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Martin Olliver

Joined: 04 Jan 2010
Posts: 35

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:28 am Post subject: Europa oil drain plug

I am going to change the drain plug on the oil tank to a Saf-Air type. I think the thread size is 3/8. Can anyone confirm the size?

Thank you

Burrilla

Joined: 25 Apr 2015
Posts: 185

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:51 am Post subject: Europa oil drain plug

You sure? I thought the ROTAX stuff was metric.



I have torque settings table from ConAir and the Oil Tank Drain Plug is shown as an M12 bolt with a torque setting of 25Nm.



Alan

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Martin Olliver

Joined: 04 Jan 2010
Posts: 35

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Europa oil drain plug

Hi Alan. I am not sure of the size. You may very well be right but I have to 

be 100% sure before ordering. 

Thank you for your advice 

Martin

Burrilla

Joined: 25 Apr 2015
Posts: 185

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:17 am Post subject: Europa oil drain plug

Have a look at the Rotax Parts Manual. Page 79-20-00 page 3

IPC_912_914 Series_ED4_R3.pdf

It lists the drain plug as M12x12



I agree you need to be 100% so worth doing the research.



Alan

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rparigoris

Joined: 24 Nov 2009
Posts: 796

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Europa oil drain plug

Hi Martin I have one from Lockwood: https://lockwood.aero/oil-drain-valve-for-912-oil-tank-certified.html I'm not sure if I'm going to use it. Is it really that much of a hassle to remove the drain plug and re-safety? Ron P.

Paul M 383

Joined: 19 Mar 2012
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Location: United Kingdom

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:39 am Post subject: Europa oil drain plug

FWIW, Kevin Dilks (UK Rotax guru) recommends not using a drain valve. 

 Using the drain plug allows the oil to flow freely, thus taking any particles out with it.  

 

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Martin Olliver

Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Europa oil drain plug

Thank you all for the advice. 

Good point made by Kevin Dilks re free flow of oil. I have fitted this type of drain valve to other aircraft and it does make an oil change much less messy. I have always worked on the premise that the easier a job is to complete the better. The less they will be put off to a later date.

Martin Olliver

Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Europa oil drain plug

Just to confirm. For the Europa oil tank the Saf-air oil drain part number:

M12175  [12mm x 1.75] This information sent to me by Saf-Air

Remi Guerner

Joined: 14 Dec 2010
Posts: 284

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:32 am Post subject: Re: Europa oil drain plug

A word of caution here: Rotax made a modification of the oil tank. The flat bulkhead at the bottom of the tank is now curved and therefore prevents the Saf-Air quick drain to be locked in the open position. See attached drawings from the Rotax IPCs.  The new bulkhead was introduced somewhere between 2016 and 2018. Surprisingly, the old bulkhead does not fit into the new tank. I do not know if Saf-Air has designed a new quick drain for the new tank. 

Remi Guerner

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Martin Olliver

Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:57 am Post subject: Re: Europa oil drain plug

Very good point Remi. 

I have a pre 2016 tank so it should not be a problem ðŸ¤ž

I think this thread illustrates how useful this site is for harvesting peopleâ€™s knowledge. On the face of it, a simple item to fit has implications.

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