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nfivesl(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

Hi guys:



I have a question for 601XL drivers.  My engine is

ready for first fire and I'd like to start it in my

driveway before installing my wings.  



Has anybody done this?  Did it work out OK?  I just

want to run my engine for about 20 minutes to break it

in before bringing it to the airport and installing

the wings.  



No offense intended but please don't reply if you just

have an opinion.  I've been inundated with opinions

from my local EAA buddies and I'm getting some pretty

mixed signals.  I don't want to re-create that here on

the email list.



I'd like to hear from folks who have 601XL's and

running engines.  Again, I don't want to start a

debate, just cold, hard facts from those who have been

there and done that (or chosen not to).  



Thanks and keep up the great discussions,



Scott Laughlin

www.cooknwithgas.com

Inches from starting the engine for the first time.

601XL / Corvair



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craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

As you probably know WW insists on a cooling duct for such a long ground

run. Or will you be using the nose bowl, shroud and baffling? And he really

really recommends the prelube with the dummy distributor and electric drill.

I would ensure my CHT, oil pressure and oil temp sensors and my EMS were

reading true before such a long run. Stick the oil temp sender in boiling

water, test the spark plug thermocouples with a source of heat in the

expected temperature range, etc.



Otherwise I don't see how what you are planning to do differs from running

your engine on a test stand (which many have done). What prop will you be

using?



-- Craig



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daveaustin2(at)can.rogers
Guest

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

Scott,

I tied the tail of my 601 to a tree beside the driveway and ran it up

several times, with no wings on it.  Far better to find any leaks, bugs,

overheating etc before it is away at the airport.  Hope all goes well!

Dave Austin  601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII

gfmjr_20(at)HOTMAIL.COM
Guest

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

My engine is

 	  Quote: 	
		  ready for first fire and I'd like to start it in my

driveway before installing my wings.


	




Scott--

   No opinion--just fact.  I did my first runup on my 912 in my driveway.  

No wings and no canopy. That last part was interesting.  I tied the main 

landing gear to a tree and choked all the wheels. My main interest was to 

insure that I did not have any leaks with all the hoses used on the 912.

  Make sure you have a couple of good fire extinguishes available--just in 

case.

I used a 5 gallon plastic gas can with 3 gallons in it for my main fuel 

source and insure that it was secured against being blown over.

   Everythinng worked fine--no fire no leaks but it sure was windy without 

the canopy.   I've since repeated a similar runup but this time I tied the 

plane to the trailer hitch on my truck. Worked fine.



George May

601XL 912s



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rstone4(at)hot.rr.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

Scott,

     If you want to run your engine in your driveway, call the local police 

and explain what you want to do and see if there is a city ordinance 

prohibiting this.  If not go ahead but be very careful especially when 

neighborhood children are around.  A spinning prop cannot be seen and all 

neighbors are going to be interested in what you are doing.



Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx

ZodiacXL

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dredmoody(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

Not exactly an apples and apples comparison but.....



When I broke in the Rotax 503 engine on my ultra-not-so-light, I tied it to the basketball goal post at the edge of my driveway. It had stood up to a direct hit from Hurricane Lili that shredded my shingles so I figured it was strong enough. 



The break in was an hour long schedule of various rpm settings for specified lengths of time. There was a roofing crew working on the house across the street and when the hour was up and I shut it down, there was a collective "ThankGod!" from the roofers.



On the practical side, I had my wife reading out the rpm/time schedule via the intercom and a friend on guard duty watching to make sure no neighborhood kids got near the sawhorse and folding table barricades that we set up for a safety zone.



If you have enough security staff for safety and no local noise ordinances and the blessings of your neighbors, go for it. If any of those are missing, don't do it.



Ed Moody II

barcusc(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

I plan on running in my engine in the very near future also, I have already 

spoke to all of my neighbors about it. I assured them it would be in the 

middle of the day and I would make sure I had plenty of help so their would 

be no chance someone would get hurt. Several of them actually volunteered, 

they have never seen an aircraft actually being built so they are very 

interested. I do not plan on contacting the police because they are not 

likely to show up without a complaint. I am waiting on a couple of parts 

from William Wynne and a carburetor, then it will be time to turn the key on 

my Corvair. I have had a lot of delays for various reasons but I am 

beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully I will be flying 

soon.



Regards



Clyde

601XL

Hendersonville, Tn



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n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

I ran my 801 for several hours on and off till I mounted the wings and transported it to the airport, All I did was to supply fuel to the lines at the wing root. I don't see a problem at all. In fact I am curious to the negative comments you have heard. 

do not archive

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



-- N5SL <nfivesl(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl(at)yahoo.com>



Hi guys:



I have a question for 601XL drivers.  My engine is

ready for first fire and I'd like to start it in my

driveway before installing my wings.  



Has anybody done this?  Did it work out OK?  I just

want to run my engine for about 20 minutes to break it

in before bringing it to the airport and installing

the wings.  



No offense intended but please don't reply if you just

have an opinion.  I've been inundated with opinions

from my local EAA buddies and I'm getting some pretty

mixed signals.  I don't want to re-create that here on

the email list.



I'd like to hear from folks who have 601XL's and

running engines.  Again, I don't want to start a

debate, just cold, hard facts from those who have been

there and done that (or chosen not to).  



Thanks and keep up the great discussions,



Scott Laughlin

www.cooknwithgas.com

Inches from starting the engine for the first time.

601XL / Corvair



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nfivesl(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

Thanks for all the encouraging words and helpful

suggestions!  All good advice and I plan to work hard

to make it happen in the next few days.  I made a

scoop for catching air to cool the engine this

afternoon:



http://www.cooknwithgas.com/9_28_06_TempCowl2.JPG



I've got the 93 octane autofuel ready in a plastic gas

can and I need to temporarily rig up my fuel pump. 

After that I need to connect a few wires and

everything will be ready.



Thanks again for the great advice from those that have

been there before me!  



Scott Laughlin

Omaha, Nebraska

601XL/Corvair 



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

One thing to add buddy, WE WANT VIDEO.

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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

nfivesl(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: Running Engine - Wings Off (601XL)

You got it Gig.  "Video Camera" is one item on my punch list.  



Scott Laughlin

www.cooknwithgas.com

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