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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: painting

John,

You can go with any kind of paint, but simple is not a way to describe it.

In any case you need to decide which type of paint you want to use.  

Lacquer,

acrylic, or urethane.  There are three larger makers of paint to choose from

and you should choose one of the big three.  I'm using AFS waterborne

urethane 2-part with a 1-part primer.   It's safer than most because you 

don't

have to worry about isocyanate and pump type breathing gear.  There aren't

any fumes to tick off the wife either as it's pretty much odorless.  You 

only use

MEK or water to clean up the spray gun.  If you're interested in this type

you can visit my website paint page and consider it or email me off line 

with

specific questions.  There's a lot of common ground in painting and as much

information. Also try 601.org for a well done piece on painting.

I'm in process now having painted a few cars years ago and it's still a 

learning

thing.



Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com

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		  hi list:



i am starting to get my paint and materials ready.  i

have available a auto sized paint booth.



I have researched the archives pretty well, but there

is to much info and choices. 



What i would like to have is something that i can

prepare, prime, and final coat.  i plan to paint it

completely white and use tape/stripes for the trim.



What paint(brands) should i use.  i am not an expert,

but can probebly get it done.  i want simple 



i assume i will have to prime, and then put on two

coats of paint.  is this correct.  i essentially want

to follow the directions on the paint can.



also, if anyone has used the tape type trim material,

it would help to have so sites to visit.



thank in advance



john butterfield

601XL, corvair

N745JB reserved

Torrance, CA

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gfmjr_20(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: painting

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		  i assume i will have to prime, and then put on two

coats of paint.  is this correct.  i essentially want

to follow the directions on the paint can.


	


John--

   There are a number of ways to proceed --both with preparation and type of 

paint.  I'm currently in the painting process, so what follows is the way 

I'm doing it.



   Paint type is Stitts Epoxy primer and Aerothane for finish coat.



The process I've used is to scuff the aluminum with scotchbright pads  

followed by a good degreasing wipe down with MEK.



A second wipe down with MEK just prior to painting.



Tack rag wipe down immediately before painting.



Priming and 2 coats of finish works about right



George May

601XL  912s



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steveadams

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 191

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: Re: painting

I also went with the AFS paints for many of the reasons sited above. In addition, as someone with no painting experience, I found their system to be user friendly and they provide good documentation and support. If you have a paint booth/respirator available however, many of the safety concerns I had with standard polyurethanes are probably secondary. I think you can probably get good results from most of the commonly used paints. Just make sure you use a complete system from one manufacturer that will provide good documentation on how to prep for and apply their particular paint. This way you'll avoid any possible incompatibility between primer and topcoat, and by using their recommended methods you'll be following something that has proven to give good results with their paints. Pay particular attention to times between coats, how much paint to apply each coat, pot life of the mixed paint, and trying to be very consistent with the viscosity and mixing of the paint. Small variations in these can make it extremely difficult to get consistently good results. Technically it's not really all that difficult, but it is a lot of work, and can be extremely frustrating at times. Start with some small parts like access covers, wheel pants, spinner etc. This will give you an opportunity to get a feel for how much paint to apply with each coat to get a nice looking finish, and will be relatively easy to strip and repaint when you make the mistakes that you will make. Some of my wheel pants were painted and stripped 3 times before I got a feel for that magical amount of paint somewhere between orange peel and runs. This was another big advantage to the AFS paints. If I really messed up, I just took the part outside in the yard and washed the wet paint off with the hose and some dish soap and was ready for another shot at it. Not too practical for bigger parts, but great during the learning phase. Have fun. Seeing the transition from bare aluminum or fiberglass to beautiful shiny pieces of a finished airplane was really a thrill.

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