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mrcc1234(at)sbcglobal.net Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:53 am Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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I am picking up my first aluminum order from a local supplier here in
Houston on Monday and am wondering how to load it without damaging it.
I will be receiving (5 - 12'x4') 2-016, 1-025, 1-032 & 1-040. Trident
Metals has the best rates (total $344) I have seen especially since I don't
have to worry about shipping (which was $150 from Yarde).
I am thinking that I will just roll them up together, wrap them in a soft
blanket and place straps around it to hold it.
Will this work?
How tight a radius can the 40 be wrapped to without taking a set?
I am making a long clamp out of 2 - 5'x2"x1/2" boards that I sandwich around
the short edge of the sheet stack with wing nuts and bolts (wrapped to
protect the sheets). The overhanging ends of which can help start the
rolling process and perhaps use as a handle to carry the roll.
I don't have a trailer and can hopefully get them all home safe in the back
of our Durango.
Thanks,
Matt in Katy, TX
601XL/Corvair - Starting the Tail Group
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hrs1(at)frontiernet.net Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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This isn't a direct answer to your immediate problem. But wear safety
glasses when rolling and unrolling long sheets, particularly when you
unroll them. Best done with two persons, one on each side of the roll,
both wearing safety glasses natch. There's a lot of spring like force
in a tightly rolled piece of aluminum. FWIW Robert Schoenberger 701
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Matt Stecher wrote:
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I am picking up my first aluminum order from a local supplier here in
Houston on Monday and am wondering how to load it without damaging it.
I will be receiving (5 - 12'x4') 2-016, 1-025, 1-032 & 1-040. Trident
Metals has the best rates (total $344) I have seen especially since I don't
have to worry about shipping (which was $150 from Yarde).
I am thinking that I will just roll them up together, wrap them in a soft
blanket and place straps around it to hold it.
Will this work?
How tight a radius can the 40 be wrapped to without taking a set?
I am making a long clamp out of 2 - 5'x2"x1/2" boards that I sandwich around
the short edge of the sheet stack with wing nuts and bolts (wrapped to
protect the sheets). The overhanging ends of which can help start the
rolling process and perhaps use as a handle to carry the roll.
I don't have a trailer and can hopefully get them all home safe in the back
of our Durango.
Thanks,
Matt in Katy, TX
601XL/Corvair - Starting the Tail Group
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gk(at)601hd.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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Matt,
Don't know how tightly you can roll the 040 but if I was you I'd roll it as
loosely as possible to fit in the back of the car. You don't gain anything
from rolling it tightly and you risk it bending. I would suggest putting a
strip of masking tape over each on the short edges that are inside the roll
and using a layer of newspaper between each sheet. I hate it when rolled
metal gets scratched! You might also consider rolling the 016 and 025
together and the 032 and 040 separately. When your done you should be able
to put the rolls inside one another. A single coiled spring of that much
aluminum can be a pretty vicious beastie.
Good Luck,
Graham Kirby
601HD
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I am picking up my first aluminum order from a local supplier here in
Houston on Monday and am wondering how to load it without damaging it.
I will be receiving (5 - 12'x4') 2-016, 1-025, 1-032 & 1-040. Trident
Metals has the best rates (total $344) I have seen especially since I don't
have to worry about shipping (which was $150 from Yarde).
I am thinking that I will just roll them up together, wrap them in a soft
blanket and place straps around it to hold it.
Will this work?
How tight a radius can the 40 be wrapped to without taking a set?
Matt in Katy, TX
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gboothe(at)calply.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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Matt,
I don't know about your supplier, but I have dealt with two different
suppliers and both are happy to do the rolling for me. They usually protect
the inside 4' edge with cardboard and lay a sheet of paper over the metal so
that it doesn't roll metal to metal.
If you are only buying 4' of .40 I doubt that you can roll it. It is
possible to roll 8', as Graham said, though it will be a loose roll. The
others would probably fit inside.
Ditto to what the others said, get help when un-rolling.
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section
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naumuk(at)alltel.net Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:26 am Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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Matt-
I have the scars to prove that you have to be careful when you unroll a
sheet. Stupid me, I was wearing shorts when I did it. Just a brush from an
edge to my shin. Didn't think anything more of it until I looked down and
noticed I was bleeding like a stuck pig. Still looks like I was in a sword
fight!
I've worn glasses since I was 3 years old, so eye protection is a given.
Needless to say, watch the rest of you.
Don't roll anything larger than .025, period. Get the supplier to cut
the sheet to what will fit in your Durango but still work with the plans. A
radius large enough to keep from damaging a sheet of .040 will never fit in
your vehicle anyway.
I could care less if anyone flames me, I consider this good advice based
on painful experience.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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mgraves(at)usmo.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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The .040 can be rolled to about 36-40 inch diameter, don't press your
luck. My supply house would not roll .040. So I did it myself on their
floor duck taped it all the way around, and then they would band
it........ same with .016, They didn't want to take the responsibilty
of damaging the heavier .040, and the thinner .016
A little smaller on the .032,
And the .025 and .016 down to 24 inches......
Have them roll it, and band it for you. Then you can slide the tubes
inside each other and get it home if you work it right. 2 sheets of .025
can be rolled together. 3 sheets of .016 can be banded together. Thats
about all you can lift at one time anyway without help.
Monty Graves
At 08:52 AM 9/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:
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I am picking up my first aluminum order from a local supplier here in
Houston on Monday and am wondering how to load it without damaging it.
I will be receiving (5 - 12'x4') 2-016, 1-025, 1-032 & 1-040. Trident
Metals has the best rates (total $344) I have seen especially since I don't
have to worry about shipping (which was $150 from Yarde).
I am thinking that I will just roll them up together, wrap them in a soft
blanket and place straps around it to hold it.
Will this work?
How tight a radius can the 40 be wrapped to without taking a set?
I am making a long clamp out of 2 - 5'x2"x1/2" boards that I sandwich around
the short edge of the sheet stack with wing nuts and bolts (wrapped to
protect the sheets). The overhanging ends of which can help start the
rolling process and perhaps use as a handle to carry the roll.
I don't have a trailer and can hopefully get them all home safe in the back
of our Durango.
Thanks,
Matt in Katy, TX
601XL/Corvair - Starting the Tail Group
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waj(at)quik.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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Hi Matt ,glad to see you are getting stared .I cant give you much more
advice other than the good advice that you have already gotten from the
site .I think you are wise picking it up yourself ,both in freight charges
and damage received in shipment .When I checked Trident they did not even
want to talk to me about .016 & .020 as they had too much damage in shipment
to their facility .I am going to use them for the remainder of my .025
material .I bought my 1 1/2 x1/4 spar caps from them for $14.25 each .Keep
us informed and I enjoyed your visit a couple of weeks ago . Wade
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barcusc(at)comcast.net Guest
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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I just received .025 X 4' x 12' it came in a box 13 1/2 X 13 1/2 square, I
did not measure the length but it is obviously more than 48 '' long. This is
the second time I have received a shipment from aircraft Spruce with no
damage. They roll it with paper between sheets of aluminum and it arrives in
excellent condition. I don't know how tight you can roll .040.
Clyde
601 XL
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TxDave
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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I think there is a misconception about rolling .040 sheets. I ordered two .040 4' x12' sheets from Airparts, Inc. They came rolled in a box about 15 inches square. They remained in this box for 2 months. When my wife and I unrolled them they were perfectly flat. Airparts rolls up to .050. I'm no expert, but they are. Of course they have the equipment and facilities to roll .040. I cetrainly wouldn't recommend you try this at home.
Since I discovered Trident Metals an hour down the road in Austin I now use them for all my aluminum. Great prices and no shipping charges.
The idea of making several seperate rolls posted by Graham really is a good plan.
Dave Clay
Temple, TX
http://www.daves601xl.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: Transporting aluminum sheet? |
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Wick's won't roll anything over .035.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuselage
Townville, Pa
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