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Tommy Walker

Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 442
Location: Anniston, AL 36207

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: Riveting oneself into a corner

Like the proverbial painter, I've gotten myself into a corner and wondered if anyone has a solution short of drilling all the rivets out and starting over correctly.



If you look at the attached picture, you can see where my problem is.  I can't get the two holes in the 7F12-4 Gusset riveted.  The problem is caused by the 15 degree angle in the 7F5-2SP Side Channel.  I should have set these two rivets in the Gusset and tubes before I set it in place, but I didn't  There's not enough room for my manual or air powered rivet guns to set the rivet flush.  I tried grinding off the side of the nose on the rivet gun, but still can't get the head to set flush.



Any ideas would be appreciated.  I bought a cheap HF rivet gun with a swivel head thinking I might be able to wiggle around and get it to work....  Alas, all my wiggling has been for naught.

  



Tommy Walker in Alabama

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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: Riveting oneself into a corner

On May 26, 2006, at 12:40 PM, Tommy Walker wrote:



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 <twalker(at)cableone.net>



 Like the proverbial painter, I've gotten myself into a corner and  

 wondered if anyone has a solution short of drilling all the rivets  

 out and starting over correctly.



 If you look at the attached picture, you can see where my problem  

 is.  I can't get the two holes in the 7F12-4 Gusset riveted.  The  

 problem is caused by the 15 degree angle in the 7F5-2SP Side  

 Channel.  I should have set these two rivets in the Gusset and  

 tubes before I set it in place, but I didn't  There's not enough  

 room for my manual or air powered rivet guns to set the rivet  

 flush.  I tried grinding off the side of the nose on the rivet gun,  

 but still can't get the head to set flush.



 Tommy:


	


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		   If all else fails, would a bolt and nut work?


	


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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: Riveting oneself into a corner

Hi Tommy,



Try grinding the dimpled face of your nose piece at a 15 degree angle and 

then redimple  it, or  you can accomplish the same thing by making a 

separate angled and dimpled attachment to slip over the rivet stem before 

you pull it.  You can then angle the riveter into the corner while the 

crooked nose piece gives you a flush set on the rivet.  The rivet stem will 

be pulled at an angle but you'll get a straight set on the rivet.



Dave, 701 with A80-8 Continental



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If you look at the attached picture, you can see where my problem is.  I can't

get the two holes in the 7F12-4 Gusset riveted.  The problem is caused by the

15 degree angle in the 7F5-2SP Side Channel.

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dbortol

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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Riveting oneself into a corner

I just felt like drawing something. See the attached photo (30KB).



Dino Bortolin

La Salle, Ontario

XL/Corvair



 	  dpfisher(at)scottsbluff.n wrote: 	
		  Hi Tommy,



Try grinding the dimpled face of your nose piece at a 15 degree angle and 

then redimple  it, or  you can accomplish the same thing by making a 

separate angled and dimpled attachment to slip over the rivet stem before 

you pull it.  You can then angle the riveter into the corner while the 

crooked nose piece gives you a flush set on the rivet.  The rivet stem will 

be pulled at an angle but you'll get a straight set on the rivet.



Dave, 701 with A80-8 Continental



At 12:58 AM 5/27/2006, you wrote:

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If you look at the attached picture, you can see where my problem is.  I can't

get the two holes in the 7F12-4 Gusset riveted.  The problem is caused by the

15 degree angle in the 7F5-2SP Side Channel.

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Tommy Walker

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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:01 am Post subject: Riveting oneself into a corner

--> Zenith-List message posted by:  "dbortol" <dbortol(at)gmail.com (dbortol(at)gmail.com)>

       

      I just felt like drawing something. See the  attached photo (30KB).

       

      Dino  Bortolin

      La Salle,  Ontario

       XL/Corvair

      



 Very neat Dino.  I wish I had the equipment to turn  that drawing into a steel nose piece.  My file and hand drill made  one, but not anything that looked as good as your drawing.

  

 Tommy Walker in Alabama

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dbortol

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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:50 am Post subject: Riveting oneself into a corner

Me too. I'm lusting after a mill and a lathe, which I would convert

myself to CNC. But I don't have the space in the garage, and I can't

allow myself to pick up another hobby until after the plane is done.

So I'll be making one with my drill press and disc grinder.



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On 9/26/06, Tommy Walker <twalker(at)cableone.net> wrote:

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       I just felt like drawing something. See the attached photo (30KB).



       Dino Bortolin

       La Salle, Ontario

       XL/Corvair

 Very neat Dino.  I wish I had the equipment to turn that drawing into a

 steel nose piece.  My file and hand drill made one, but not anything that

 looked as good as your drawing.



 Tommy Walker in Alabama

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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: Riveting oneself into a corner

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hey guys, there's an easier way than having to work up a nosepiece to fit  your job.  Several years ago somebody on this list came up with an easy  way:  As I recall, it went like this:   1: Using the appropriate  size bit, drill a hole lengthwise into a chunk of bolt or round bar.  2:   Cut the bolt or bar to an appropriate length, on a slant  that will give you room for the riveter. Cup the slanted end as with the  nosepiece.  3: Slip the mandrel through your "new nosepiece", and into the  riveter, putting a slight bend in the mandrel.  You then get a pull  perpendicular to the work, with your riveter on a slant.  I had several  rivets that I needed to do this, and it worked.

  

 Paul Rodriguez

 601XL/Corvair

 Still on the canopy

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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: Riveting oneself into a corner

Isn't that a description of what Dino so nicely drew,  or am I missing something?

  

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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject: Riveting oneself into a corner

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Dunno. Didn't look. Probably his one picture is worth my thousand  words.

  

 Paul Rodriguez

  

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