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 Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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I'm currently in California getting my LSA repairman maintenance rating. This afternoon we were doing some fabric work and the instructor pulled out a wing from a crashed Ultrastar. My first reaction when looking at the wing root fittings was shock. Compared to my Mk III and Firestar it seemed the swivel and the spar follow through fitting had been installed backward. Donnie at TNK couldn't answer my question (you don't have TNK on speed dial?) and we both agreed if anyone could it would be John H. After some reflection I think everything might be per Homer, but I'm still interested in learning the answer.
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David.Lehman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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Rick...
I'm not sure this is what you're asking about, but the Ultrastar wing pivots on the front fitting, not the rear fitting like all the other Kolbs do...
David
On 8/22/06, Richard Girard <jindoguy(at)gmail.com (jindoguy(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: | I'm currently in California getting my LSA repairman maintenance rating. This afternoon we were doing some fabric work and the instructor pulled out a wing from a crashed Ultrastar. My first reaction when looking at the wing root fittings was shock. Compared to my Mk III and Firestar it seemed the swivel and the spar follow through fitting had been installed backward. Donnie at TNK couldn't answer my question (you don't have TNK on speed dial?) and we both agreed if anyone could it would be John H. After some reflection I think everything might be per Homer, but I'm still interested in learning the answer.
Thanks guys,
Rick
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David.Lehman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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Rick...
I forgot, there's some pictures here of the folded Ultrastar wing...
www.frugalbee.com/.../body_kolb_ultrastar.html
David
On 8/22/06, Richard Girard <jindoguy(at)gmail.com (jindoguy(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: | I'm currently in California getting my LSA repairman maintenance rating. This afternoon we were doing some fabric work and the instructor pulled out a wing from a crashed Ultrastar. My first reaction when looking at the wing root fittings was shock. Compared to my Mk III and Firestar it seemed the swivel and the spar follow through fitting had been installed backward. Donnie at TNK couldn't answer my question (you don't have TNK on speed dial?) and we both agreed if anyone could it would be John H. After some reflection I think everything might be per Homer, but I'm still interested in learning the answer.
Thanks guys,
Rick
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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David, Like I said, I figured it was per Homer even though it looked so odd
at first glance. Just trying to expand my knowledge base. The link doesn't
work, but thanks for responding.
On 8/22/06, David Lehman <david(at)davidlehman.net> wrote:
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Rick...
I forgot, there's some pictures here of the folded Ultrastar wing...
*www.frugalbee.com/.../body_kolb_ultrastar.html*<http://www.frugalbee.com/.../body_kolb_ultrastar.html>
David
On 8/22/06, Richard Girard <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm currently in California getting my LSA repairman maintenance rating
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George Myers
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:52 am Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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List...I'm getting blank msgs...maybe beloved verizon is doing it?
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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David.Lehman
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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Same here, although I received this one...
DVD
On 8/23/06, Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net (a58r(at)verizon.net)> wrote: | Quote: | --> Kolb-List message posted by: Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net (a58r(at)verizon.net)>
List...I'm getting blank msgs...maybe beloved verizon is doing it?
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ies such as the Subscriptions page, ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB F= tronics.com"> - bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==
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George Myers
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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Here'e the correct link
http://www.frugalbee.com/Kolb_Ultrastar/fold4686.JPG
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Thom Riddle
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: One of them dreaded questions |
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Regarding "blank messages", it may not be just Verizon. I have Adelphia.net cable connection and several messages show up with headers but no content. Of course that could be sender error too. Not suggesting it is, just another possible cause.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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| Quote: | >>>I'm not sure this is what you're asking about, but the Ultrastar wing pivots on >>>>the front fitting, not the rear fitting like all the other Kolbs do...
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Maybe this depends on the year the UltraStar was built? When I bought my UltraStar in 1994, it came with a set of blueprints dated 1984 that show the wings hinged on the front fitting, but the plane is built with the wings hinged on the rear fitting. Picture here of the wings folded:
http://www.iverstuff.com/my_1984_kolb_ultrastar.htm (scroll down for second and third pic)
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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I'm at a loss for words.....
BB
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Russ Kinne
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:24 am Post subject: One of them dreaded questions |
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Me too - you're not alone
On Aug 23, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Bob Noyer wrote:
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