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lwinger

Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 229
Location: Tustin, CA

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

Before I dive in to learn Autodesk, is there anyone on the list who would be willing to share CAD files (DWG format) of 601XL parts?



This is in preparation for building a full set of 601XL form blanks.



Thanks.

_________________
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Installing fuel system
www.mykitlog.com/lwinger

ihab.awad(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

On 7/20/06, lwinger <larrywinger(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Before I dive in to learn Autodesk, is there anyone on the list who

 would be willing to share CAD files (DWG format) of 601XL parts?

 This is in preparation for building a full set of 601XL form blanks.


	


If this is a common problem, then why doesn't ZAC sponsor a bunch of

builders to work on a CAD solid model of the XL design from which all

sorts of drawings can be produced at will? They could spring for some

licenses of Catia and have some CAD-savvy builders collaborate to

contribute the model in return for the ability to build for free plus

some free manufactured parts or whatever.



In any case, this is not effort that should be duplicated....



Just my 2 cents' worth.



Ihab



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Ihab A.B. Awad, Palo Alto, CA

entecrj(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

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randy(at)shadycreekoutlaw
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

This is not actually a "common" problem...  Only for scratch builders... 

What Larry is needing CAD drawings of, are the forming block blanks for the 

rear wing ribs, nose ribs, bulkheads, firewall...etc.  Kit builders 

shouldn't have a need for these type of drawings, and scratch builders are 

'rare' compared to kit builders.  The plans only give "plotting points" and 

you have to draw patterns to cut your forming blocks by...  In my personal 

experience, I've tended to spend more time plotting the forming blocks than 

making the parts themselves...



Randy





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entecrj(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

sharing cad drawings of forming blocks would not infringe on the copyrights



Russell Johnson



do not archive

admin(at)arachnidrobotics
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

    I've got a full set of Solidworks files if you're interested in any of them.  (Well, nearly a full set.  I'm still working ont he wings).  Let me know what you're looking for, and I'll work up some .DXF prints.



lwinger <larrywinger(at)gmail.com> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lwinger" 



Before I dive in to learn Autodesk, is there anyone on the list who would be willing to share CAD files (DWG format) of 601XL parts?



This is in preparation for building a full set of 601XL form blanks.



Thanks.



--------

Larry Winger

Tustin, CA

601XL plan set 6493 in hand

Workshop nearly complete





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lwinger

Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 229
Location: Tustin, CA

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

Thanks for your offer.  Because I work in an office with a plotter and networked Autodesk stations, I'm going to try to bring in DWG files.  If DXF can be exported to DWG (or imported on my end), that would be great.

   

 In the meantime, I'm actually learning more about Autodesk in a hurry.  Who knows, I may be another resource for the next scratch builder who wants Autodesk files.

  

 If you are willing to send along one file as a sample, I'll be glad to try to convert it.

  

 As usual, the response of the list has been impressive.  I hope I can reciprocate at some future date.

  

 Larry



 

 On 7/20/06, Tom and Bren Henderson <admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)> wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		       I've got a full set of Solidworks files if you're interested in any of them.  (Well, nearly a full set.  I'm still working ont he wings).  Let me know what you're looking for, and I'll work up some .DXF prints.

  



lwinger <larrywinger(at)gmail.com  (larrywinger(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

   	  Quote: 	
		  --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lwinger" 	


 



Before I dive in to learn Autodesk, is there anyone on the list who would be willing to share CAD files (DWG format) of 601XL parts?



This is in preparation for building a full set of 601XL form blanks. 

 Thanks.



--------

Larry Winger

Tustin, CA

601XL plan set 6493 in hand

Workshop nearly complete





Read this topic online 

   	  Quote:

_________________
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Installing fuel system
www.mykitlog.com/lwinger

admin(at)arachnidrobotics
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:51 am Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

    No problem, I'll send a sample file tomorrow.  I can export to nearly any commercial CAD format (including .DWG) from Solidworks.  I was rather surprised to see a post from the original draftsman of the XL drawings.  That's not something I think I would admit to so redily.  I would certainly not have used the tone with which I took his post. 

      The poor guy mentioned the fact that the drawings are copyrighted (I believe that was about the only point he had to make).  Of course they are!  The issue here is not that we want electronic copies of the existing, protected drawings.  Many of us are looking for higher quality, full scale drawings for use as templates, references, etc.  Would you rather plot fifty points on a piece of paper and connect the dots, or click the print button?  I guess I though it was kind of a no-brainer.  

      At any rate, I'll post a file for you tomorrow that will give you an idea of whther or not they'll help you out.  (One of my own, not an illegally reproduced Zenith print!  *sheesh!* lol)



Larry Winger <larrywinger(at)gmail.com> wrote:

   	  Quote: 	
		    Thanks for your offer.  Because I work in an office with a plotter and networked Autodesk stations, I'm going to try to bring in DWG files.  If DXF can be exported to DWG (or imported on my end), that would be great.

   

  In the meantime, I'm actually learning more about Autodesk in a hurry.  Who knows, I may be another resource for the next scratch builder who wants Autodesk files.

   

  If you are willing to send along one file as a sample, I'll be glad to try to convert it.

   

  As usual, the response  of the list has been impressive.  I hope I can reciprocate at some future date.

   

  Larry



 

  On 7/20/06, Tom and Bren Henderson <admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)> wrote:    	  Quote: 	
		        I've got a full set of Solidworks files if you're interested in any of them.  (Well, nearly a full set.  I'm still working ont he wings).  Let me know what you're looking for, and I'll work up some .DXF prints.

  



lwinger <larrywinger(at)gmail.com  (larrywinger(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

     	  Quote: 	
		  --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lwinger" 	


  



Before I dive in to learn Autodesk, is there anyone on the list who would be willing to share CAD files (DWG format) of 601XL parts?



This is in preparation for building a full set of 601XL form blanks. 

  Thanks.



--------

Larry Winger

Tustin, CA

601XL plan set 6493 in hand

Workshop nearly complete





Read this topic online 

     	  Quote:

lwinger

Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 229
Location: Tustin, CA

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

I couldn't agree more.  I actually stayed up (later than I should have) to break through a learning curve on Autodesk.  At this point, I believe I have a handle on how to produce the DWG files, but I'm still interested in the drawings you have produced.  When I complete whatever set I tackle, I'll be glad to reciprocate.  That comes from the fact that my work is not copyrighted! 

  

 I knew the first time I did hand plotting on a form block that CAD drawing was in my future.  Do you use CAD for other parts, like horns?  I'm thinking that would have some value.

  

 Thanks for your response.

  

 Larry



 

 On 7/21/06, Tom and Bren Henderson <admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)> wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		        No problem, I'll send a sample file tomorrow.  I can export to nearly any commercial CAD format (including .DWG) from Solidworks.  I was rather surprised to see a post from the original draftsman of the XL drawings.  That's not something I think I would admit to so redily.  I would certainly not have used the tone with which I took his post.  

     The poor guy mentioned the fact that the drawings are copyrighted (I believe that was about the only point he had to make).  Of course they are!  The issue here is not that we want electronic copies of the existing, protected drawings.  Many of us are looking for higher quality, full scale drawings for use as templates, references, etc.  Would you rather plot fifty points on a piece of paper and connect the dots, or click the print button?  I guess I though it was kind of a no-brainer.   

    At any rate, I'll post a file for you tomorrow that will give you an idea of whther or not they'll help you out.  (One of my own, not an illegally reproduced Zenith print!  *sheesh!* lol)

 



Larry Winger < larrywinger(at)gmail.com (larrywinger(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 



   	  Quote: 	
		   Thanks for your offer.  Because I work in an office with a plotter and networked Autodesk stations, I'm going to try to bring in DWG files.  If DXF can be exported to DWG (or imported on my end), that would be great. 

  

 In the meantime, I'm actually learning more about Autodesk in a hurry.  Who knows, I may be another resource for the next scratch builder who wants Autodesk files.

  

 If you are willing to send along one file as a sample, I'll be glad to try to convert it.

  

 As usual, the response of the list has been impressive.  I hope I can reciprocate at some future date.

  

 Larry



 

 On 7/20/06, Tom and Bren Henderson < admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)> wrote:   	  Quote: 	
		       I've got a full set of Solidworks files if you're interested in any of them.  (Well, nearly a full set.  I'm still working ont he wings).  Let me know what you're looking for, and I'll work up some .DXF prints.

  



lwinger < larrywinger(at)gmail.com  (larrywinger(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

   	  Quote: 	
		  --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lwinger" 	


 



Before I dive in to learn Autodesk, is there anyone on the list who would be willing to share CAD files (DWG format) of 601XL parts?



This is in preparation for building a full set of 601XL form blanks.  

 Thanks.



--------

Larry Winger

Tustin, CA

601XL plan set 6493 in hand

Workshop nearly complete





Read this topic online 

   	  Quote:

_________________
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Installing fuel system
www.mykitlog.com/lwinger

admin(at)arachnidrobotics
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

    I used Solidworks to fabricate all the parts in the kit.  I use it to export G-Code to our CNC punches.  You'd love the way everything goes together right out of the shop.  I haven't worked up drawings on many of the parts though.  Generally I just create a solid model and export from that.  



Larry Winger <larrywinger(at)gmail.com> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		   I couldn't agree more.  I actually stayed up (later than I should have) to break through a learning curve on Autodesk.  At this point, I believe I have a handle on how to produce the DWG files, but I'm still interested in the drawings you have produced.  When I complete whatever set I tackle, I'll be glad to reciprocate.  That comes from the fact that my work is not copyrighted! 

  

 I knew the first time I did  hand plotting on a form block that CAD drawing was in my future.  Do you use CAD for other parts, like horns?  I'm thinking that would have some value.

  

 Thanks for your response.

  

 Larry



 

 On 7/21/06, Tom and Bren Henderson <admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)> wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		        No problem, I'll send a sample file tomorrow.  I can export to nearly any commercial CAD format (including .DWG) from Solidworks.  I was rather surprised to see a post from the original draftsman of the XL drawings.  That's not something I think I would admit to so redily.  I would certainly not have used the tone with which I took  his post.  

     The poor guy mentioned the fact that the drawings are copyrighted (I believe that was about the only point he had to make).  Of course they are!  The issue here is not that we want electronic copies of the existing, protected drawings.  Many of us are looking for higher quality, full scale drawings for use as templates, references, etc.  Would you rather plot fifty points on a piece of paper and connect the dots, or click the print button?  I guess I though it was kind of a no-brainer.   

    At any rate, I'll post a file for you tomorrow that will give you an idea of whther or not they'll help you out.  (One of my own, not an illegally reproduced Zenith print!  *sheesh!* lol)

 



Larry Winger < larrywinger(at)gmail.com (larrywinger(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 



   	  Quote: 	
		   Thanks for your offer.  Because I work in an office with a plotter and networked Autodesk stations, I'm going to try to bring in DWG files.  If DXF can be exported to DWG (or imported on my end), that would be great. 

  

 In the meantime, I'm actually learning more about Autodesk in a hurry.  Who knows, I may be another resource for the next scratch builder who wants Autodesk files.

  

 If you are willing to send along one file as a sample, I'll be glad to try to convert it.

  

 As usual, the response of the list has been impressive.  I hope I can reciprocate at some future date.

  

  Larry



 

 On 7/20/06, Tom and Bren Henderson < admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)> wrote:   	  Quote: 	
		       I've got a full set of Solidworks files if you're interested in any of them.  (Well, nearly a full set.  I'm still working ont he wings).  Let me know what you're looking for, and I'll work up some .DXF prints.

  



lwinger < larrywinger(at)gmail.com   (larrywinger(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

   	  Quote: 	
		  --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lwinger" 	


 



Before I dive in to learn Autodesk, is there anyone on the list who would be willing to share CAD files (DWG format) of 601XL parts?



This is in preparation for building a full set of 601XL form blanks.  

 Thanks.



--------

Larry Winger

Tustin, CA

601XL plan set 6493 in hand

Workshop nearly complete





Read this topic online 

   	  Quote:

n4546v(at)mindspring.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:32 am Post subject: 601XL CAD drawings

Hey Tom:

     How about some pictures of the  CNC punch knocking out some ZA parts?

  

 Regards,

  

 Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas    do not  archive

  	  Quote: 	
		      

   Subject: Re: 601XL CAD    drawings

   



    I used Solidworks to fabricate all the parts    in the kit.  I use it to export G-Code to our CNC punches.

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