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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

MkIII (c&x) owners: I was looking at the TNK pdf drawings for
fuel piping. I have a similar setup, with the plastic tanks,
dip tubes, etc. Question, if anyone is using the parallel suction
shown, how evenly are your tanks drawing down?
Also, instead of creating the vent in the handle, I made use of the
female threads already in most chemical tank caps and put in a
small stainless barb fitting. Stick the vent tube on that with no
clamp.
When you unscrew the cap the tubing swivels on the fitting
with no problem. -in addition the cap will stay attached to the tube
and won't fall into an "unreachable zone".
-BB
BTW, I blow through the vent to check if mud daubers (dobbers to you
southerners) have blocked it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:11 am    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

| BTW, I blow through the vent to check if mud daubers (dobbers to
you
| southerners) have blocked it.
Wrong, Leroy:

DABBERS................

We invented them.

Do you need any more up there in the land of ice and snow?

john h
hauck's holler, alabama
mkIII (2537.3)
912ULS (1191.4)

PS: mkIII is ready to go to OSH with the exception of a few gals fuel
and loading my gear. Looks like thunderstorms until I get north of
Kentucky tomorrow. Normal weather for flight to OSH.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

I stand corrected. Dobbers must be midwestern.
First year I parked the Kolb up in the open front shed they filled
every unused screw hole on the suzuki engine, plus the distributor
vent. I covered the holes with silicone seal.
Yesterday I squirted the beams overhead to cut down on the
sawdust sprinkling on the wings.
-BB do not archive
BTW, a nice hard freeze sure cuts back on the bug population.
Winters have been too warm recently Smile
On 21, Jul 2006, at 1:10 PM, John Hauck wrote:

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| BTW, I blow through the vent to check if mud daubers (dobbers to
you
| southerners) have blocked it.
Wrong, Leroy:

DABBERS................

We invented them.

Do you need any more up there in the land of ice and snow?

john h
hauck's holler, alabama
mkIII (2537.3)
912ULS (1191.4)

PS: mkIII is ready to go to OSH with the exception of a few gals fuel
and loading my gear. Looks like thunderstorms until I get north of
Kentucky tomorrow. Normal weather for flight to OSH.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:22 am    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

Bob, I am using standard Kolb tanks on my Mk III and use two fuel valves
located where the flap handle pivots. I have a fuel return valve
selector and a fuel supply valve selector to feed my throttle body fuel
injection system. This allows me to direct the return fuel to either
tank. That way, when fuel amount becomes an issue, I can empty the
port tank by directing it's fuel. via the return line, to the starboard
tank. Now, I can easily see how much fuel I have left and fly the rest
of the flight on the starboard tank.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

Bob B/Gang:

No sweat.

Spring is a dangerous time in my old hanger. Those big carpenter bees
can cut a 2X8 rafter in the blink of an eye. They keep my airplane
covered with saw dust and bee crap. The crap is of the consistency of
epoxy glue. I spend a lot of time with a squirt gun and bug spray
knocking them out of the air in mid flight. They are so dumb they
come right back to the same place so I can get'em again. However,
they usually win the war, and I win a battle every once in a while.

john h
mkIII

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:48 am    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

Bob,

I almost hate to ask *what* you squirted on the beams.

Ed in JXN (MI)
MkII/503

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:10 pm    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

Since the list is mixed company we shall keep things polite:
-besides, at 65+ my hydraulic pressure isn't what it yooster be.

It was some kind of cheap water soluble poison in a squirt bottle
from dollar general. Seems to work, at least temporary. No dust
the next day. The bee crap John refers to is a tough, yellowish
deposit. I clean it all off with generic windex and those nice soft
blue paper shop towels. Too lazy to spread tarps on the wings
every time and I pay the penalty.
I did sight down the tail tube recently and no body was living or
depositing in there.
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Bob,

I almost hate to ask *what* you squirted on the beams.

Ed in JXN (MI)
MkII/503

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

I am using the parallel connection and the tanks even themselves out with use and/or with atmospheric changes. Fill one tank today and tomorrow you have two half tanks. I also have a fuel gauge sensing one tank but always go by flying time. I can push it to 2.5 hrs at 500-5500 RPM but look to put down at 2 hrs. (old habit).
 
Have not experienced any problems with this arrangement in 45 hrs.
 
Larry Tasker
MKlllx/582


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

Hi All,

I have 780 hrs. on my Kolb Mark III. It has always had the standard parallel fuel tanks with a probe in the pilot side tank. It works very well. Drains equally. I also have a 6 gal. bladder tank for a total of 16 gals. It has its own fuel pump and pumps into the fuel line that comes out of the tanks going to the engine. It fills up the tanks in flight. When I get down to 4 gals. of fuel I flip the switch and in a couple of minutes I have a full tank that I can read the level on my fuel gauge.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

For that much money you could have a Sting Sport. Nicest airplane I ever
flew.
Richard Pike
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:22 pm    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

Hi Gang
Putting tarps on the wings is well worth it to me; because the bats in my
hangar seem to think that my plane is a bat'room Smile
Bill Vincent
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Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

because the bats in my
| hangar seem to think that my plane is a bat'room Smile
| Bill Vincent


Reckon that makes Bill V "batman".

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: fuel tank piping Reply with quote

I also have a 6 gal. bladder tank for a total of 16 gals. It has its own
fuel pump and pumps into the fuel line that comes out of the tanks going to
the engine.

Hi,

cna you post more details please.Where is the bladder tank?

Cheers

Pat

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