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wdaniell.longport(at)gmai
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:43 am Post subject: Deere Volt reg

So my researchÂ indicates

Deere AC = Yellow rotax wires outputÂ from ALTÂ 

Deere B+ = Rotax +B = battery

I believe that on the Ducati R and +B are connected internally.

Deere IGW = rotax C = Switch



William Daniell



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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Deere Volt reg

Your post is correct.

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:01 am Post subject: Deere Volt reg

Thanks joe and giles.



As far as i can see there seems to be a consensus that ducati and jd are equivalent in terms of quality and durability.

(In the 80s i have a mate with duke 900ss.Â  Â Lovely bike but never worked in the rain thanks to ducati electrics.Â  ThisÂ  was somewhat of a disadvantage in the English climate.)

Silent hectic seems to be the optimum solution.

Thanks to all

Will



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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:41 am Post subject: Deere Volt reg

Le 14/05/2020 Ã            19:56, William Daniell a Ã©critÂ :

         

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                    Silent hectic seems to be the               optimum solution.

       

     	
     

Will,

          

It depends on what you're looking for.     

We tried the Silent Hektik (the only model produced currently is       the 4118), and were disappointed : it tookÂ  a ~20 minute flight       before the device started recharging the batteries.     

According to the manufacturer, it is intentional : as many       builders are using Lithium batteries, Silent Hektik plays safe       with a "5-step charging law".     

As we cannot aford to take off with the low Volt alarms flashing,       we changed for the new Schicke GR6 which charges as soon as the       engine runs.     

So the Silent Hektik doesn't fit *our* needs. 

          

Some info here : http://contrails.free.fr/elec_regul_change.php     

BTW, Silent Hektik advised us to "lower the low-voltage alarm       threshold to 12.5V"...     

FWIW

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:49 am Post subject: Deere Volt reg

At 01:36 PM 5/14/2020, you wrote:

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		  Le 14/05/2020 Ã  19:56, William Daniell a Ã©critÂ :

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 Silent hectic seems to be the optimum solution. 	


 Will,



 It depends on what you're looking for.



 We tried the Silent Hektik (the only model produced currently is the 4118), and were disappointed : it tookÂ  a ~20 minute flight before the device started recharging the batteries.



 According to the manufacturer, it is intentional : as many builders are using Lithium batteries, Silent Hektik plays safe with a "5-step charging law". 	


   Interesting data point!



 

 

   Bob . . .

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:13 am Post subject: Deere Volt reg

Le 14/05/2020 Ã  20:36, Gilles Thesee a Ã©critÂ :

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 Silent Hektik advised us to "lower the low-voltage alarm threshold to 

 12.5V"...



Read "lower the voltage at which the alarms stop flashing". Hope this is 
	


a bit clearer.



And by the way my buddy has a Silent Hektik 4118 for sale.



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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Deere Volt reg

Silent Hektik has more than one model.  F4112, F4118, F4122

Not all have the voltage step up feature.  

Van's Aircraft sells a Silent Hektik Upgrade Regulator Kit 12 REGULATOR KIT  Price: $495.00

Search eBay for MIA881279.  They sell for as little as $18 with free shipping.

You can buy 28 of the John Deere regulators (item 233455272515) for the price of Van's Silent Hektik plus shipping.

Silent Hektik regulators have failed also.  Read this thread:

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=176616

No matter which brand is installed, mount it using heat conductive grease between the mating aluminum surfaces.

When purchasing a Lithium (LiFePO4) battery, it must be sized based on the capability of the aircraft charging system.

The ETX680 can accept up to 60 amps of charging current.

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 6:07 pm Post subject: Deere Volt reg

Le 14/05/2020 Ã  23:41, user9253 a       Ã©critÂ :

     

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Silent Hektik has more than one model.  F4112, F4118, F4122

	
     	
     



          

As stated, the 4112 is no longer in production, according to       Silent Hektik themselves. They seem to only sell their "5-step"       regulators (412, according to their website), preventing       overcurrent when charging LiFePo batteries.

       But unfortunately preventing charging RG batteries before 20+       minutes.     

Here is the message they sent to us at the time, "from the       horse's mouth" :     

"Guten Morgen

         The F4112 with 14,2V is since 2016 retired; sorry.

         The F4118 is not a problem for your alarm, if           you change your settig of the alarm to <12V, to fix it.

         warm regards"

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 6:23 pm Post subject: Deere Volt reg

Le 15/05/2020 Ã  04:02, Gilles Thesee a       Ã©critÂ :

     

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		                They seem to only sell their "5-step" regulators (412,       according to their website), 	
     



          

Oups, 4123     

see https://www.silent-hektik.de/UL_R_912.htm

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