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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: John H's position

So John;



Am I to take it after all the flaperon, flap  debate that you fall into the

camp of separate flaps and ailerons? I am heading down to London first of

next month to size up the Mark IIIX for myself (since the 172 finally sold)

and at some point I need to start planning for the separate flap option.



I ask specifically because as an Army flight surgeon I always looked at the

principal function of Army W O s as keeping the FS from killing himself when

he take the flight controls.



Todd



PS: Thanks for attaching the separate photos of Miss P'Fer to some of your

posts. They make great screensavers to muse over....

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John Hauck

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: John H's position

| Am I to take it after all the flaperon, flap  debate that you fall 

into the

| camp of separate flaps and ailerons?



|

| I ask specifically because as an Army flight surgeon I always looked 

at the

| principal function of Army W O s as keeping the FS from killing 

himself when

| he take the flight controls.

|

| Todd



Hi Todd/Gang:



Well..........I don't fall into any camp.  I am pretty much an 

individualist.



Have been extremely lucky, with a 22 year close association with both 

old and new Kolb.  I got to fly and compare most of the Kolb models. 

Not just a quick flight, but extensively.  This was a great way of 

gathering info and making decisions on what I build, what I modify, 

and what I fly.  Made it very easy for me to determine what works best 

for me.



It does not lend much credence, to me, for someone to tell me how much 

better one system works than the other, when  they do so without 

actual experience of flying both systems.  In some cases, without any 

experience flying a Kolb.



I don't sell airplanes, so I can be very honest in my opinions of what 

works for me, and what does not.  I think I have the best that Kolb 

offers in a 16 year old design, with a few of my own mods thrown in to 

make my type of flying more comfortable and more likely to accomplish 

successfully.



To me, flaps work much better than flaperons.  Some aileron authority 

is lost with the flaperon system.  They are not nearly as effective in 

steep approaches and landings as the flaps.



I wasn't a WO, but I know what you mean.  I always relied on them to 

keep me out of trouble, even to this day.  I am very fortunate to have 

a good friend and a retired Army CWO to fly with each year.  I always 

learn something when I am flying with him.



You are more than welcome for the photo posts.



john h

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: John H's position

Well this is all good because when I spoke to Izek at OSH he told me that I

could order the IIIX with flaps as an option so I think that is the way to

go. I am going to be doing a lot of what you are doing and my 64 172E with

40 degrees of available flaps and my now-departed Maule M5-235C spoiled me

rotten for their ability to maintain a vertical line without excessive

airspeed.



My 900 feet of upsloping ridgeline will like the Kolb immensely I think.



So I take it that you were an RLO?



Really excited to work with a fine airplane and be able to envision trips to

far away places...



Todd



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