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Richard Rabbers

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:28 am Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Hello list, particularly the Michigan area group



Here's another excuse to go flying..... and maybe meet up with other Kitfoxers, etc.  Hope for good weather.... and come on down.

This is a nice little airport and a nice quiet setting for a fall gathering. 



(Hey Lynn! - no trophies, but I'd guess you and your clean machine might draw a crowd. Bill Willyard is going to try to make it, so you better clean the bugs off.)



C-585 web page 

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/8911/





Event details

October 15, 2006

The famous Chapter 585 Chili Hop.  Held at theWatervliet Airport (40C), this event brings pilots from all over the Mid-west as it doesn't really get started till late morning.  The October weather can be brisk, but the fall colors are worth the flight.  This event includes cider and doughnuts, and of course CHILI !! A hay ride around the airport is always popular for both young and old.

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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

I'll be there, Richard....Sport Pilot Cert. in hand (if I get the 

checkride done), or with yet another endorsement from my instructor to 

drop in there. That's about 3 weeks away, so barring any weather, 

airplane, or examiner problems, I should have the checkride done by 

then....passing it? Oh, you mean I gotta PASS the thing? Oh, darn!



I just looked up the runway info on 40C, and it sounds like you guys 

need to plant some trees, eh, Richard? : )



Lynn



On Tuesday, September 26, 2006, at 01:28  PM, Richard Rabbers wrote:



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 <rira1950(at)yahoo.com>



 Hello list, particularly the Michigan area group



 Here's another excuse to go flying..... and maybe meet up with other 

 Kitfoxers, etc.  Hope for good weather.... and come on down.

 This is a nice little airport and a nice quiet setting for a fall 

 gathering.



 (Hey Lynn! - no trophies, but I'd guess you and your clean machine 

 might draw a crowd. Bill Willyard is going to try to make it, so you 

 better clean the bugs off.)



 C-585 web page

 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/8911/

 Event details

 October 15, 2006

 The famous Chapter 585 Chili Hop.  Held at theWatervliet Airport 

 (40C), this event brings pilots from all over the Mid-west as it 

 doesn't really get started till late morning.  The October weather can 

 be brisk, but the fall colors are worth the flight.  This event 

 includes cider and doughnuts, and of course CHILI !! A hay ride around 

 the airport is always popular for both young and old.



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 Richard in SW Michigan

 Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64026#64026

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Richard Rabbers

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

WATERVLIET - sorry for type-o.

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Great Lynn... see you there, assuming the planets align.

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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

I've got it on the calendar Richard.  It's about 200 air miles so I'll plan

on camping, weather permitting.

Deke



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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Traveling with the family, so I'll miss it. Hope to make the next Great Lakes group get together.

  Fred

  

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Richard Rabbers

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Bill, Lynn, Deke  ...  glad for your positive replies.

- I'll be glad to assist with any road work, chauffeur. 

.... maybe I'll hang my wings on the jeep:)



Fred... enjoy your trip. See you next time.



Richard



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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Fred,

I plan on bringing two kitfox's up for the fly-in. Are there hotels nearby? 

Jeff Classic IV Columbus, Ohio

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Richard Rabbers

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Great! Jeff - TWO foxes ! I think that makes 6. 



So far potential Kitfoxers are: Bill Willyard, Lynn Matteson, Deke Morisse, John May, Jeff Pulsâ€¦ 1,2,3,4,6 Kitfoxes!!!!!!! .... still room for more. 



Sorry I canâ€™t offer accommodationsâ€¦ 

My current living situation would be topped by any camper. Next time (next year) Iâ€™ll gladly offer bunk space to any Great Lakes Kitfox pilot. (and any other Kitfox pilot...)

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		  Jeff asked...Are there hotels nearby? 	


I did a bit of searchingâ€¦ only Willow Paw is confirmed.

Iâ€™ll gladly pursue further â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦..



The closest motel isâ€¦  

Exit 41 Motelâ€¦.	 (Local but unconfirmed)

137 E St Joseph

Watervliet, MI  49098

Tel: (269) â€¦. Streets and maps # is incorrect



Willow Paw Motel â€¦. (~ 2 miles west, confirmed openâ€¦. Rates $50-75)

4881 Wil O Paw Dr

Coloma, MI  49038

Tel: (269) 468-6080



â€¦â€¦. Lots of options over toward Benton Harbor/St. Joe.

Iâ€™ll be glad to shuttle. 



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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

Richard Rabbers

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Chili Hop - CANCELLED

.......... due to forecasted weather and field condition.

Maybe another time - great weather - same or another place.



Sorry this didn't work out. 

I think we were up to 7 pilots (KF owners or interests) and 6 Kitfoxes.



Enjoy some Chili at home... 

- let's keep trying for a meet-up ..... 

--------------------------------------------

I stopped by Riverside Airport in Jenision, MI, (Bill Willyard's home base) just East of Grand Rapids, on an unplanned drive late last week....  I asked if Bill might be around. An instructor said.... Yeh, I know who your talking about.. WHAT a BEAUTIFUL airplane he has! 



... It was a beautiful day Bill. Sorry I missed you. 



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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Damn! Here I was hoping to "come on down" and get gassy on some of the 

northern chili (you're about 2 minutes north of me geographically) and 

cider. And of course POSSIBLY show off my temporary SP license, if that 

happens this week.



Lynn

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On Monday, October 9, 2006, at 02:52  PM, Richard Rabbers wrote:



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 <rira1950(at)yahoo.com>



 Chili Hop - CANCELLED

 .......... due to forecasted weather and field condition.

 Maybe another time - great weather - same or another place.



 Sorry this didn't work out.

 I think we were up to 7 pilots (KF owners or interests) and 6 Kitfoxes.



 Enjoy some Chili at home...

 - let's keep trying for a meet-up .....

 --------------------------------------------

 I stopped by Riverside Airport in Jenision, MI, (Bill Willyard's home 

 base) just East of Grand Rapids, on an unplanned drive late last 

 week....  I asked if Bill might be around. An instructor said.... Yeh, 

 I know who your talking about.. WHAT a BEAUTIFUL airplane he has!



 ... It was a beautiful day Bill. Sorry I missed you.



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 Richard in SW Michigan

 Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=66786#66786

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Richard Rabbers

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

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		  show off my temporary SP license 	




You're clearly motivated Lynn. Thanks for sharing your story as you near the mark. Sorry this carrot's gone. I know the cheers will fly when you do, with your new paperwork!



If we could manage to push back winter just a week!

or............ just relay your news and we'll strike up the band.



If you feel like flying..(ha).. there's a known good dry grass (sand and good drainage) at Newman's (4NO) just NW of Kalamazoo. A chapter 221 member has a house and hanger there ... so that's a possibility or maybe your new book has some other places.



If you want some pavement practice...  BEH is always an option.

... or some nice day I'll head over your way.... 



Hey? is you're friends seaplane going to see the water before it freezes?

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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

Bill Willyard

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 34
Location: Grandville, Michigan U.S.A.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Sorry to hear this Richard, I was looking forward to it weather permitting.

   Also sorry we could not get together at the Jenison airport as well. I don't know which flight instructor you talked with, but one in particular really likes the sound of my 912 on departure.

    

   Thanks

   Bill W. 

    

  

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		  Chili Hop - CANCELLED

......... due to forecasted weather and field condition.

Maybe another time - great weather - same or another place.



Sorry this didn't work out. 

I think we were up to 7 pilots (KF owners or interests) and 6 Kitfoxes.



Enjoy some Chili at home... 

- let's keep trying for a meet-up ..... 

--------------------------------------------

I stopped by Riverside Airport in Jenision, MI, (Bill Willyard's home base) just 

East of Grand Rapids, on an unplanned drive late last week....  I asked if Bill 

might be around. An instructor said.... Yeh, I know who your talking about.. 

WHAT a BEAUTIFUL airplane he has! 



.. It was a beautiful day Bill. Sorry I missed you. 



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Richard Rabbers

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

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		  Bill W. sez .... Sorry to hear this Richard, I was looking forward to it weather permitting. 

Also sorry we could not get together at the Jenison airport as well. I don't know which flight instructor you talked with, but one in particular really likes the sound of my 912 on departure. 



Thanks 

Bill W.  

	




Weâ€™ve not managed to push back this first blast of winter. Hopefully there will be a long fall after this cold wave.



Yes Bill, that's the one.....he liked the sight, AND the sound of your Fox. 



Lynn, you may want to drop in with your Jabaru sound. (though it may not be audible over the marching band. Spotters are posted all over the state... ?where will he go first? )

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Well you guys... at least you're all flying. 

I know we'll find an opportunity to get together one of these days.

...... 

 Opps, correction on previous message - Jenison/Riverview is WEST of G.R.



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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Richard-

I got most of the oral out of the way today, but previous time 

commitments took the examiner away before it, and the ride itself, 

could be finished. We're hoping for tomorrow, but rain may dampen that 

parade. My instructor and the examiner went for a ride so that the 

examiner could see how a Kitfox handles...he loves it.



I had an interesting landing after leaving my instructors place and 

headed for lunch at Napoleon (3NP). I had loaded up my briefcase into 

the passenger seat and did the checklists for starting, etc., got down 

to the takeoff end of the runway, did the "before takeoff checklist" 

and took off. I came in on niner at 3NP, let it down in a slip over the 

trees, and began to flare at the appropriate time, and my stick 

wouldn't pull all the way back. I gave it some power and eased it down, 

and got it in alright, but it was scary. Taxied to the parking spot and 

began looking at what could have caused the stick to come up 

short....you guessed it...the briefcase was turned the long way in the 

seat and blocked the stick. Just then my instructor pulled up in his 

truck. I told him that I really learned something today, and told him 

what happened, and he was surprised, saying that it looked like a nice 

landing to him. Another lesson learned. I had taken the briefcase with 

me before, but had always strapped it up against the seat back before. 

This time I was hurrying to get to the airport lot before my instructor 

did so we could go to lunch. What's that old song about "get there 

itis?"  This is one for MY book that's for sure!



Not only did I learn about getting in a hurry, but also about just 

going through the motions about these checklists. I did the "flight 

controls free and correct" but got a little bit lacking on the "free" 

part of it. Guess I'll have to write "free and correct" a hundred times 

on the blackboard tonight. : )



The seaplane has flown...and has some issues with the landing gear not 

being all that it could be, like breaking once and bending once. The 

weak part is the axle or spindle. He is going to get some training for 

his less-than-perfect landings, so maybe that will help. He is going to 

get a hangar at 3NP today, and my instructor will see to it that he 

gets some help before he flies it again.



Lynn

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On Monday, October 9, 2006, at 04:55  PM, Richard Rabbers wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <rira1950(at)yahoo.com>

> show off my temporary SP license

 You're clearly motivated Lynn. Thanks for sharing your story as you 

 near the mark. Sorry this carrot's gone. I know the cheers will fly 

 when you do, with your new paperwork!



 If we could manage to push back winter just a week!

 or............ just relay your news and we'll strike up the band.



 If you feel like flying..(ha).. there's a known good dry grass (sand 

 and good drainage) at Newman's (4NO) just NW of Kalamazoo. A chapter 

 221 member has a house and hanger there ... so that's a possibility or 

 maybe your new book has some other places.



 If you want some pavement practice...  BEH is always an option.

 ... or some nice day I'll head over your way....



 Hey? is you're friends seaplane going to see the water before it 

 freezes?

 do not archive



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 Richard in SW Michigan

 Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=66797#66797

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Richard Rabbers

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Benton Harbor, MI - USA

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Lynn,



You're gaining and sharing lots of experience.

I recall you suggesting 'I' be careful.  Same to you, buddy. 



Second chances don't always happen. Glad your story had a happy ending. 



Wheel landings.... 

I'm no expert, but enjoyed the challange of learning (in a Champ)

Will pursue again if / when wheels go on.

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Richard in SW Michigan
Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:56 am Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Where and when will this "marching band" festival happen? I'll be glad 

to go there, if the weather clears up and I can get the 'ride done and 

approved. From the sounds of things weather-wise, I need to get some 

ski training done as well as the wheel landings that some people are 

strongly suggesting. I'm gonna check with my instructor this morning 

about the "wheelers", and I'm gonna also check Earl/Ed? Downs book "How 

to fly your Kitfox" to recall what he said about landings. I seem to 

recall that he said three-pointers only.

lynn

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On Tuesday, October 10, 2006, at 11:30  AM, Richard Rabbers wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 <rira1950(at)yahoo.com>

> Bill W. sez .... Sorry to hear this Richard, I was looking forward to 

> it weather permitting.

> Also sorry we could not get together at the Jenison airport as well. 

> I don't know which flight instructor you talked with, but one in 

> particular really likes the sound of my 912 on departure.

>

> Thanks

> Bill W.

>

 Weâ€™ve not managed to push back this first blast of winter. Hopefully 

 there will be a long fall after this cold wave.

 Yes Bill, that's the one.....he liked the sight, AND the sound of your 

 Fox.

 Lynn, you may want to drop in with your Jabaru sound. (though it may 

 not be audible over the marching band. Spotters are posted all over 

 the state... ?where will he go first? )

 --------------

 Well you guys... at least you're all flying.

 I know we'll find an opportunity to get together one of these days.

 ......

  Opps, correction on previous message - Jenison/Riverview is WEST of 

 G.R.

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 Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)

 Read this topic online here:

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N369LM

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:01 am Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

I'm waiting for a call from the examiner this morning, but don't expect 

it to be a "go" for a checkride today...more like Sat or Sun at best.



Yeah, Richard, I sometimes fall into the 'stuff' and come out smellin' 

like a rose, and yesterday was no exception...I got real lucky, and 

learned a good lesson. My instructor told me I just "used up one of my 

99 lives"...imagine, 11 times luckier than a cat!



Lynn

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On Tuesday, October 10, 2006, at 11:35  PM, Richard Rabbers wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <rira1950(at)yahoo.com>



 Lynn,



 You're gaining and sharing lots of experience.

 I recall you suggesting 'I' be careful.  Same to you, buddy.



 Second chances don't always happen. Glad your story had a happy ending.



 Wheel landings....

 I'm no expert, but enjoyed the challange of learning (in a Champ)

 Will pursue again if / when wheels go on.

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 Richard in SW Michigan

 Model 1 / 618 - full-lotus floats (restoration)





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67070#67070

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Bill Willyard

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 34
Location: Grandville, Michigan U.S.A.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

Lynn,

    

    Carrying that briefcase will give you a head start on your wheel landing technique.

    

   Bill W.

  

    

 >....you guessed it...the briefcase was turned the long way in the seat and blocked the stick. 

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: Watvliet, MI - Chili Hop Flyin (10/15/06)

That's a good one, Bill!

Actually, I did do a wheel landing one day inadvertently...I was 

landing solo and didn't "bury the hatchet" (as my instructor calls 

getting the stick back in your gut), and it went along on the mains for 

awhile before I woke up to the fact.



Lynn

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		   Lynn,

  

  Carrying that briefcase will give you a head start on your wheel 

 landing technique.

  

 Bill W.

  

  

 >....you guessed it...the briefcase was turned the long way in the 

 seat and blocked the stick.

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