Matronics Email Lists Forum Index Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
 
 Get Email Distribution Too!Get Email Distribution Too!    FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Airplane Tug

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> KIS-List
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
GalinHdz



Joined: 08 Nov 2017
Posts: 150

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
www.puertoricoflyer.com


- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
GalinHdz



Joined: 08 Nov 2017
Posts: 150

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:47 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

Here is what the mower should look like and what it looks like now. 

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:37 PM Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
www.puertoricoflyer.com



- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List



!Original_Tug_-_Sm.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  371.66 KB
 Viewed:  10053 Time(s)

!Original_Tug_-_Sm.jpg



Lawnmower_Tug_2_-_Sm.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  876.09 KB
 Viewed:  10053 Time(s)

Lawnmower_Tug_2_-_Sm.jpg


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Robert Reed



Joined: 22 Oct 2009
Posts: 331
Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:30 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

And for some strange reason my plane gets heavier and harder to push back into the hangar with each year. I am trying to adapt a Jazzy Scooter for use as a tug. Just haven’t found the time.

Bob Reed
Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:36 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com> wrote:

With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
www.puertoricoflyer.com

=================================== =================================== =================================== =================================== =================================== ===================================


- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Robert Reed



Joined: 22 Oct 2009
Posts: 331
Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:31 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

Looks great.

Bob Reed
Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Here is what the mower should look like and what it looks like now.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:37 PM Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
www.puertoricoflyer.com


<!Original Tug - Sm.jpg>
<Lawnmower Tug 2 - Sm.jpg>



- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
wschertz343(at)gmail.com
Guest





PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:40 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

I used a battery powered winch at the back of the hanger, with a remote control to run it while it pulled the plane into the hanger (uphill) and I steered from the front. ~ $70 at Harbor Freight

Wouldn't solve the "going to the gas pump".
Nice work Galin
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:31 PM Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net (robertr237(at)att.net)> wrote:

Quote:
Looks great. 

Bob Reed
Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Here is what the mower should look like and what it looks like now. 

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:37 PM Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
www.puertoricoflyer.com


<!Original Tug - Sm.jpg>
<Lawnmower Tug 2 - Sm.jpg>




- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
GalinHdz



Joined: 08 Nov 2017
Posts: 150

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:46 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

And now I have the only "classic" airplane tug at the airport. It is quite the spectacle when I drive it around with a drink in the coozy holder and the beacon flashing away. Even I have to chuckle.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:41 PM William Schertz <wschertz343(at)gmail.com (wschertz343(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
I used a battery powered winch at the back of the hanger, with a remote control to run it while it pulled the plane into the hanger (uphill) and I steered from the front. ~ $70 at Harbor Freight

Wouldn't solve the "going to the gas pump".
Nice work Galin
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:31 PM Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net (robertr237(at)att.net)> wrote:

Quote:
Looks great. 

Bob Reed
Sent from my iPhone

Quote:
On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Here is what the mower should look like and what it looks like now. 

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:37 PM Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
www.puertoricoflyer.com


<!Original Tug - Sm.jpg>
<Lawnmower Tug 2 - Sm.jpg>





- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com
Guest





PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:59 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

Good Job!

From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com> On Behalf Of Galin Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 5:45 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Airplane Tug

Here is what the mower should look like and what it looks like now.


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:37 PM Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:

With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.


www.puertoricoflyer.com



- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
GalinHdz



Joined: 08 Nov 2017
Posts: 150

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:17 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

Now with dual exhaust pipes. maybe some chrome rims for the "hot rod" image. Wink

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:59 PM Tim Yoder <ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com (ftyoder(at)yoderbuilt.com)> wrote:

Quote:

Good Job!
 
From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com)> On Behalf Of Galin Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 5:45 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com (kis-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Airplane Tug
 
Here is what the mower should look like and what it looks like now. 

 
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 8:37 PM Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:

With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
 

www.puertoricoflyer.com




- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List



Dual_Exhaust_-_Sm.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  434.53 KB
 Viewed:  10038 Time(s)

Dual_Exhaust_-_Sm.jpg


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mike(at)vision499.com
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:24 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

Hi Galin

Looked at the pictures on your website, great job and well done, good idea

Keep well

Mike
 
From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com> On Behalf Of Galin Hernandez
Sent: March 12, 2020 5:34 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Airplane Tug

With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.


www.puertoricoflyer.com
Virus-free. www.avast.com [url=#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2] [/url]


- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
GalinHdz



Joined: 08 Nov 2017
Posts: 150

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:19 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

I have been working on pushing the plane into the hangar with the tug. It is a WHOLE LOT harder to do than I thought. Guess it gonna be a while before I get anywhere good at doing it.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:25 PM <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> wrote:

Quote:

Hi Galin
 
Looked at the pictures on your website, great job and well done, good idea
 
Keep well
 
Mike
 
From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com)> On Behalf Of Galin Hernandez
Sent: March 12, 2020 5:34 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com (kis-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Airplane Tug
 
With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
 

www.puertoricoflyer.com

Virus-free. www.avast.com [url=#m_3933408715612839662_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2] [/url]



- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List



Plane_and_Tug_-_Sm.jpg
 Description:
 Filesize:  385.69 KB
 Viewed:  10009 Time(s)

Plane_and_Tug_-_Sm.jpg


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Robert Reed



Joined: 22 Oct 2009
Posts: 331
Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:03 am    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

Galin,
I can appreciate the issue more than you realize. I have tried to use the Jazzy Wheelchair that I have on a several occasions but ONLY when there is nobody else around. Using a joy stick control with 360 degree movement and trying to push the plane back reminded me of the old Keystone Cops routines. I could never figure out which way to move the joy stick to get the desired results. Took several times longer than just pushing it back by hand which is always fun since I can't see where I am going when trying to push it back. I have to bend down and push back to get the leverage which also makes it impossible to see where the tail is going.
Oh the burdens we must bear....as my wife reminds me every time I mention it.
Bob Reed

On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 11:19:30 PM CDT, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com> wrote:




I have been working on pushing the plane into the hangar with the tug. It is a WHOLE LOT harder to do than I thought. Guess it gonna be a while before I get anywhere good at doing it.
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:25 PM <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Hi Galin

Looked at the pictures on your website, great job and well done, good idea

Keep well

Mike

From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com)> On Behalf Of Galin HernandezSent: March 12, 2020 5:34 PMTo: kis-list(at)matronics.com (kis-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Airplane Tug

With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.


www.puertoricoflyer.com
Virus-free. www.avast.com [url=#m_3933408715612839662_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2] [/url]



- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
mike(at)vision499.com
Guest





PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:12 am    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

I have helped a friend move his aircraft with a tug. A lot more difficult than it seems. Much like driving in reverse with a trailer.
Keep well

Mike


From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com> On Behalf Of Robert Reed
Sent: March 16, 2020 8:02 AM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Airplane Tug

Galin,



I can appreciate the issue more than you realize. I have tried to use the Jazzy Wheelchair that I have on a several occasions but ONLY when there is nobody else around. Using a joy stick control with 360 degree movement and trying to push the plane back reminded me of the old Keystone Cops routines. I could never figure out which way to move the joy stick to get the desired results. Took several times longer than just pushing it back by hand which is always fun since I can't see where I am going when trying to push it back. I have to bend down and push back to get the leverage which also makes it impossible to see where the tail is going.



Oh the burdens we must bear....as my wife reminds me every time I mention it.



Bob Reed









On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 11:19:30 PM CDT, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:





I have been working on pushing the plane into the hangar with the tug. It is a WHOLE LOT harder to do than I thought. Guess it gonna be a while before I get anywhere good at doing it.




On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:25 PM <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Hi Galin

Looked at the pictures on your website, great job and well done, good idea

Keep well

Mike

From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com)> On Behalf Of Galin Hernandez
Sent: March 12, 2020 5:34 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com (kis-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Airplane Tug

With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.


www.puertoricoflyer.com



Virus-free. www.avast.com




- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
GalinHdz



Joined: 08 Nov 2017
Posts: 150

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:46 pm    Post subject: Airplane Tug Reply with quote

My son-in-law (Chinook Helicopter Mechanic with the Army NG) told me how to push an aircraft with a tug. He told me I was probably over thinking the whole process.

He told me do not think or look at anything but the tail of the aircraft. If you want the tail to go left, you turn to the left. If you want the tail to go right, you turn to the right. If you think about it or look at anything else you won't be able to do it.

So I tried it and it worked like magic. I got the airplane in the hangar on my 1st try. YAAAAAYYYYY!!!

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 3:14 PM <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> wrote:

Quote:

I have helped a friend move his aircraft with a tug. A lot more difficult than it seems. Much like driving in reverse with a trailer.
Keep well
 
Mike
 
 
From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com)> On Behalf Of Robert Reed
Sent: March 16, 2020 8:02 AM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com (kis-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Airplane Tug
 
Galin,

 

I can appreciate the issue more than you realize.  I have tried to use the Jazzy Wheelchair that I have on a several occasions but ONLY when there is nobody else around.  Using a joy stick control with 360 degree movement and trying to push the plane back reminded me of the old Keystone Cops routines.  I could never figure out which way to move the joy stick to get the desired results.  Took several times longer than just pushing it back by hand which is always fun since I can't see where I am going when trying to push it back.  I have to bend down and push back to get the leverage which also makes it impossible to see where the tail is going.  

 

Oh the burdens we must bear....as my wife reminds me every time I mention it.

 

Bob Reed

 

 

 

 

On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 11:19:30 PM CDT, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com (galinhdz(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

 

 

I have been working on pushing the plane into the hangar with the tug. It is a WHOLE LOT harder to do than I thought. Guess it gonna be a while before I get anywhere good at doing it.
 

 
 
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:25 PM <mike(at)vision499.com (mike(at)vision499.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Hi Galin
 
Looked at the pictures on your website, great job and well done, good idea
 
Keep well
 
Mike
 
From: owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kis-list-server(at)matronics.com)> On Behalf Of Galin Hernandez
Sent: March 12, 2020 5:34 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com (kis-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Airplane Tug
 
With a full tank of fuel it is difficult to push the airplane in to the hangar without help. Additionally, the airplane wash racks/fuel pumps are a good distance from our hangar and requires towing the airplane on active taxiways. So, I bought a 1994 Montgomery Wards riding mower, rebuilt it and made it into an airplane tug. Here is a link to our web page with photos of what I did.
 

www.puertoricoflyer.com

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com
 




- The Matronics KIS-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> KIS-List All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group