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Anyone have a dynon product, I have a D10A in my 701.For those interested. There is a new firmware update just out July 10th that enables the AOA tone to headset and has a full screen DG that keeps all the numbers right side up.Many other improvements also.
I just powered up the completed Aerolectric Connection designed electrical system and its
looking good!! I'm using a power supply on the battery terminals. Looking at batteries at
B&C and wondering about Amp hours. Whats reasonable for VFR only. Id like to keep the weight and size of the battery on the low end. Maybe a local night flight not very often, mostly daytime. Any battery install pics in the back seat of a 701 helpful.
I have a rotax 912 with the 20 Amp alternator.
I've attached a pic of panel, hopefully seen at http://www.matronics.com/forums
Lettering has been done with rub on letters and numbers from tower hobbies.
Base paint is grey rustoleum glossy, letters applied and then applied a rustoleum flat clear coat. Used blue painters tape to line up letters and numbers to keep straight. It took alot of time but looks like a military style panel.
This is posted to Aeroelectric List and Zenith list.
Brian
Zenith CH-701
Long Island, NY
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: Batteries and dynon update |
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Brian,
It looks like you are using AUX. fuel tanks. Could you send me some pictures off-line of how you did those. Did you get plans from Zenith showing what to do?
Thanks,
Keith
keith.ashcraft(at)itt.com (keith.ashcraft(at)itt.com)
CH701 -- 8% -- scratch
N 38.9947
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RURUNY(at)aol.com (RURUNY(at)aol.com) wrote:
| Quote: | Anyone have a dynon product, I have a D10A in my 701.For those interested. There is a new firmware update just out July 10th that enables the AOA tone to headset and has a full screen DG that keeps all the numbers right side up.Many other improvements also.
I just powered up the completed Aerolectric Connection designed electrical system and its
looking good!! I'm using a power supply on the battery terminals. Looking at batteries at
B&C and wondering about Amp hours. Whats reasonable for VFR only. Id like to keep the weight and size of the battery on the low end. Maybe a local night flight not very often, mostly daytime. Any battery install pics in the back seat of a 701 helpful.
I have a rotax 912 with the 20 Amp alternator.
I've attached a pic of panel, hopefully seen at http://www.matronics.com/forums
Lettering has been done with rub on letters and numbers from tower hobbies.
Base paint is grey rustoleum glossy, letters applied and then applied a rustoleum flat clear coat. Used blue painters tape to line up letters and numbers to keep straight. It took alot of time but looks like a military style panel.
This is posted to Aeroelectric List and Zenith list.
Brian
Zenith CH-701
Long Island, NY
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RURUNY(at)AOL.COM
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: Batteries and dynon update |
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Keith,
The only instructions were in a newer version of the plans showing a vague drawing
of the installation. The tanks mount directly outside the inboard tanks. The only difference in the aux tanks is the finger screen comes out the rear inboard of the tank.
Everything else was just doubled in the kit. Problem I'm working on now is how to fit the 2 gascolaters with the straight hose barbs around the flap handle as in the plan but in reality it will not work. I am thinking of going with metal lines and AN fittings from the wing root to in behind the seat to the selector valve. Selector valve is OFF- INBD tanks -OUTBD tanks.
Here are a few pics of the tanks installed. Sorry about the size of these but I don't have time to shrink them right now, especially to dial up people. I've been meaning to send a bunch of these to CH701.com but am too busy to get it done.
Brian
......It looks like you are using AUX. fuel tanks. Could you send me some
pictures off-line of how you did those.
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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: Batteries and dynon update |
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Hi Brian,
That is a beautiful instrument panel.
I don't think the battery size should be determined by the type of flying you are doing. That should be considered when sizing the generator. The Generator should be big enough to keep the battery charged, recharge it after starting the engine, and power all the gizmos you will use at one time.
I think the primary consideration for the battery is how much cranking power you need to start your engine. This could vary considerably from one engine to another and would also be impacted by the type of systems you have on the engine like carburetor vs. fuel injection. It would also vary considerably by the outside air temperatures you want to start your plane in. If you will keep your plane in tropical climates you need a smaller battery than if you live at the arctic circle.
Perhaps the best way to start choosing a battery is talk to other owners of similar engines located near you and copy their choices.
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
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At 03:38 PM 7/20/2006, you wrote:
| Quote: | Anyone have a dynon product, I have a D10A in my 701.For those interested. There is a new firmware update just out July 10th that enables the AOA tone to headset and has a full screen DG that keeps all the numbers right side up.Many other improvements also.
I just powered up the completed Aerolectric Connection designed electrical system and its
looking good!! I'm using a power supply on the battery terminals. Looking at batteries at
B&C and wondering about Amp hours. Whats reasonable for VFR only. Id like to keep the weight and size of the battery on the low end. Maybe a local night flight not very often, mostly daytime. Any battery install pics in the back seat of a 701 helpful.
I have a rotax 912 with the 20 Amp alternator.
I've attached a pic of panel, hopefully seen at http://www.matronics.com/forums
Lettering has been done with rub on letters and numbers from tower hobbies.
Base paint is grey rustoleum glossy, letters applied and then applied a rustoleum flat clear coat. Used blue painters tape to line up letters and numbers to keep straight. It took alot of time but looks like a military style panel.
This is posted to Aeroelectric List and Zenith list.
Brian
Zenith CH-701
Long Island, NY
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: Batteries and dynon update |
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Brian,
Nice panel, nice straight holes in the centers of the ribs too. As far as the battery, I went with the Odyssey 680. I got it from Aircraft Spruce along with the battery hold down tray. There are other places that you can but it for less. Ask the group and you will get some responses. I highly recommend the battery. I did mount it behind the passenger seat back, weight is 15 lbs.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX 62 hrs
In a message dated 7/20/2006 11:52:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att.net writes:
| Quote: | Hi Brian,
That is a beautiful instrument panel.
I don't think the battery size should be determined by the type of flying you are doing. That should be considered when sizing the generator. The Generator should be big enough to keep the battery charged, recharge it after starting the engine, and power all the gizmos you will use at one time.
I think the primary consideration for the battery is how much cranking power you need to start your engine. This could vary considerably from one engine to another and would also be impacted by the type of systems you have on the engine like carburetor vs. fuel injection. It would also vary considerably by the outside air temperatures you want to start your plane in. If you will keep your plane in tropical climates you need a smaller battery than if you live at the arctic circle.
Perhaps the best way to start choosing a battery is talk to other owners of similar engines located near you and copy their choices.
Good luck,
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: Batteries and dynon update |
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Please. No large pics. Reduce them.
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RURUNY(at)aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | Anyone have a dynon product, I have a D10A in my 701.For those
interested. There is a new firmware update just out July 10th that
enables the AOA tone to headset and has a full screen DG that keeps all
the numbers right side up.Many other improvements also.
I just powered up the completed Aerolectric Connection designed
electrical system and its
looking good!! I'm using a power supply on the battery terminals.
Looking at batteries at
B&C and wondering about Amp hours. Whats reasonable for VFR only. Id
like to keep the weight and size of the battery on the low end. Maybe a
local night flight not very often, mostly daytime. Any battery install
pics in the back seat of a 701 helpful.
I have a rotax 912 with the 20 Amp alternator.
I've attached a pic of panel, hopefully seen at
http://www.matronics.com/forums
Lettering has been done with rub on letters and numbers from tower hobbies.
Base paint is grey rustoleum glossy, letters applied and then applied a
rustoleum flat clear coat. Used blue painters tape to line up letters
and numbers to keep straight. It took alot of time but looks like a
military style panel.
This is posted to Aeroelectric List and Zenith list.
Brian
Zenith CH-701
Long Island, NY
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:54 am Post subject: Batteries and dynon update |
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Listers:
When someone sends large photos, I attribute it to inexperience with images, but I went back and read this email and found the sender completely capable, but "didn't have time" to reduce the size. It took this dial-up lister 45 minutes to download, 9.86 mb total. I saved the pictures, activated my image software, resized the photos in less that four minutes.
I normally wouldn't respond to something like this, but the attitude that one's time is more valuable than others goes against the spirit of this list. I also notice this message was sent direct to Keith as well as the list. Why wasn't the list message delayed until the sender had "time" to resize the photos. I have only dial-up which works fine when simple consideration is shown.
Regards,
Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas, NV
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: Batteries and dynon update |
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My recommendation for what it is worth is to have a generator that is capable of powering everything on your plane turned on at once using no more than 80 % of the generator output. If you install a load meter ( an ammeter that reads the draw on the entire system ) then you can raise that figure to 100% and still be safe.
The battery is another quintal of fish! It should be large enough to allow several attempts at starting the engine. Nothing like trying to hand prop a flooded engine!
Ok.... Generator to carry the load and battery to power the starter.
Noel [quote]
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject: Batteries and dynon update |
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"Sorry about the size of these but I don't have time to shrink them right now, especially to dial up people."
And Brian, where am I supposed to find the time to download 13508 KB of crap and have my mailbox go 143% over its limit?
Very inconsiderate, to say the least.
Cliff
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Keith,
The only instructions were in a newer version of the plans showing a vague
drawing
of the installation. The tanks mount directly outside the inboard tanks. The
only difference in the aux tanks is the finger screen comes out the rear
inboard of the tank.
Everything else was just doubled in the kit. Problem I'm working on now is
how to fit the 2 gascolaters with the straight hose barbs around the flap
handle as in the plan but in reality it will not work. I am thinking of
going with metal lines and AN fittings from the wing root to in behind the
seat to the selector valve. Selector valve is OFF- INBD tanks -OUTBD tanks.
Here are a few pics of the tanks installed.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Batteries and dynon update |
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FWIW:
I quit having the emails sent to my mail box as soon as Matt made this online forum available. Now I just use the browser and the fourm interface to view everything. All the pictures appear as thumbnails with size show. You just click on the ones you want to see. Bandwidth is good and my mailbox doesn't fill up when I am away or not interested.
Try this: Login, and View posts since last visit
http://forums.matronics.com/
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