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erichdtrombley(at)juno.co
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 Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:38 am Post subject: Powerslide Wheels |
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Chris,
After learning what Pete Z. and Ron P. were doing with the Powerslide wheels I ordered one from InlineWarehouse.com to give it a try. I have since ordered a second one.
https://www.inlinewarehouse.com/search-inline.html?sort=no&start=0&count=30&searchtext=Road+warrior+
I wasn’t too keen on the imbalance the valve stem creates and came up with a novel solution. After Pete Z. confirmed he runs his tires close to 10 psi, I realized I could replace the tube with thick wall 8mm silicone tubing. The silicone tube gives just the right amount of squish and retains the tire to the rim, and I don’t have to worry about a flat.
In full disclosure, I have only performed aggressive ground maneuvers to verify the suitability of the silicone tubing. Hope to test fly the new wheel once I remake the wheel fork with slightly different geometry to allow the larger tire/wheel to fit in the wheel well better. It fits fine while testing it on the ground, however, I suspect with wind loads it will have an issue retracting fully into the wing.
Regards,
Erich
N28ET Classic Mono 914
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peterz(at)zutrasoft.com
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:34 am Post subject: Powerslide Wheels |
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So a quick update on my foam-filled outrigger wheel performance. They are balanced well enough, but without any air pressure I do find the tire does slip on the wheel from landing wheel spin-up - which would make balancing interesting. I figure if I needed to balance exactly, I would attempt a 'bead-lock' using strategically placed wood-type screws. Haven't gone there yet. Their awesome bearings allow the wheels to spin up in flight (not great), but my simple/light/cheap rubbing fender appears to have eliminated that.
That said, I am extremely happy with their performance, much better wear, light weight (less G-streses on the outrigger and flap), elimination of the 'hammering' of the outrigger mechanisms when using the hard stock wheel on tarmac, and quietness (totally silent/drowned out by the tailwheel noise).
Cheers,
Pete
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 10:47 AM Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley(at)juno.com (erichdtrombley(at)juno.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Chris,
After learning what Pete Z. and Ron P. were doing with the Powerslide wheels I ordered one from InlineWarehouse.com to give it a try. I have since ordered a second one.
https://www.inlinewarehouse.com/search-inline.html?sort=no&start=0&count=30&searchtext=Road+warrior+
I wasn’t too keen on the imbalance the valve stem creates and came up with a novel solution. After Pete Z. confirmed he runs his tires close to 10 psi, I realized I could replace the tube with thick wall 8mm silicone tubing. The silicone tube gives just the right amount of squish and retains the tire to the rim, and I don’t have to worry about a flat.
In full disclosure, I have only performed aggressive ground maneuvers to verify the suitability of the silicone tubing. Hope to test fly the new wheel once I remake the wheel fork with slightly different geometry to allow the larger tire/wheel to fit in the wheel well better. It fits fine while testing it on the ground, however, I suspect with wind loads it will have an issue retracting fully into the wing.
Regards,
Erich
N28ET Classic Mono 914
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trevord
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:52 am Post subject: Powerslide Wheels |
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Hello Pete,
I copied your “pool noodle” Powerslide filled wheel idea and note your slippage issue.
In other applications, I find that regular clear bathroom silicone sticks anything to anything if it is dry and then not only sticks it well but waterproofs the thing.
It can be removed with a blade if you need to get it off later.
Perhaps that may be a better way to secure the wheel to the rim rather than screws which might create another imbalance – it will also stop water getting in ?
I already used black silicone to plug the valve hole.
Still some way off from flying my Europa but looking out for neat ideas like this.
Regards
Trevor
Europa Mono 272
From: <owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)> on behalf of Pete Zut <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com (peterz(at)zutrasoft.com)>
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Date: Wednesday, 5 January 2022 at 6:25 AM
To: europa-list <europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: Powerslide Wheels
So a quick update on my foam-filled outrigger wheel performance. They are balanced well enough, but without any air pressure I do find the tire does slip on the wheel from landing wheel spin-up - which would make balancing interesting. I figure if I needed to balance exactly, I would attempt a 'bead-lock' using strategically placed wood-type screws. Haven't gone there yet. Their awesome bearings allow the wheels to spin up in flight (not great), but my simple/light/cheap rubbing fender appears to have eliminated that.
That said, I am extremely happy with their performance, much better wear, light weight (less G-streses on the outrigger and flap), elimination of the 'hammering' of the outrigger mechanisms when using the hard stock wheel on tarmac, and quietness (totally silent/drowned out by the tailwheel noise).
Cheers,
Pete
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 10:47 AM Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley(at)juno.com (erichdtrombley(at)juno.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Chris,
After learning what Pete Z. and Ron P. were doing with the Powerslide wheels I ordered one from InlineWarehouse.com to give it a try. I have since ordered a second one.
https://www.inlinewarehouse.com/search-inline.html?sort=no&start=0&count=30&searchtext=Road+warrior+
I wasn’t too keen on the imbalance the valve stem creates and came up with a novel solution. After Pete Z. confirmed he runs his tires close to 10 psi, I realized I could replace the tube with thick wall 8mm silicone tubing. The silicone tube gives just the right amount of squish and retains the tire to the rim, and I don’t have to worry about a flat.
In full disclosure, I have only performed aggressive ground maneuvers to verify the suitability of the silicone tubing. Hope to test fly the new wheel once I remake the wheel fork with slightly different geometry to allow the larger tire/wheel to fit in the wheel well better. It fits fine while testing it on the ground, however, I suspect with wind loads it will have an issue retracting fully into the wing.
Regards,
Erich
N28ET Classic Mono 914
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Fred Klein
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:32 pm Post subject: Powerslide Wheels |
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I’m curious as to why there seems to be an aversion to inflating these Powerslide wheels…?...
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:52 pm Post subject: Powerslide Wheels |
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Only cuz the tube stem creates a bad imbalance, which requires Ron-sized efforts to correct.
| Quote: | On Jan 4, 2022, at 4:40 PM, fklein(at)orcasonline.com wrote:
I’m curious as to why there seems to be an aversion to inflating these Powerslide wheels…?...
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Fred Klein
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:07 pm Post subject: Powerslide Wheels |
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| Quote: | On Jan 4, 2022, at 1:51 PM, Pete <peterz(at)zutrasoft.com> wrote:
Only cuz the tube stem creates a bad imbalance, which requires Ron-sized efforts to correct.
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Pete…aha…thanks…and BTW, I’m quite satisfied with my 100 mm skateboard wheels w/ ABEX 9 bearings…not sure of their hardness but quiet and very low rolling resistance...my outrigger rods may be a bit longer than spec as I experience “teeter-toddering” only on taxiways with a high crown…they will not last forever...F.
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