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 Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: Wheel Landings - Lynn |
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Lynn:
You mentioned in your e-mail that you haven't get
training on wheel landings from your instructor. What
will happen if you are asked to do a wheel landing
during your check ride this week?
Your instructor should have provide you that training
before the endorsement. For some reason that I don't
understand, some TD pilots avoid wheel landings and
that include CFIs. There is nothing wrong with wheel
landings! As a matter of fact, on a plane with the
weight of a Kitfox IV, it may happen that one day you
need to land in strong, cross-wind, and a wheel
landing is the ONLY right way to do that landing.
Believe me, if the model II can handle strong cross
wind, the model IV with the bigger rudder can do it
better.
My recommendation is that, if your CFI avoids
providing that kind of training, get another CFI.
| Quote: | From you previous postings, I can tell that you will
do great in your check ride, as long as you are not
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asked to perform a wheel landing (hope the DPE is not
following this list). Good luck in your checkride,
will be waiting for the good new!
Jose
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: Wheel Landings - Lynn |
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Good advice, Jose, but my instructor hasn't mentioned it since very
early on, and I'm sold on this instructor and so is everybody around
these parts. I will ask him about it though.
Lynn
On Monday, October 9, 2006, at 04:51 PM, Jose M. Toro wrote:
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<jose_m_toro(at)yahoo.com>
Lynn:
You mentioned in your e-mail that you haven't get
training on wheel landings from your instructor. What
will happen if you are asked to do a wheel landing
during your check ride this week?
Your instructor should have provide you that training
before the endorsement. For some reason that I don't
understand, some TD pilots avoid wheel landings and
that include CFIs. There is nothing wrong with wheel
landings! As a matter of fact, on a plane with the
weight of a Kitfox IV, it may happen that one day you
need to land in strong, cross-wind, and a wheel
landing is the ONLY right way to do that landing.
Believe me, if the model II can handle strong cross
wind, the model IV with the bigger rudder can do it
better.
My recommendation is that, if your CFI avoids
providing that kind of training, get another CFI.
> From you previous postings, I can tell that you will
do great in your check ride, as long as you are not
asked to perform a wheel landing (hope the DPE is not
following this list). Good luck in your checkride,
will be waiting for the good new!
Jose
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wingnut
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Wheel Landings - Lynn |
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My first instructor demonstrated a couple of wheel landings in my Kitfox but he never bothered to train me with them. He didn't seem to think that it was necissary. That instructor has since taken a job with the FAA so I had to find another one. The new guy jumped right into wheel landings. In factm, he didn't let me do another three pointer until I had the wheel landings down. After all is said and done, I'm convinced that my original instructor was much more in tune with what the local examiners are looking for. He actually put me in contact with two examiners who would do my check ride in the kitfox while my current instructor didn't think anyone would test me in my 'ultralight' (his words).
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experimental208nd(at)comc
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: Wheel Landings - Lynn |
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Well, I have to say I did learn the wheel landing in a Cub first, but I had
heard that it is much harder in the fox with the short wheel base on the
bungee gear. So I never wanted to even try it , as another fox flyer had
almost spun off the runnway a few times even with the Grove gear trying the
wheel landings.
After 150 hours in my Fox I went up in the Fox -4 with a local flying Guru
to put me through the wringers in my plane. Man did I learn Alot about the
Fox. Wheel landings, one wheel landings, flap landings( lots of it, flaps
that is.) ............
The wheel landing really helped me out this Sunday to make a nice landing
like Ive not had in a while in Gusty,variable winds. Tailwind, to a 90 deg,
to a big balloon, to no wind tto tail..... fought it all the way down, and
planted the two frt wheel on, backed off on the gas , ailerons, and only
used 1/4 the 3200 ft runway to turn off.
With otu that technic, I would have at least pounded it on and fished all
over the place. I am not by far experianced in it to give advice, but now
that I have learned it, I will try it every time now.
Hope this helps,
Jay Fabian
model 4-1200 912
PS, the instructors never really taught how to REALLY Slip your plane all
the way to the ground, and to skip the Flaps. That was in the 152/172
lessons 10 years ago. I feel I have wWay more control over the decent with
the slip too.
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starlaker
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| Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject: Wheel Landings - Lynn |
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When you take off, you never really know what the conditions will be
when you are landing. Under certain circumstances, wheel landings are
the only safe alternative. Ergo, (which is a fancy way of saying
"therefore"), it's essential that you learn to make wheel landings in
your fox. And it lots of fun, once you get the hang of it!
Dick
Jay Fabian wrote:
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<experimental208nd(at)comcast.net>
Well, I have to say I did learn the wheel landing in a Cub first, but
I had heard that it is much harder in the fox with the short wheel
base on the bungee gear. So I never wanted to even try it , as another
fox flyer had almost spun off the runnway a few times even with the
Grove gear trying the wheel landings.
After 150 hours in my Fox I went up in the Fox -4 with a local flying
Guru to put me through the wringers in my plane. Man did I learn Alot
about the Fox. Wheel landings, one wheel landings, flap landings( lots
of it, flaps that is.) ............
The wheel landing really helped me out this Sunday to make a nice
landing like Ive not had in a while in Gusty,variable winds. Tailwind,
to a 90 deg, to a big balloon, to no wind tto tail..... fought it
all the way down, and planted the two frt wheel on, backed off on the
gas , ailerons, and only used 1/4 the 3200 ft runway to turn off.
With otu that technic, I would have at least pounded it on and fished
all over the place. I am not by far experianced in it to give advice,
but now that I have learned it, I will try it every time now.
Hope this helps,
Jay Fabian
model 4-1200 912
PS, the instructors never really taught how to REALLY Slip your plane
all the way to the ground, and to skip the Flaps. That was in the
152/172 lessons 10 years ago. I feel I have wWay more control over the
decent with the slip too.
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