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Lynn Matteson
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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 Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: Kitfox-Fuel Flow... ERROR recalled |
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Cliff pointed out the error in my message of yesterday where I said
that I had removed the finger screens from my model IV. He mailed me
directly, and I responded to him directly, but the message bounced back
to me. I've copied my reply to him below. I'm doing this because I
don't want to reprint his message to me, but I want the collective
group to understand that I was in error when I said that I removed the
screens...I had not, and neither should anyone.
| Quote: | Cliff-
You are absolutely correct regarding the finger screens, and now that
I've had my afternoon nap and evening flight, I can say that I was
wrong in stating that I removed the screens....I HAD NOT removed the
screens, only the quick drains (per suggestions from this group). I
must've been so quick to respond with some "words of wisdom" that I
forgot what changes I had made.
Thanks for correcting me and making me recall exactly what I did.
Hell, I even recall telling my neighbor what the finger screens were
for and how cleverly they could allow crud to pile up on them and
still flow fuel.
Geez, is there any way to add "archive, do not " to my earlier post?
Kids, do not try this (removing finger screens) at home!!!
(an embarrassed) Lynn
p.s. I owe the "barefoot pilot" a pair of shoes for pointing that
blunder out : )
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On Monday, August 21, 2006, at 05:24 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
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I have removed the finger screens in both tanks, as well as the
quick-drains in each tank, per suggestions from this group. I stole an
idea from Bill Willyard (thanks, Bill) and used a quarter-turn shutoff
valve in each fuel line (8 inches down from the tanks) just ahead of
an in-line Purolator glass filter (now sold by NAPA) then down to my
header tank (thanks Deke) which acts as a gascolator. I use this as my
sump drain to check for water, contaminants, etc. One of these days
I'll use a suction gun to get right down to the bottom of the header
tank and see what has accumulated there. From the header tank I go
through another glass filter before the Facet pump and then onto the
Jabiru's mechanical pump.
Like you Gary, I have seen my tanks use a little more from one side
than the other, then it will change. Because I'm learning to fly, I am
practicing maneuvers, and probably doing more to one side than the
other on occasion. When I hangar the plane, I park it level, and the
next day the tanks are equal, as I leave the tank valves open and
things normalize overnight.
One of these days, I'll shut off the two feed lines and see how my
low-fuel warning system works....maybe while cruising right over the
airport. : )
Lynn
Kitfox IV Speedster...Jabiru 2200
On Monday, August 21, 2006, at 09:11 AM, Algate wrote:
> Good morning
>
>
>
> I flew a short cross country on the weekend from Barrie to the UPAC
> (Ultra Light Pilots Association Canada) convention near Waterloo
> (approx 100 miles).
>
>
>
> My new acquisition performed great but I noticed that the pilot side
> tank drained at almost twice the rate of the Passenger side. I have
> heard stories that if you fly un-coordinated this can happen but I
> was definitely flying straight and true.
>
>
>
> When I landed I checked the fuel flow from the tank into the header
> but it was excellent (I have a large puddle to prove it).
>
>
>
> I have no valves in the system other than the main fuel shut off
> under the panel and although I’m sure that both tanks would
> eventually drain I really don’t understand the variation. I have a
> low fuel warning mounted on my header so I will do some circuits to
> see if the tank drains completely before the other one starts to
> flow.
>
>
>
> Do I have a problem or is it normal to see unequal fuel flow?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Gary Algate
>
> Model 4 / Jab2200
>
>
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: Kitfox-Fuel Flow... ERROR recalled |
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Hi Lynn,
Just to say- I've started writing about this, (removing the first an most
important "barrier" in the fuel system is...)
Glad to hear that this was an error..
Torgeir
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:21:53 +0200, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
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>
Cliff pointed out the error in my message of yesterday where I said that
I had removed the finger screens from my model IV. He mailed me
directly, and I responded to him directly, but the message bounced back
to me. I've copied my reply to him below. I'm doing this because I don't
want to reprint his message to me, but I want the collective group to
understand that I was in error when I said that I removed the
screens...I had not, and neither should anyone.
> Cliff-
> You are absolutely correct regarding the finger screens, and now that
> I've had my afternoon nap and evening flight, I can say that I was
> wrong in stating that I removed the screens....I HAD NOT removed the
> screens, only the quick drains (per suggestions from this group). I
> must've been so quick to respond with some "words of wisdom" that I
> forgot what changes I had made.
> Thanks for correcting me and making me recall exactly what I did. Hell,
> I even recall telling my neighbor what the finger screens were for and
> how cleverly they could allow crud to pile up on them and still flow
> fuel.
>
> Geez, is there any way to add "archive, do not " to my earlier post?
>
> Kids, do not try this (removing finger screens) at home!!!
>
> (an embarrassed) Lynn
> p.s. I owe the "barefoot pilot" a pair of shoes for pointing that
> blunder out : )
>
On Monday, August 21, 2006, at 05:24 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
>
> I have removed the finger screens in both tanks, as well as the
> quick-drains in each tank, per suggestions from this group. I stole an
> idea from Bill Willyard (thanks, Bill) and used a quarter-turn shutoff
> valve in each fuel line (8 inches down from the tanks) just ahead of an
> in-line Purolator glass filter (now sold by NAPA) then down to my
> header tank (thanks Deke) which acts as a gascolator. I use this as my
> sump drain to check for water, contaminants, etc. One of these days
> I'll use a suction gun to get right down to the bottom of the header
> tank and see what has accumulated there. From the header tank I go
> through another glass filter before the Facet pump and then onto the
> Jabiru's mechanical pump.
>
> Like you Gary, I have seen my tanks use a little more from one side
> than the other, then it will change. Because I'm learning to fly, I am
> practicing maneuvers, and probably doing more to one side than the
> other on occasion. When I hangar the plane, I park it level, and the
> next day the tanks are equal, as I leave the tank valves open and
> things normalize overnight.
>
> One of these days, I'll shut off the two feed lines and see how my
> low-fuel warning system works....maybe while cruising right over the
> airport. : )
>
> Lynn
> Kitfox IV Speedster...Jabiru 2200
>
> On Monday, August 21, 2006, at 09:11 AM, Algate wrote:
>
>> Good morning
>>
>> Â
>>
>> I flew a short cross country on the weekend from Barrie to the UPAC
>> (Ultra Light Pilots Association Canada) convention near Waterloo
>> (approx 100 miles).
>>
>> Â
>>
>> My new acquisition performed great  but I noticed that the pilot side
>> tank drained at almost twice the rate of the Passenger side. I have
>> heard stories that if you fly un-coordinated this can happen but I was
>> definitely flying straight and true.
>>
>> Â
>>
>> When I landed I checked the fuel flow from the tank into the header
>> but it was excellent (I have a large puddle to prove it).
>>
>> Â
>>
>> I have no valves in the system other than the main fuel shut off under
>> the panel and although I’m sure that both tanks would eventually
>> drain I really don’t understand the variation. I have a low fuel
>> warning mounted on my header so I will do some circuits to see if the
>> Â tank drains completely before the other one starts to flow.
>>
>> Â
>>
>> Do I have a problem or is it normal to see unequal fuel flow?
>>
>> Â
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Â
>>
>> Gary Algate
>>
>> Model 4 / Jab2200
>>
>> Â
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