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barp99(at)gmail.com
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 Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:00 pm Post subject: Mod 61A |
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I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and
am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning
kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly
install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is
justified.
Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A?
Brian Phillips
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cakeykev(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:35 pm Post subject: Mod 61A |
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Smartass is all I use. Brilliant.
Kevin Challis
| Quote: | On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:03, Brian Phillips <barp99(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is justified.
Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A?
Brian Phillips
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stranfaer(at)btinternet.c
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:15 am Post subject: Mod 61A |
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Stall strips and Smartass works very well
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| Quote: | On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:36, Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com> wrote:

Smartass is all I use. Brilliant.
Kevin Challis
> On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:03, Brian Phillips <barp99(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is justified.
> Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A?
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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:39 am Post subject: Mod 61A |
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BRIAN, Agreed the Smartass is brilliant and the best use of £200 or so invested in your plane. The Europa stall warner is not worth it as far as I am concerned - it is not very loud; it sounds outside your headset and is difficult to hear if you use noise cancelling ones and it it sounds during landing as you hold off so it is easy to get used to ignoring it. Stall strips are worth fitting for your test flying when it is good to have extra things ‘on your side.’ but they can be stuck on with some soft glue and removed later when you are comfortable with flying your plane.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On 2021-02-27 07:35, Kevin Challis wrote: | Quote: | --> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com (cakeykev(at)gmail.com)>Smartass is all I use. Brilliant. Kevin Challis | Quote: | | On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:03, Brian Phillips <barp99(at)gmail.com (barp99(at)gmail.com)> wrote:--> Europa-List message posted by: Brian Phillips <barp99(at)gmail.com (barp99(at)gmail.com)>I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is justified.Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A?Brian PhillipsAus |
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SteveIvell(at)pestproof.c
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:30 am Post subject: Mod 61A |
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It's not a particularly difficult job to do so I'd do it whilst the wing is open.
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Steve Ivell
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Pestproof Ltd.
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I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and
am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning
kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly
install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is
justified.
Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A?
Brian Phillips
Aus
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Peter jeffers
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:16 am Post subject: Mod 61A |
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As the representative of our regulating authority in the UK to The Europa Club, I must add to David's learned recommendation to remove stall strakes when testing has been completed that this action would NOT be allowed in the UK, .in  fact it could invalidate the UK permit to fly and possibly even the insurance.
What you choose to do outside the UK is up to you and YOUR regulating authority.
P G Jeffers LAA rep to The Europa Club
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BRIAN, Agreed the Smartass is brilliant and the best use of £200 or so invested in your plane. The Europa stall warner is not worth it as far as I am concerned - it is not very loud; it sounds outside your headset and is difficult to hear if you use noise cancelling ones and it it sounds during landing as you hold off so it is easy to get used to ignoring it. Stall strips are worth fitting for your test flying when it is good to have extra things ‘on your side.’ but they can be stuck on with some soft glue and removed later when you are comfortable with flying your plane.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
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Smartass is all I use. Brilliant.
Kevin Challis
On 27 Feb 2021, at 07:03, Brian Phillips <barp99(at)gmail.com (barp99(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
--> Europa-List message posted by: Brian Phillips <barp99(at)gmail.com (barp99(at)gmail.com)>
I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and complexity is justified.
Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A?
Brian Phillips
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:24 am Post subject: Mod 61A |
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I fitted stall Warner but added a light.
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JohnFrance
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| Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:52 am Post subject: Re: Mod 61A |
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Brian,
I have a stall warner with a light high up in front of the pilot plus a buzzer in the headlining which is switched off. The light is useful for judging landings as it gives a good visual warning of impending stall without alarming the passenger.
No stall strips on my aircraft and she stalls cleaning but I am registered I. France.
It is old school nowadays but it works.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:38 pm Post subject: Mod 61A |
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Hi everyone, thanks to all those folk that responded to my query, really
good to know there are so many people happy to help with their knowledge
on here.
Brian Phillips
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On 27/02/2021 5:59 pm, Brian Phillips wrote:
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I am getting ready to close up my XS Starboard wing on my trigear, and
am wondering if it is worth installing the Europa Mod 61A stall
warning kit. I plan to install a SmartASS air speed speaker, and
possibly install stall strips, so I am unsure if the extra work and
complexity is justified.
Does anyone here have any thoughts either way on use of Mod 61A?
Brian Phillips
Aus
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