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Ralph Hoover
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Central Ohio
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 Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: New Member Panel Question |
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Mike Schnabel
For color coordination of gauges to panel you receive a 10 out of a posible 10.
For number of instruments, a 9 out of 10. "ulfiler", and Bill Vincent beat you by one instrument. They also have more switches, lights and stuff. Always a great thing to show potential pilot. (As an old Harley guy, chrome spoke for us. It didn't matter if it ran or not. When people looked at it they knew you was the man. HA Ha!) Stuff is good, therefore more stuff is better.
For location, location, location; you receive a 9 out of a 10 only because your center gauge (ASI) is not perfectly centered in the vertical.
I will have to deduct a point also for that structural bolt holding your windscreen post mount. I'll give that point back if you paint it white or black.
Now if you also located that ASI in that spot with future intent of installing a bubble indicator, then I will add an additional point AND give you your removed point allowing a 11 to a posibel 10 point. As the "self appointed Instrument panel /gauge cluster judge, I am allowed to do that.
THerefore, all in all, you have a better than perfect score. Keep up the good work. And remember you other guys: : "Sometimes it's not about the flying. It's also about looking good for the hanger monkeys. Eye candy"!
And, I also like the heel brakes. That'l let one turn on a dime, I'll bet.
Judge not, least you be judged, here in Ohio, or anywhere for that matter, Ralph!
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a58r(at)verizon.net
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: New Member Panel Question |
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Question for all you hps: Do you have any time to actually look around and see the world unfolding beneath you, or are you busy reading and trying to make sense of all those, gages, dials, clocks and pseudo-IFR round cutouts? I don't doubt that someone will proudly show us an ALL GLASS COCKPIT soon! Odd that many pooh-pooh GA, but go right ahead and actually install as many, and in some instances, more clocks/holes than many GA planes. With a little training you can do IFR with Needle. Ball, and Airspeed.
Let the Thread Begin.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: New Member Panel Question |
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I'm with you BN. No row of circuit breakers for me, all inline
automotive fuses
behind the panel. I don't expect them to pop and haven't been
disappointed.
-Besides, resetting a circuit breaker is just kidding yourself;
something is wrong.
Better fix it now.
Have to admit though, watching Thom Riddle's fancy multicolored moving
map
gizmo last sunday was fascinating. I remember my old aironicky had
about 4
gages in front and a fine view. My neighbor had an ifr citabria with a
panel so
tall you couldn't see out. I told him the first thing I would do is
take a hacksaw
and cut the durn thing down to size! Now in his old age he's flying a
single place
flightstar. Still has more gages than I do.
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On 23, Sep 2006, at 6:11 PM, Bob Noyer wrote:
| Quote: | Question for all you hps: Do you have any time to actually look around
and see the world unfolding beneath you, or are you busy reading and
trying to make sense of all those, gages, dials, clocks and pseudo-IFR
round cutouts? I don't doubt that someone will proudly show us an ALL
GLASS COCKPIT soon! Odd that many pooh-pooh GA, but go right ahead and
actually install as many, and in some instances, more clocks/holes
than many GA planes. With a little training you can do IFR with
Needle. Ball, and Airspeed.
Let the Thread Begin.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
do not archive
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Ralph Hoover
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: New Member Panel Question |
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B.B. said:"My neighbor had an ifr citabria with a panel so tall you couldn't see out. I told him the first thing I would do is take a hacksaw and cut the durn thing down to size! Now in his old age he's flying a single place
flightstar. "
See, that's the problem with you old time pilots, get the weight down and remove the obstructions. Now what kind of advise is that? Any real pilot knows that 707, 727, 737, 747, (whew) 757, 767, 777 and the new, as yet announced 787, all have itsi-bitsi windows to look out of. The major aircraft manufacturers have studied the problem and have discovered that if you can get them to rely on instruments rather than seat of the pants and visual's like what out the window, you can improve the get from here to there procedures and skip the barnstorming. THe only reason that large commercial airplanes have windows at all is to provide the pilot with reference to day and night. And the only reason for that is so when the pilot gets on the mike to greet the passengers, they know to say: "Good morning, Ladies and Gentlemen, and welcome to ....." and replace the time reference with afternoon or evening. I was talking with one of the chief engineers at Lockheed-Martin just the other day about this issue. He stated to me, quite emphatically that they were working on a light bulb system and then they could remove all the windows up front!
Technology today has advanced to the point that a small hole in the nose of the plane, a small digital camera and a 14" flat screen mounted on the center of the instrument panel can show you "everything" that's out front worth seeing. Why, just think about it. All one would have to do is take a TV tray and mount a flat screen display on it, set it on their lap, and bobs your uncle! We need to forge forward outa the dark ages gentlemen and into the new technical age of information, information, information (marketing people, who know, suggest if you want to get them to remember it, you repeat it three times).
Ah yes, improving the fun of flying, while removing the "danger" factor.
Ohio Ralph
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Possum
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: New Member Panel Question |
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At 06:11 PM 9/23/2006, you wrote:
>Question for all you hps: Do you have any time to actually look
>around and see the world unfolding beneath you, or are you busy
>reading and trying to make sense of all those, gages, dials, clocks
>and pseudo-IFR round cutouts?
OK .. I'll be your Huckleberry.
Just got a new "wide angle lens" today.
Test it out in the next few days.
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Possum
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: New Member Panel Question |
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At 07:41 PM 9/23/2006, you wrote:
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Why, just think about it. All one would have to do is take a TV tray
and mount a flat screen display on it, set it on their lap, and
bobs your uncle!
Ah yes, improving the fun of flying, while removing the "danger" factor.
Ohio Ralph
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No ....... that's why we do this thing we do.
It's so we "don't" remove the danger factor.
That's the only reason we do it.
It's not a game - it's as real as you want to make it.
Anyone can go to Disney World and ride the scary roller coster!
You won't die.
Or play an online game and get killed.
You won't die!
But we have only "one man" with what we do.
And you can die!
That's what makes it real.
I've Scuba dived, Sky dived, Climbed rocks...etc, etc, etc.--- boring.
This is the only thing that I've done - that has lasted - 25 years.
It is dangerous because it's real.
It's real because it's dangerous.
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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: New Member Panel Question |
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I don't do flight sims because I suck at it. I doubt I would be
much better at RC.
Do pretty good with real airplanes, in spite of instead of because of
any danger. Sensuous without drugs.
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On 23, Sep 2006, at 11:43 PM, possums wrote:
| Quote: | At 07:41 PM 9/23/2006, you wrote:
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<flht99reh(at)Columbus.rr.com>
>Why, just think about it. All one would have to do is take a TV tray
>and mount a flat screen display on it, set it on their lap, and
>bobs your uncle!
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Mike Schnabel
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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Location: Manchester, TN
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: New Member Panel Question |
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Dear "self appointed Instrument panel /gauge cluster judge" Ralph...
sorry its talken so long to respond, my Yahoo email will not allow replies... have i used my annual quota of Kolb list messages already??? I finally realized that the forum was another way to post... so here goes!
Well, just wanted to offer my sincere thanks for your kind words on my humble cluster of gauges... i really can take no credit. Designed and built by Bryan Melborn, he knew what a Kolb flyer needed to see. Though, i would like to add a slip indicatior just above the ASI, just as you thought!
Thanks again,
(looking forward to hearing from the TNK Homecoming crowd, and how as the event??)
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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