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mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: Introducing Myself

Hello Everyone,



I am new to the list and the Zenith world and was just chiming in to say 

hello to everyone.  I live on the West side of Houston Texas in Katy.



I have had my plans for the XL for a month or so and have already begun my 

Corvair conversion to WW's plans.  I am planning to scratch build my plane 

to primarily reduce costs, but the journey sounds like more fun this way as 

well.  I am really looking forward to the education I am about to receive, 

which I suppose is at the heart of the experimental category.



I am also a student pilot (172) with about 10 hours and at the rate I am 

going it will probably take me another year to finish up my PP License.  I 

considered the Sport Pilot License, but would like to enjoy my aircraft more 

than it would allow.



I am a recent addition to Chapter 774 out of Brookshire Texas which is 

headed up by Leonard of the Legal Eagle fame.



I completed a welding course recently and have begun practicing my gas 

welding in preparation for the many parts that will be welded.



I am already having a blast and looking forward to a lifetime involvement in 

the Aviation world.



I am sure that I will have many questions as I go along and will be looking 

toward everyone here to help me over some of the humps.



Thanks in advance for all your help,



Matt Stecher

p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: Introducing Myself

Hi Matt,



Welcome aboard.



I guess I am one of those guys who always asks nosy questions.  So I 

will go ahead and ask the two that came to mind while reading your 

introduction.



First, which parts on the Zodiac are welded?  I am a kit builder 

rather than scratch, so I suppose the factory does all the welding I 

need.  Still, I am nearly completed with my XL and I haven't seen any 

welded parts yet.



Second,  I must ask why you don't want to get the Sport Pilot 

certificate along the way to your Private.  It allows you to carry 

passengers and do most of the stuff you can do with a Private Licence 

anyway.  Perhaps you can find a nice pretty young lady to go on the 

long cross country flights you must do to qualify for the 

Private.  Sometimes, cross country flying can get pretty boring.



I wish you great luck and a lot of fun building your XL.  I think it 

is a great choice for a low time pilot to build.



Best regards,



Paul

XL fuselage

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At 06:14 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



Hello Everyone,



I am new to the list and the Zenith world and was just chiming in to 

say hello to everyone.  I live on the West side of Houston Texas in Katy.



I have had my plans for the XL for a month or so and have already 

begun my Corvair conversion to WW's plans.  I am planning to scratch 

build my plane to primarily reduce costs, but the journey sounds 

like more fun this way as well.  I am really looking forward to the 

education I am about to receive, which I suppose is at the heart of 

the experimental category.



I am also a student pilot (172) with about 10 hours and at the rate 

I am going it will probably take me another year to finish up my PP 

License.  I considered the Sport Pilot License, but would like to 

enjoy my aircraft more than it would allow.



I am a recent addition to Chapter 774 out of Brookshire Texas which 

is headed up by Leonard of the Legal Eagle fame.



I completed a welding course recently and have begun practicing my 

gas welding in preparation for the many parts that will be welded.



I am already having a blast and looking forward to a lifetime 

involvement in the Aviation world.



I am sure that I will have many questions as I go along and will be 

looking toward everyone here to help me over some of the humps.



Thanks in advance for all your help,



Matt Stecher

Jaybannist(at)cs.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: Introducing Myself

Paul,  There are quite a few welded parts in the kit: Motor mount attach / canopy pivots, gear attach brackets, rudder pedals, control torque tube, control sticks, control connection (for dual sticks), flap control tubes, flap actuator bracket, just to name0a few.

 

 Jay in Dallas, working on XL fuselage

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rjscep(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: Introducing Myself

 	  Quote: 	
		   WELCOME Matt, nice to see another true homebuider.

 I am building (from plans) a 701. Bought a set of

 plans from a guy that bought a  Savannah kit. I just

 finished my spars and there ready for riveting. Feel

 free to email me for any advice, I'll be glad to 

 help. Bob Sceppa < do not archive>


	


--- Matt Stecher <mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net>

 

 Hello Everyone,

 

 I am new to the list and the Zenith world and was

 just chiming in to say 

 hello to everyone.  I live on the West side of

 Houston Texas in Katy.

 

 I have had my plans for the XL for a month or so and

 have already begun my 

 Corvair conversion to WW's plans.  I am planning to

 scratch build my plane 

 to primarily reduce costs, but the journey sounds

 like more fun this way as 

 well.  I am really looking forward to the education

 I am about to receive, 

 which I suppose is at the heart of the experimental

 category.

 

 I am also a student pilot (172) with about 10 hours

 and at the rate I am 

 going it will probably take me another year to

 finish up my PP License.  I 

 considered the Sport Pilot License, but would like

 to enjoy my aircraft more 

 than it would allow.

 

 I am a recent addition to Chapter 774 out of

 Brookshire Texas which is 

 headed up by Leonard of the Legal Eagle fame.

 

 I completed a welding course recently and have begun

 practicing my gas 

 welding in preparation for the many parts that will

 be welded.

 

 I am already having a blast and looking forward to a

 lifetime involvement in 

 the Aviation world.

 

 I am sure that I will have many questions as I go

 along and will be looking 

 toward everyone here to help me over some of the

 humps.

 

 Thanks in advance for all your help,

 

 Matt Stecher 

 

 

 

 



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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: Introducing Myself

TELL me about it.  lol  I've spent the last two days doing nothing but cutting 4130 parts to weld together.  The kit builders are lucky they don't have to do any of this.  Then again, my rudder pedals only cost $60, and my Gear Brackets were less than $30 each.  I'd rather have dirty hands than an empty pocketbook any day! 



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Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		   Paul,  There are quite a few welded parts in the kit: Motor mount attach / canopy pivots, gear attach brackets, rudder pedals, control torque tube, control sticks, control connection (for dual sticks), flap control tubes, flap actuator bracket, just to name a few.

 

 Jay in Dallas, working on XL  fuselage

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Ron Lendon

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 685
Location: Clinton Twp., MI

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Introducing Myself

Welcome to the wonderful world of scratch building.  This web site will be your Q & A and research tool.  If you have any questions just ask.

_________________
Ron Lendon
WW Corvair with Roy's Garage 5th bearing
CH 601 XLB
N601LT - Flying
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
Corvair Engine Prints:
https://sites.google.com/site/corvairenginedata/

Kevin Bonds

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 171
Location: Nashville, Tn

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: Introducing Myself

Tom or Bren  

   

What method are you using to cut your 4130 parts. I am about to start on them myself.  

     

Kevin Bonds  

Nashville TN  

601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.  

Empennage done; working on wings and engine.  

http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds  

   

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From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom and Bren Henderson

 Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:52 PM

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Introducing Myself  

  

   

    TELL me about it.  lol  I've spent the last two days doing nothing but cutting 4130 parts to weld together.  The kit builders are lucky they don't have to do any of this.  Then again, my rudder pedals only cost $60, and my Gear Brackets were less than $30 each.  I'd rather have dirty hands than an empty pocketbook any day! 

 

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 Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:  

Paul,  There are quite a few welded parts in the kit: Motor mount attach / canopy pivots, gear attach brackets, rudder pedals, control torque tube, control sticks, control connection (for dual sticks), flap control tubes, flap actuator bracket, just to name a few.

 

 Jay in Dallas, working on XL fuselage

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KevinBonds
Nashville, TN
Plans-building Zenith CH601XL w/Corvair Power
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds

admin(at)arachnidrobotics
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: Introducing Myself

Just Tom.  Bren is the better half, but she just want to ride in the airplane.  Not build it.  lol  

    I'm using a cold saw to cut the 4130 tubing used in the rudder pedals, control sticks, etc. and a Bridgeport mill to put the 'half-rounds' in the end of some of the tubes. 

    For parts like the Gear Brackets and anything else from flat sheet, I'm using a CNC laser.  If you let me know what you're looking for, I can cut a few extras as I get to mine.  I'm not sure in what order I'll be fabricating everything, but I'll have to build it all sometime or another.  Contact me off-list if you're interested.  The material isn't cheap, but it's not too bad compared to the pre-fab part.



    



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  What method are you using to cut your 4130 parts. I am about to start on them myself.

   

    Kevin Bonds

  Nashville TN

  601XL Corvair powered;  Plans building.

  Empennage done; working on wings and engine.

  http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds

   

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  From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom and Bren Henderson

 Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:52 PM

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Introducing Myself

  

   

      TELL me about it.  lol  I've spent the last two days doing nothing but cutting 4130 parts to weld together.  The kit builders are lucky they don't have to do any of this.  Then again, my rudder pedals only cost $60, and my Gear Brackets were less than $30 each.  I'd rather have dirty hands than an empty pocketbook any day! 

 

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 Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:

  Paul,  There are quite a few welded parts in the kit: Motor mount attach / canopy pivots, gear attach brackets, rudder pedals, control torque tube, control  sticks, control connection (for dual sticks), flap control tubes, flap actuator bracket, just to name a few.

 

 Jay in Dallas, working on XL fuselage

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Rick Roberts

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 28
Location: Orlando, FL

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:19 am Post subject: Introducing Myself

Welcome Matt and strap yourself in.  You'll learn more about domed rivet Vs bucked, red Scotchbrite Vs green, to oil can or not to oil can, Corvair Vs Allison V-12  you get the picture.  Wouldn't trade it for anything ! !

   

  Hope to meet you at Sun & Fun.  These are a great bunch of folks with a lot of knowledge.

   

  Enjoy and DO NOT ARCHIVE.

   

  



Matt Stecher <mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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		  --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt Stecher" 



Hello Everyone,



I am new to the list and the Zenith world and was just chiming in to say 

hello to everyone. I live on the West side of Houston Texas in Katy.



Thanks in advance for all your help,



Matt Stecher  



	


Rick 

Sharpsburg, GA. USA 

http://www.n701rr.com

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Low & Slow,
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
www.n701rr.com

dredmoody(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: Introducing Myself

Odd coincidence here..... I'm a general dentist.0 For me, clean hands are how my pockets get less empty. Go figure.

  

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601zv(at)ritternet.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:49 am Post subject: Introducing Myself

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bill_dom(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:05 am Post subject: Introducing Myself

Hi Matt,



Welcome to the list. I’m also a 601XL scratch builder

planning to hang a Corvair in the front, I already

have my core and the WW manual but I’m working in the

airframe for now.  



A very important piece of advice that I’m sure I won’t

be the only one telling you, download the part layout

from www.ch601.org and cut your sheet metal according

to this. If you do this, you will save a lot of money.

This might surprise some kit builders but if you

scratch build the 601XL based on this part layout, all

the sheet metal needed to build the 601XL will come

around $2,000. Add $500 to $1,000 for more materials

to cover damaged parts plus another $2,000 for

extrusions, tubes, hardware, rivets and you can get

your airframe for about $5,000. I know this because

I’m currently working in my second big material order

and I already budgeted for the third and final one.

Based on Yarde metals quotes, after I have purchased

all the materials I would have spent around $2.000 in

sheet metal, including shipping and handling. 



I was originally planning to buy the materials as I

need them but I changed my mind and now I’m planning

to buy all remaining sheet metal before the end of

October. The reason behind is that the price of the

material is rising uncomfortably fast. 



William Dominguez

Zodiac 601XL Plans

www.ea-report.com

barcusc(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: Introducing Myself

Hi Matt:



Welcome to the group. I am one of the guys taking the short route (Kit 

Built) however, one of my friends is scratch building and I think he will be 

flying before me. I am building the 601XL, Corvair Powered, and I am down to 

the fuselage, hopefully it won't be long now. I finished rebuilding my 

engine after attending Corvair College, I am using most of William's 

components. I just need to buy a carb, wires and plugs and I would be ready 

to start it. I am in the Houston area every few weeks, do you think your 

chapter would mind a visitor from chapter 1343? It sure would be more 

interesting than sitting in a hotel.



Clyde Barcus

601 XL, Hendersonville, TN

barcusc(at)comcast.net



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