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Total Messages Posted Sat 08/26/06: 31
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1. 12:10 AM - Re: Re: Getting out of an overturned XL, Strong enough... (Gary Gower)
2. 03:51 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Leakage Test (Martin Pohl)
3. 05:14 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Robin Bellach)
4. 05:51 AM - battery location (Jean-Paul Roy)
5. 06:02 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Robin Bellach)
6. 06:11 AM - Test (Bill Naumuk)
7. 06:26 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Jean-Paul Roy)
8. 06:40 AM - Gear box installation (Bill Naumuk)
9. 07:05 AM - Re: Gear box installation (David Mikesell)
10. 07:59 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Robert L. Stone)
11. 08:07 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Todd Osborne)
12. 08:15 AM - Re: Self-etching primer (Dave and Jan Clay)
13. 08:29 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Edward Moody II)
14. 08:41 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Edward Moody II)
15. 08:48 AM - Re: Self-etching primer (Edward Moody II)
16. 09:03 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Robert L. Stone)
17. 10:16 AM - RE : Re: Self-etching primer (Carlos Sa)
18. 10:43 AM - Re: GPS Navigation (Paul Mulwitz)
19. 11:27 AM - Re: RE : Re: Self-etching primer (LarryMcFarland)
20. 11:58 AM - Re: RE : Re: Self-etching primer (Dave Ruddiman)
21. 12:28 PM - Strobe light audio noise (MElrod3732(at)aol.com)
22. 12:48 PM - Re: GPS Navigation (Edward Moody II)
23. 01:03 PM - Re: GPS Navigation (Edward Moody II)
24. 01:54 PM - Re: Strobe light audio noise (Chuck Deiterich)
25. 03:20 PM - Survivable plane crash... (Grant Corriveau)
26. 03:20 PM - Re: Strobe light audio noise (Paul Mulwitz)
27. 04:23 PM - polish update (neitzel)
28. 04:30 PM - Re: slotless flaplaron & Bungee tool (johndread(at)wildblue.net)
29. 04:46 PM - Re: Test (johndread(at)wildblue.net)
30. 06:28 PM - Re: Strobe light audio noise (4rcsimmons(at)comcast.net (Rich Simmons))
31. 10:16 PM - Strobe noise (Mark Sherman)



________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________


Time: 12:10:22 AM PST US
From: Gary Gower <ggower_99(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Getting out of an overturned XL, Strong enough...

I have already made a comment about this some time ago... Hope is in the archives,
If I didnt put the "do not..".

As short as possible:

Planes are designed to fly not to crash or roll over. First because is very important
to fly it down, If you fly it down it will touch down (even in an emergency
out of airport) at a slow speed (one good point of the Zentih Aircrafts)
that it will absobe the energy (G,s over yor body) and IF it rols over it will
do it in "slow motion" so the rudder and/or fuselage will protect you.

In the remote case of a crash in an uncontroled manner, the inertia and speed
will build up so fast (in any airplane, from ultralights up) that even if the
unfortunate pilot is flying a winged Daytona stock car will the huge roll cage,
his/her fragile body will not survive the impact G's...

So in case of emergency landing because an engine off: Keep calm, remember your
classes, keep control of the airplane, fly the airplane down, fly the airplane
down, fly the airplane down ALL THE WAY until it stops.

If you fail your aproach, dont be shy to aply power and try again, instead of
unsuccesfuly trying to stop the over shooted airplane in the last 100 ft of strip
before the front wheel hits the ditch at the end Smile Smile I WILL roll
over!

When ever you dont have a place to go flying, instead of just burning gas, go to
a little airtrip (if your airport is big and lots of traffic) and practice
dead stick landings to the numbers, this fun trainning, will pay in the very
rare case you ever suffer a engine out landing...

One last thing, The ZAC airplanes are the more "landing friendly" airplanes in
his class.

Saludos
Gary Gower
701 912S , building a 601 XL.
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.

Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com> wrote:
"Craig Payne"

I think that if you look at the photo I linked to the supporting hoops
behind the seats did not collapse. I believe someone on the list actually
inspected that particular plane after it flipped. So maybe they can provide
more information.

www.ch601.org/stories.htm

Van's is featuring the roll bar in the (unreleased) rv-12 but (judging by
the small photographs on the Van's site) I don't see any more roll-over
protection in the pictures of the rv-3, rv-4, rv-6, rv-8 or rv-9 than the
601XL has. In most of these I see a single, large-ish tube between the
fixed, forward portion of the canopy and the rear, movable portion. I would
predict that the two interlocked tubes on the XL would be less likely to
fold forward or backward. Can anyone with more hands-on knowledge of the
various Van's models comment? Any pictures out there of flipped rv's?

-- Craig



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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________


Time: 03:51:41 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Leakage Test
From: "Martin Pohl" <mpohl(at)pohltec.ch>



Thank you for all your ideas. Will try how that works...

Cheers Martin

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Martin Pohl
Zodiac XL QBK
8645 Jona, Switzerland
www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL


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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________


Time: 05:14:51 AM PST US
From: "Robin Bellach" <601zv(at)ritternet.com>
Subject: Re: GPS Navigation

Bob,
11-02222 is $399 in the regular catalog. It's the AirMap 500 handheld
with 3" black and white 240x180 LED display. 11-02222 is the AirMap
2000C with 5" 386-color 320x240 TFT display. These definitely ARE NOT
the same unit.
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