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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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 Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: Clecoes |
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Today, I was placing A4 clecoes and I found that several were loose in the holes; not clinched. Upon examination, I found that the two "clincher" tangs would only retract to the end of the center "expander" tang. I began looking at the box of clecoes I was using and found about 50 in this condition. I tried lubricating one with household oil and another with graphite with no improvement. Has anyone else had this problem? Is this a common failure mode or am I doing something wrong?
Jay in Dallas, working on XL fuselage
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: Clecoes |
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It must be fairly common. I had maybe 10 of 150 with the same problem. At 30 cents each, it wasn't worth my time fixing them and they were tossed.
Jaybannist(at)cs.com wrote:[quote] Today, I was placing A4 clecoes and I found that several were loose in the holes; not clinched. Upon examination, I found that the two "clincher" tangs would only retract to the end of the center "expander" tang. I began looking at the box of clecoes I was using and found about 50 in this condition. I tried lubricating one with household oil and another with graphite with no improvement. Has anyone else had this problem? Is this a common failure mode or am I doing something wrong?
Jay in Dallas, working on XL [quote][b]
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grs-pms(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: Clecoes |
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Sometimes a shot of WD-40 fixes this problem. Worth a try before pitching the cleco, anyway.
George
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planejim(at)bellsouth.net
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: Clecoes |
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Jay,
A couple of quick questions about the clecoes. 1) Were they new? 2) If not new, were they in thick metal such as spars for some period of time? If they are new then they are probably just defective. If they were in thick metal for a period of time, the internal springs have stretched. I have a can of these stretched clecoes that I can only use in thick metal installations.
I do occasionally put my clecoes in a bucket or can of oil from time to time, soaking them awhile and then putting them on a cloth for a day or so to drain. Messy but effective. I've been using some of the same clecoes for about fourty years. I do throw some away when they no longer do the job. I find some of the newer types don't work as well as the old timers did when they were YOUNG. The same thing applys to me too!
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Jim Hoak 601HD - Rotax 912UL - 525hours
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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: Clecoes |
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Jim, I only started (kit) building in December, so I'd have to say the clecoes were new. I have no idea where I might have used them. I have built tail, both wings and about half of the fuselage. I'll try the "soak" treatment, but won't get real upset if I have to throw them out.
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rstone4(at)hot.rr.com
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: Clecoes |
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Jay,
Why not at least try to return them to the people you bought them from. 30 Cents is not much money but 150 times that 30 cents is $45.00 and that's too much to just throw away. Also if the people who you bought them from will not take them back or at least exchange them, be sure to let all on the list know who they are. Venders who do not treat their customers fairly in a small market place do not last very long.
Bob Stone
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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: Clecoes |
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Bob, I am going to try the "soak" treatment. If that does no good, I just might take your advice. And, you are right, I wouldn't just throw away $45 for no reason. Jay [quote][b]
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