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cscsail(at)gmavt.net
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:54 am Post subject: Rotax

I'm at the point were I need to order  something that will make noise and spin a propeller. It's going to be a  Rotax 912ULS and from what I can tell online, everyone seems to sell this  engine for about the same price including Zenith. I was wondering if anyone  had any advise for who to deal with. I've got to believe that some are  better than others especially if I were to have a problem with the engine.  I'm in Northern Vt. (no snow yet) so Canada may also be an option.

 Thanks,

 Gordon

 CH701    

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planejim(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:09 am Post subject: Rotax

Gordon,

  

 Mine is the 80 HP Rotax that I got through Zenith  

 10 1/2 years ago. All my service has been through  Lockwood Aviation with great service. I've used them because I'm located in the  Southeast. Several other Rotax dealers offer good service too; LEAF, CPS, South  Mississippi etc. I've talked with all of them from time to time. Good folks, all  of them. Initial purchace should work through any one of them. My 2 cents for  what it is worth.

  

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 Jim Hoak 601HD - Rotax 912UL - 530  hours

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: Rotax

Hi Gordon,



 I have no experience with this product, but it seems to me that one big variable would be the shipping cost and method.  I know ZAC gets huge discounts from Yellow Freight, but there might be a supplier in your neighborhood that would be better for you to do business with.



 Paul

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		  I'm at the point were I need to order something that will make noise and spin a propeller. It's going to be a Rotax 912ULS and from what I can tell online, everyone seems to sell this engine for about the same price including Zenith. I was wondering if anyone had any advise for who to deal with. I've got to believe that some are better than others especially if I were to have a problem with the engine. I'm in Northern Vt. (no snow yet) so Canada may also be an option.

 Thanks,

 Gordon

 CH701    

 	
 

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 Paul Mulwitz

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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: Rotax

Gordon, Rotax does not give dealers any real margin on the products so that's why the prices are pretty much the same everywhere you go. So basically find a dealer that's relatively close and has good service. I can vouch the folks (at) Aeropropulsion just outside of Montreal, that's probably not too far from you. Their website is at http://www.rotaxservice.com/

Might I suggest the Warp Drive propeller for your plane. It's a perfect match for a 912 and smooth as silk. I've owned various props from both the US and Europe and they're one of the best if you want to have a North American prop. European props (DUC, Woodcomp, etc) are excellent as well however much more expensive (the DUC was superb).



Also, ZAC has a new cowling and FWF kit of the 701 that was originally designed in Germany (http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/7-engine.html). It's way nicer and better than the kit ZAC has been using over the years but I know others have had great experience with the CZAW FWF kit sold by SkyShops as well (http://www.skyshops.org/FIREWALLFOW.htm) . I've seen their cowl on the weekend and it makes a 701 look fantastic!



I'm currently switching over to the CZAW cowl kit for my 601.

 Trev Page

C-IDUS 601HD R912

 



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[quote]I'm at the point were I need to order something that will make noise and spin a propeller. It's going to be a Rotax 912ULS and from what I can tell online, everyone seems to sell this engine for about the same price including Zenith. I was wondering if anyone had any advise for who to deal with. I've got to believe that some are better than others especially if I were to have a problem with the engine. I'm in Northern Vt. (no snow yet) so Canada may also be an option.

Thanks,

Gordon

CH701    

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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Rotax

Trevor,

     Thanks for the info.  I liked the appearance of the CZ cowling as well and ordered the CZAF FWF kit from skyshop in mid July, so  hopefully it will be arriving soon. As I recall,  they provide a  woodcomp propeller with the kit.     

 I'll check with Aeropropulsion in the morning.

 Gordon

          

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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: Rotax

Gordon--

  I've dealt with two differnt vendors.  I purchased my 912uls from Lockwood 

in Florida since they are a known quantity and are excellent on support.

  I also have a Rotax 582 that I have had rebuilt twice by  Light Engines in 

Ontario Canada. Also excellent service and was a great help in 

troublshooting some early issues.

   Wish there was a dealer in the northeast



George May

601XL 912s

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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:51:17 -0400



I'm at the point were I need to order something that will make noise and 

spin a propeller. It's going to be a Rotax 912ULS and from what I can tell 

online, everyone seems to sell this engine for about the same price 

including Zenith. I was wondering if anyone had any advise for who to deal 

with. I've got to believe that some are better than others especially if I 

were to have a problem with the engine. I'm in Northern Vt. (no snow yet) 

so Canada may also be an option.

Thanks,

Gordon

CH701


	


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N601RT

Joined: 25 Feb 2006
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Location: Hillsboro, Oregon

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Rotax

Gordon,



I purchased my 912ULS from a small dealer who sold mostly two stroke Rotaxes. 20-20 hindsight is this could have been a mistake. I live in Oregon and now do most of my Rotax business with Lockwood. As already noted, most of the prices are very similar.



I like Lockwood because:

Phil Lockwood does Rotax seminars across the country. I find him personable, helpful and approachable.

Lockwood has a free tech line. 

Lockwood seems to be a high volume Rotax dealer and has a good parts supply. They probably have fresh engines.



I don't like Lockwood's return policy (something like 10% restocking fee for returns). I also don't like Lockwood's web page, which can be very difficult to navigate and can be slow.



CPS is the closest dealer to me. Mike who runs CPS can be less than pleasant. In my experience, the people who answer CPS's phones are not as courteous or as knowledgeable as those at Lockwood.



You may consider posting your question to the RotaxEngines-list that Matronics hosts.



IF you were getting a Warp Drive prop, I was going to recommend NOT getting the nickel leading edge inlay. The inlay increases the rotational mass of the propeller so it may not remain within the Rotax specification.



Regards,



Roy



N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 632hrs, 730 landings

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