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rlborger(at)mac.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: M10-AN-6 was Copper Washers

Tam,

For those unfamiliar with the issue, I am trying to replace the hose barb banjo fittings on the fuel pressure regulator with a proper AN fitting.  The results of my comparison of the AN-4 Banjo fitting to the existing Banho Hose Barb are posted on my build site ( http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL/ ) last album.  They are not encouraging.  Tam has another idea.

Tam wrote:



If the AN-4 banjos will not work for you, I just thought of another  

possibility.  Perhaps you can replace the banjos with straight M10 to AN-6  

adapters and attach the fuel lines with 90 degrees AN-6 swivel fittings.



OK, sounds good.  The AN-6 sure will supply the fuel.  But I'm not familiar with the M10 to AN-6 fitting.  Do you have a source for them?  Do I go back to the Race Supply Shop?	



I assume that the AN-6 90 degree swivel fitting is on the hose end?

Good building and great flying,

 Bob Borger

Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S

http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL

(85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done.  Baggage bay in.  Flaps & Main Gear complete.  Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing.  Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05.  Seat arrived from Oregon Aero.  E04 interior kit has arrived.  Preparing for ROTAX 914 installation.

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208

Home:  940-497-2123

Cel:  817-992-1117

 

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Horizonspace(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: M10-AN-6 was Copper Washers

Bob,

  

 You can find the M10x1.0 to AN-6 adapter at anplumbing.com part number  991953.  It's designated as "Carburetor Adapter Weber".  Be sure to  get the M10x1.0 not M10x1.25 or any other pitch.  As for the 90 deg swivel,  it is a hose end fitting allowing you to mate your fuel hose to the AN  fitting.  What you need to buy would depend on the type of hose that you  are planning to use.  We prefer the "push on" kind.  No clamps, no  braids to deal with.  You can get them at the same website or at  summitracing.com

  

 One other note.  We are not sure if the adapter/hose end fitting  stack-up would clear the airbox pressure solenoid assembly since the 90 deg  fitting has a radius to it.  If there is enough room in your installation  for hose bend, you may not need to use the 90 deg fitting.  You also have  the option of using a 45 deg fitting.

  

  

 In a message dated 10/10/2006 7:37:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  rlborger(at)mac.com writes:

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		  Tam,    

   For those unfamiliar with the issue, I am trying to replace the hose barb    banjo fittings on the fuel pressure regulator with a proper AN fitting.     The results of my comparison of the AN-4 Banjo fitting to the existing Banho    Hose Barb are posted on my build site ( http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL/    ) last album.  They are not encouraging.  Tam has another idea.    

   Tam wrote:

   

      If the AN-4 banjos will not work for you, I just    thought of another  

   possibility.  Perhaps you can replace the banjos with straight M10    to AN-6  

   adapters and attach the fuel lines with 90 degrees AN-6    swivel fittings.

   

   OK, sounds good.  The AN-6 sure will supply the fuel.  But I'm    not familiar with the M10 to AN-6 fitting.  Do you have a source for    them?  Do I go back to the Race Supply Shop? 

   

   I assume that the AN-6 90 degree swivel fitting is on the hose end?

   



Good building and great    flying,

      Bob Borger

   Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914,    Airmaster C/S

   http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL

   (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module    installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger    mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar    in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done.  Baggage bay in.  Flaps & Main    Gear complete.  Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 30    Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37    Finishing.  Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05.  Seat arrived    from Oregon Aero.  E04 interior kit has arrived.  Preparing for    ROTAX 914 installation.

   3705 Lynchburg Dr.

   Corinth, TX  76208

   Home:  940-497-2123

   Cel:  817-992-1117



	




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rlborger(at)mac.com
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: M10-AN-6 was Copper Washers

Tam,

Thanks for the info.  I ordered two of the M10x1.0 to AN-6 fittings from anplumbing.com.  I see that they come with their own new aluminum crush washer but that replacement washers are also available.  Pretty impressive site for anyone who is shopping for spiffy AN fittings, hoses and other fuel or hydraulic related parts.



For hose, I plan to purchase custom fire-shield hose from ACS.  Give them another opportunity to bollix up a custom hose order.



In any case, I won't actually swap out the hose barb banjos until I talk with the Lockwood folks in December.  When the fittings arrive, I will post pics on my build web site.



Good building and great flying,

Bob Borger

Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S

http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL

(85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done.  Baggage bay in.  Flaps & Main Gear complete.  Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing.  Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05.  Seat arrived from Oregon Aero.  E04 interior kit has arrived.  Preparing for ROTAX 914 installation.

3705 Lynchburg Dr.

Corinth, TX  76208

Home:  940-497-2123

Cel:  817-992-1117

 



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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: M10-AN-6 was Copper Washers

In a message dated 10/11/2006 7:51:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  paul.mcallister(at)qia.net writes:

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		     Bob    et all,

    

   I    was wondering during your searches had you come accross a 16mm banjo with an    AN fitting.  It would be nice to have one on the  sump.

    

   I am    using 666 braided teflon but the hose nipple is 12mm whereas the 666 hose is    1/2".  It would be great if I could terminate it properly.  I am    currnetly using double hose clips, it works but its a but of a    kludge.

    

   Paul

	
 Paul et al,

  

 We used a M16 to AN-8 adapter and swivel hose end fitting.  We got the  adapter from Lockwood for a whopping $56.05.  The Rotax Parts Manual listed  the part as an option for the sump connection.  The Rotax PN is 956650  (Adapter 3/4-16 UNF/M16x1,5).  In hindsight, we could have used the same  part from anplumbing.com (PN 9919EFJ) or from summitracing.com (PN  EAR-9919EFJERL or PN AER-FBM2243 or PN RUS-670551).  The latter parts can  be bought for as low as $6.95 ea.)

  

 If you want to stay with the banjo setup, you can get Mocal adapters from  batinc.net.  PN BJ168M is a M16 banjo with AN-8 Male end and PN 168H is a  M16 Banjo with AN-8 Hose end.  They also have parts to mate to larger  AN-10.

  

 Happy plumbing!

  

 Tam

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