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wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:00 am Post subject: Full control deflection

So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 

i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.

I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

Will



William Daniell

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freddythek10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:40 am Post subject: Full control deflection

So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.



Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 

i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.



I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps



Will

William Daniell

+1 786 878 0246

freddythek10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:21 am Post subject: Full control deflection

Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?



Fred



PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

 

 Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 

 i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.

 

 I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

 

 Will

 

 

 William Daniell

 +1 786 878 0246

peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:05 am Post subject: Full control deflection

Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.



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		   On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?

 

 Fred

 

 PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!

 

> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

> 

> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 

> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.

> 

> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

> 

> Will

> 

> 

> William Daniell

> +1 786 878 0246

freddythek10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:28 pm Post subject: Full control deflection

Yes, Erich has a beautiful bird with amazing fully retractable outriggers 

but (Erich...correct me if I’m wrong) I believe his flaps are still coupled to his mono wheel LG



Sent from my iPhone 



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		   On Sep 15, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.

 

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?

> 

> Fred

> 

> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!

> 

>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>> 

>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

>> 

>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 

>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.

>> 

>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

>> 

>> Will

>> 

>> 

>> William Daniell

>> +1 786 878 0246

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

Paul M 383

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Location: United Kingdom

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Full control deflection

 	  freddythek10(at)gmail.com wrote: 	
		  Yes, Erich has a beautiful bird with amazing fully retractable outriggers 

but (Erich...correct me if I’m wrong) I believe his flaps are still coupled to his mono wheel LG



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From the looks of this photo, maybe not connected...



HTH 



Paul M



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freddythek10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:49 pm Post subject: Full control deflection

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		  On Sep 15, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Paul M 383 <europaul383(at)hotmail.com (europaul383(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

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		  From the looks of this photo, maybe not connected… 	


	


	yes…certainly a possibility... 	  Quote:

alan.twigg775(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:49 pm Post subject: Full control deflection

As I have a motor glider variant, I am most interested in electric outrigger details. 

Alan Twigg

Kit 463, complete but struggling with control deflections. 



Sent from my iPhone



 	  Quote: 	
		   On 15 Sep 2019, at 19:04, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.

 

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?

> 

> Fred

> 

> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!

> 

>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>> 

>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

>> 

>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 

>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.

>> 

>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

>> 

>> Will

>> 

>> 

>> William Daniell

>> +1 786 878 0246

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:27 am Post subject: Full control deflection

Hi Alan,



Erich’s custom outriggers fold up sideways into custom classic-foam wing carved out rebates. Not applicable to the carbon prepreg glider wings.



Cheers,

Pete



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:47 AM, Alan Twigg <alan.twigg775(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 As I have a motor glider variant, I am most interested in electric outrigger details. 

 Alan Twigg

 Kit 463, complete but struggling with control deflections. 

 

 Sent from my iPhone

 

> On 15 Sep 2019, at 19:04, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.

> 

>> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?

>> 

>> Fred

>> 

>> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!

>> 

>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

>>> 

>>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 

>>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.

>>> 

>>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

>>> 

>>> Will

>>> 

>>> 

>>> William Daniell

>>> +1 786 878 0246

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

>

alan.twigg775(at)gmail.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:41 am Post subject: Full control deflection

Thanks Pete, I did see some miniature actuators several years ago that one Europaphile was intending to use but heard no more.

Alan Twigg



Sent from my iPhone



 	  Quote: 	
		   On 16 Sep 2019, at 11:26, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi Alan,

 

 Erich’s custom outriggers fold up sideways into custom classic-foam wing carved out rebates. Not applicable to the carbon prepreg glider wings.

 

 Cheers,

 Pete

 

> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:47 AM, Alan Twigg <alan.twigg775(at)gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> 

> 

> As I have a motor glider variant, I am most interested in electric outrigger details. 

> Alan Twigg

> Kit 463, complete but struggling with control deflections. 

> 

> Sent from my iPhone

> 

>> On 15 Sep 2019, at 19:04, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Yip, Erich in vegas, beautiful mono classic with elec retract outriggers.

>> 

>>> On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Fred Klein <freddythek10(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Will…”less flaps” you say…a happy option for the trip-gear…I’m wondering if there are any mono wheels flying with electric flaps decoupled from the LG…?

>>> 

>>> Fred

>>> 

>>> PS: this week N194XS received its Special Airworthiness Certificate…yay !!

>>> 

>>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:59 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>> So.....my aileron deflection complies with the manual.

>>>> 

>>>> Yesterday it was 27kt pretty much straight down the runway.  04FA Richards field is surrounded by trees. 

>>>> i had full flaps and everything was fine until about 250ft...for the first time i used and held in (for a moment) full left aileron control deflection with the stick hard against my left knee.   I have never even come close before.

>>>> 

>>>> I guess next time higher , fast approach and less flaps

>>>> 

>>>> Will

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> William Daniell

>>>> +1 786 878 0246

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

>

erichdtrombley(at)juno.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:49 am Post subject: Full control deflection

Hi Fred,



I do have electric flaps and they are decoupled from the main gear.  Same installation as the tri-gear flaps.  Its the retractable outriggers that are coupled to the main gear. 



Cheers,



Erich

N28ET

Classic Mono 914

____________________________________________________________

$80K In Debt To 2.5 Million Trading Stocks

ragingbull.com

http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5d8289c74a3b69c71681st04vuc

freddythek10(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:08 pm Post subject: Full control deflection

Hey Erich...I figured as much...and a very sweet, and unique installation it is. Hope you’re enjoying some sunshine and good flying weather ...up here in the PNW we be under serious cloud cover, though finally this afternoon we have some blue sky...



Fred 



Sent from my iPhone 



 	  Quote: 	
		   On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley(at)juno.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi Fred,

 

 I do have electric flaps and they are decoupled from the main gear.  Same installation as the tri-gear flaps.  Its the retractable outriggers that are coupled to the main gear. 

 

 Cheers,

 

 Erich

 N28ET

 Classic Mono 914

 ____________________________________________________________

 $80K In Debt To 2.5 Million Trading Stocks

 ragingbull.com

 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5d8289c74a3b69c71681st04vuc

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