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jimscjs(at)mbay.net
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: Manuals

I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my0 Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in0 English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas.

  

 Jim Selby

kregg(at)balancemyprop.co
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:25 am Post subject: Manuals

Jim,  

I havn’t had any experience with the FAA and Yak-18 manuals, but I do have someone that can transcribe the manual from Russian to English if it comes to that.  

   

Kregg Victory  

         

  

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim

 Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:18 AM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Manuals  

  

     

I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas.  

    

   

    

Jim Selby

Scooter

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 155

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:52 am Post subject: Re: Manuals

Is this an experimental exhibition aircraft?  If so you shouldn't need any manuals.



 	  jimscjs(at)mbay.net wrote: 	
		  I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my0 Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in0 English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas.

  

 Jim Selby

threein60(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: Manuals

Actually,  In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off.  All work must be done IAW the original or approved modified maintenance manuals.  I think you are referring to normal experimental catagory where maintenance manuals are not required only IAW FAR 43.13 APP D.

  Larry

  N8181C

  A&P



Scooter <yakk52(at)verizon.net> wrote:

  [quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" 



Is this an experimental exhibition aircraft? If so you shouldn't need any manuals.

jimscjs(at)mbay.net wrote:

[quote] I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my0 Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in0 English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas.

 

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Scooter

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 155

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Manuals

I almost hate to ask this then:  when I (a non-A&P or anything else) work on my Exp Exhibition aircraft do I need the manuals to sign-off the maintenance?  Or am I not permitted to work on the aircraft?

[quote="threein60(at)yahoo.com"]Actually,  In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off.  All work must be done IAW the original or approved modified maintenance manuals.  I think you are referring to normal experimental catagory where maintenance manuals are not required only IAW FAR 43.13 APP D.

  Larry

  N8181C

  A&P



Scooter <yakk52(at)verizon.net> wrote:

  [quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" 



Is this an experimental exhibition aircraft? If so you shouldn't need any manuals.

jimscjs(at)mbay.net wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I'm trying to get my Maintanance Manuals for my0 Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane off till there in0 English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any Ideas.

 

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threein60(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: Manuals

You are permitted to work on the aircraft but to only things listed in the FARs under preventative maintenance or under the supervision of a A&P.  A pilot can make a log book entry about preventative maintenance performed only.  An A&P still must sign off annuals (phase inspections) and Maintenance items.

  Larry



Scooter <yakk52(at)verizon.net> wrote:

  [quote]--> Yak-List message posted by: "Scooter" 



I almost hate to ask this then: when I (a non-A&P or anything else) work on my Exp Exhibition aircraft do I need the manuals to sign-off the maintenance? Or am I not permitted to work on the aircraft?

[quote="threein60(at)yahoo.com"]Actually, In experimental exhibition you need the manuals in order to sign the maintenance off. All work must be done IAW the original or

dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: Manuals

Larry,

 This issue has been cussed and discussed for years on this0 list.  To repeat, if you read FAR 43.1(b), it states " This part0 does not apply to any aircraft for which the FAA has issued an experimental0 certificate, unless the FAA has previously issued a different kind of0 airworthiness certificate for that aircraft. "  Therefore, FAR 43 in its0 entirety does not apply to our aircraft.  FAR 43 covers Maintenance,0 Preventive Maintenance, Rebuilding and Alterations.  The only time you need0 an A&P (not an I.A.) is for the annual condition inspection0 sign-off.   The Annual Condition Inspection IAW your Operating  Limitations must meet the scope and detail of FAR 43 Appendix D.

 Dennis

  

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talew(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: Manuals

Dennis,

 I absolute agree with your reading of the FAR's0 concerning maintenance on an experimental aircraft. 

  

 As far as the insurance issue , I'm sure the0 companies have all of this built into the price structure.

  

 Experimental aircraft are as reliable as the0 average spam can and may be better.

  

 Terry Lewis

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dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: Manuals

And I forgot to add, no A&P signature is required for any0 repairs made to the airplane.  And A&P must sign the annual condition0 inspection certifying the airplane is in a condition for safe0 operation.

 Dennis

  

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L39parts(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: Manuals

Actually, you don't need a maintenance program for0 a Yak  in the experimental exhibition caategory.  And there is no such0 thing as "normal" experimental category.

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L39parts(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: Manuals

Larry,

  

 Experimentals don't have annual inspections, and0 I've never heard of a "phase" inspection.  Of course I know what you meant,0 but the point is that you don't know.  You seem to not know a0 great deal about experimental planes.  For example, what is the point of0 having a maintenance manual?  It was written by some godless communist0 that never heard of the FAA's requirements.  The manuals were never been0 reviewed or approved by the FAA, so they have no legal standing.  The0 pictures are handy of course, provided you don't0 have to pay $20 for them...

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threein60(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: Manuals

Actually I know quit a bit.  I have been doing it professionally for 16 yrs.  Just because one can buy a plane doesn't give that owner any special authority in the eyes of the feds.  Those that truely want to know how this is viewed by the feds will find out.  Those of you who don't care what they say.....  Well it won't matter anyway.  I have no love for the FAA.  I think they are out of date and a hindrence to progress.   But the discussion is about how they view experimental exhibition maintenance.



Ron Davis <L39parts(at)hotmail.com> wrote:  [quote]        Larry,

   

  Experimentals don't have annual inspections, and I've never  heard of a "phase" inspection.  Of course I know what you meant, but the point is that you don't know.  You seem to not know a great deal about experimental planes.  For example, what is the point of having a maintenance manual?  It was written by some godless communist that never heard of the FAA's requirements.  The manuals were never been reviewed or approved by the FAA, so they have no legal standing.  The pictures are handy of course, provided you don't have to pay $20 for them...

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L39parts(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: Manuals

How many "annuals" have you done on experimentals0 in those 16 years?  How many "phase" inspections on experimentals?  If0 you've done any you're ahead of me- and everybody else.

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N7092A(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: Manuals

Jim I suggest you take Kregg up on the translation offer but you have to  make sure that you insist that the translator be present with you when she does  it.  I have seen her and she is hot!

  

 Mark

  

 In a message dated 8/7/2006 8:27:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  kregg(at)balancemyprop.com writes:

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Jim,   

I havn’t had any    experience with the FAA and Yak-18 manuals, but I do have someone that can    transcribe the manual from Russian to English if it comes to    that.   

    

Kregg    Victory   

             

   

From:    owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim

Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:18    AM

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Yak-List:    Manuals

   

       

I'm trying to get my Maintanance    Manuals for my Yak-18 transcribed into English, the FAA won't sign the Plane    off till there in English, has anyone had this Problem with the FAA. any    Ideas.

      

 

      

Jim    Selby



	


 

  

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