youtu.be/reIlSdj0xOg 



I think it is the perfect replacement for the 582 two cycle, it not having gear reduction and sounds more like an aircraft than a mixer;)



If you are able to talk to Mark Brown he would prolly be the best source of how your serial number was built as in schedule of plies and such and with figuring out how to upgrade if needed for the 912. 



Donâ€™t get big like I did while building my Pulsar else you will find the plane shrunk and you barely can get into it...



Iâ€™ll try and find my notes and get back but it may take some time

Best of luck,

Ned



On Jan 23, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Yellowhammer <coyler> wrote:



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Fellow Member's,



First, I want to thank each and every one who has replied to my questions. I am so blessed to have found such a group of people that are as willing to help as you all have been!



I tried to respond to each one of your posts but somehow I was not allowed to do it so I am responding to everyone with this reply.



First of all thank you to each of you that have replied to my questions. No words could express my gratitude.



Engine Selection:



I will only be installing an approved engine. That will be the Rotax 582 at this point unless there is a miracle out there I don't know about. 

Spar:



My Spar is a composite. 

(The gentleman I acquired the kit from i a retired F-16 and Delta Airlines pilot. He completed less than 10 percent of the build.

Basically all he had done was join the fuselage halves, cut all the bulkheads, and completed the Vertical Stabilizer.).

I have checked for any defects personally and have determined the spars both fit for service.



Wing Skins:



I have the wooden Wing Skins.



Ribs: 

Blue type but will substitute for the brown type (clegicell). 



Landing Gear Configuration:

I will be employing the Tricycle type. 



Nose Gear:



I will not be using the stock nose gear. I have read too many horror stories about them and one member suggested that I contact Kitfox  as a reliable substitute and the member also said that it would be most difficult to find the later design the Aero Designs began to use. 

Any thoughts on this subject will be most appreciated! 



Re: Sonja Englert:



I have spoken with Ms./Mrs. Englert on two occasions via email regarding the conversion to the 912. She has told me the same thing and I value and respect her input as well. 



Note:



I will be following the plans so I can build with confidence! I have received some VERY valuable and useful information regarding some additional things some builders have done to their Pulsar's and I am very happy to have been educated on these matters.



More Question's:



Does anyone know the size limits or limitations of the add on windows I have seen most Pulsar builders incorporate over the baggage compartment?



I would certainly like to make them as large as the design will allow. I am very ignorant on the subject and all the information I have gathered have been through the years of Pulsar Newsletters I acquired along with my kit. 



The main reason I would like to install the largest windows allowable is for added visibility. I learned to fly in the Evektor Sportstar which has the best visibility of any aircraft I have ever flown in making clearing turns a non issue. 



Any and all thoughts, words, of wisdom, and or guidance will certainly be appreciated. 



Again, Thaks to everyone for their support and willingness to take the time to help me out! 



Clyde Oyler

"Yellowhammer"



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J.M. Oyler



I have tried and tried to access and join the yahoo group but to no avail,

Any help with that would be appreciated. 

Thanks for all for your help!

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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:29 am Post subject: Re: New Member Pulsar Builder

 	  n3300p(at)gmail.com wrote: 	
		  Years ago I started a yahoo Pulsar Group and there were lots of good files and pictures on it. I just checked and it is still there although inactive. You might want to take a look as there is some good info there 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders

Let me know if you have any problems logging into it 	


"PulsarBuilders" on YahooGroups is non-responsive.   The main page as well as the Files, Photos and Conversations tabs all reply with a blank screen and, "Oops! You need to be a member to perform this action."   But the blank screen provides no option for subscribing/ joining.   If you're the group owner, is there something you can do to kick-start it.



"Pulsar Aviators" on YahooGroups is still operational.   I just now logged in for a browse, and it's all there.



Regards,

Tim

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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:59 am Post subject: New Member Pulsar Builder

Hi Tim,

I attempted to make it a public group but it wasnâ€™t allowed. It did change from private to Restricted which should make it a bit easier to access. We had a lot of trouble with spam back then and that is why it became a private group. Iâ€™ll work with yâ€™all to get the files and pictures copied out then prolly just delete it in the near future. Lots of good info to be shared there 

Please try again and ask to become a member and Iâ€™ll try and prospects ASAP 

Thanks for bringing it to my attention,

Ned

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On Jan 24, 2019, at 11:29 AM, Eclat2 <TSEngel(at)comcast.net (TSEngel(at)comcast.net)> wrote:

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n3300p(at)gmail.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Years ago I started a yahoo Pulsar Group and there were lots of good files and pictures on it. I just checked and it is still there although inactive. You might want to take a look as there is some good info there 

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/PulsarBuilders/files)

Let me know if you have any problems logging into it

	


"PulsarBuilders" on YahooGroups is non-responsive.   The main page as well as the Files, Photos and Conversations tabs all reply with a blank screen and, "Oops! You need to be a member to perform this action."   But the blank screen provides no option for subscribing/ joining.   If you're the group owner, is there something you can do to kick-start it.



"Pulsar Aviators" on YahooGroups is still operational.   I just now logged in for a browse, and it's all there.



Regards,

Tim





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