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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:56 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

My fox is grounded and the nearest mechanic is 50 miles away so I need a trailer. I thought of renting an enclosed trailer but I can't find one that she'll fit in so I'm looking at buying something. They make car haulers that will work but they're a bit spendy and they seem like overkill for a 600lb airplane. It occurs to me that a boat trailer would be plenty strong and they're very inexpensive on the used market.  Anyone ever convert a boat trailer or something similar to cary a kitfox?



Luis Rodriguez

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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

I have trailered Kitfoxes on flatbeds before.Wings folded and nose first on 

trailer and wing braces on front of spars.

Just strapped down the main gear and tailwheel same as trailering anything 

really .

Just make sure it does not move. I don't think i ever went over 50 mph.



A note ,  you can remove one wing and fold the other and fit it into a 

enclosed trailer.  8 foot x 24 footer.  The wing will fit bewteen the mail 

wheels on the  floor of trailer as well.

Kitfox Folder is just under 8 feet adn with both wings might not fit in a 8 

foot wide trailer.



I have a friend that has a avid trailer in SW Ontario that might loan it out 

and it would surely fit some Kitfoxes.

Dave

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Hi Wingnut, Not sure where you live but I have a 4 place snowmobile trailer  that works great for hauling kitfox's, fit's on there like a glove. I'm just  outside of Windsor if it's not to far away your more than welcome to use  it.

  

                                                                     Jim

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rkstevens(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

All,



It just so happens that I am thinking of selling my Custom Made KitFox trailer.  I've put myself of the hangar wait list so don't feel the need to keep a trailer around.  Besides, I've got my Christen Eagle in a hangar already and could probably squeeze my Fox in there as well.



About the trailer:



- Custom made for a KitFox IV

- Has electric brakes

- Has custom fuel tank & fuel pump (Think of a gas station pump - this is what it's got)

- Aluminum diamond plate top deck

- Requires a 2" ball



I paid $2000 for it from Rick Gray a couple of years ago.  It's Orange.  It was made by a fellow on the west coast who owned or ran a rental tool company.  You know the types of places that rent Bobcat skid loaders, etc.  Well, this trailer is sooooo heavy duty, it could easily carry a Bobcat tractor or two.



I'd like to not lose too much money on it...But...it's orange...and it's in my backyard...and my wife "suggests" that I do something with it 



Ron

KitFox 6 - NSI Turbo CAP 140

Christen Eagle II

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		  From: wingnut <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>

Date: 2006/10/11 Wed AM 08:56:16 CDT

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer


	


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My fox is grounded and the nearest mechanic is 50 miles away so I need a trailer. I thought of renting an enclosed trailer but I can't find one that she'll fit in so I'm looking at buying something. They make car haulers that will work but they're a bit spendy and they seem like overkill for a 600lb airplane. It occurs to me that a boat trailer would be plenty strong and they're very inexpensive on the used market.  Anyone ever convert a boat trailer or something similar to cary a kitfox?





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jareds(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

I started out with a boat trailer that i modified but it was in the DC 

area with lots of salt water corrosion so ditched it and bought a dual 

axle flatbed trailer.  I used it to take all my toys from DC to the 

ranch in South Dakota one year to attend the sturgis bike ralley as per 

usual and the trailer had such stiff suspension that the airplane 

epenage behind the turtle teck totally collapsed after a few too many 

chicago beltway speed bumps.  Most had to do with the weight of the 

wings folded and bouncing on stiff suspensions.  I finally built a real 

fox trailer and made the same trip a couple years later in dead of 

winter and had no problems but i agree with dave that taking a wing off 

to tuck in an enclosed is the way to go.  Just be sure to brace 

everything regardless.  You never know what obsticals are in the road.



Dave wrote:



[quote] 



 I have trailered Kitfoxes on flatbeds before.Wings folded and nose 

 first on trailer and wing braces on front of spars.

 Just strapped down the main gear and tailwheel same as trailering 

 anything really .

 Just make sure it does not move. I don't think i ever went over 50 mph.



 A note ,  you can remove one wing and fold the other and fit it into a 

 enclosed trailer.  8 foot x 24 footer.  The wing will fit bewteen the 

 mail wheels on the  floor of trailer as well.

 Kitfox Folder is just under 8 feet adn with both wings might not fit 

 in a 8 foot wide trailer.



 I have a friend that has a avid trailer in SW Ontario that might loan 

 it out and it would surely fit some Kitfoxes.

 Dave

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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Hey. Thanks for the trailer offers guys. Where are you guys located? I'm at 35A (Laurens, SC).



-Luis

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

I have done that, and it worked very well for me. I have pictures I 

could email if you'd like.



Lynn

On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, at 09:56  AM, wingnut wrote:



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 My fox is grounded and the nearest mechanic is 50 miles away so I need 

 a trailer. I thought of renting an enclosed trailer but I can't find 

 one that she'll fit in so I'm looking at buying something. They make 

 car haulers that will work but they're a bit spendy and they seem like 

 overkill for a 600lb airplane. It occurs to me that a boat trailer 

 would be plenty strong and they're very inexpensive on the used 

 market.  Anyone ever convert a boat trailer or something similar to 

 cary a kitfox?





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67120#67120

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

rkstevens(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

The Custon KitFox trailer is located in Manassas, VA.  Closest airport (KHEF).  My Eagle is a Warrenton, VA (W66)



I'm about a 15 min drive from KHEF.  If flying up here, be aware of the ADIZ restrictions.  KHEF is *inside* the ADIZ, so if you're unfamiliar with the routine, check out the AOPA info or let me know and I'll fill you in on the arrival procedures.



Ron

KitFox 6 - NSI Turbo CAP 140

Christen Eagle II



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		  From: wingnut <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>

Date: 2006/10/11 Wed AM 10:26:55 CDT

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Looking for a kitfox trailer


	


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Hey. Thanks for the trailer offers guys. Where are you guys located? I'm at 35A (Laurens, SC).



-Luis





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malpass-architect(at)comc
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

I have a really good system, actually done by the original builder. I made 

enhancments that make loading/unloading easier, and fueling  very easy.  I 

have added a 20 gallon mini-drum with a dot approved 13 gallon per minute 

pump.  I couldnt be happier with mine as I transport to the airport every 

time I fly.



Bill - Kitfox III  N 793 RK

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starlaker

Joined: 24 Jun 2006
Posts: 16

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

I converted my 5' by 8', 1,500 GVW utility trailer to haul my Classic 

4.  I did the typical tail first method.  First I bought a 3"x3"x11' 

square steel tube to replace the existing tongue.  I built a platform on 

the tongue to hold the tail wheel and a winch, and built ramps  for the 

main and tail wheels.  My fox has tubular gear so the trailer bed is 

just wide enough.  You might have to make an extension to the deck if 

you have spring gear.  The thing that concerned me most was the high CG 

coupled with the relatively narrow trailer axle.  I didn't want the 

thing to tip over on a turn or from a wind gust.  To lower the CG I put 

320 lb of concrete mix (4 80 lb. bags) on the trailer bed.  This also 

allowed me to adjust the for and aft CG. The trailer weighs 500 lb., my  

C4 is 640 lb. dry so with the concrete the whole load is 1480 lb.

The reason I did the conversion was to get my plane from my hanger to my 

shop for some modifications, a 30 mile trip.  I like having it in 

reserve in case I get stuck somewhere and can't fly the plane home.

Dick



wingnut wrote:



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My fox is grounded and the nearest mechanic is 50 miles away so I need a trailer. I thought of renting an enclosed trailer but I can't find one that she'll fit in so I'm looking at buying something. They make car haulers that will work but they're a bit spendy and they seem like overkill for a 600lb airplane. It occurs to me that a boat trailer would be plenty strong and they're very inexpensive on the used market.  Anyone ever convert a boat trailer or something similar to cary a kitfox?





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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Ron: Northern VA is about 400miles for me. I'll keep you in mind though if I don't come up with anything else.



Lynn: Some pics of your conversion would be awsome. I figured that would be the most cost effective way to go. Also, this way, I finally have an excuse for acquiring that mig welder .



wingnut(at)spamarrest.com

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Hope you find a solution to your Kitfox woes.



Regarding the trailer, If it is a once of occasional use, any trailer will 

suffice.  Talk in the past on the list seems to recommend that a trailer for 

a Kitfox be rated for close to the empty weight - a boat trailer sounds 

about right.  A car hauler rated at a couple of tons will have absolutely no 

suspension for a light weight load.  All the bouncing will be on the 

airplane suspension and every pot hole will be transmitted straigt to the 

airplane.  You will need extra care suspending the tail wheel area after the 

weight of the folded wings are there also. Back in the discussion some 

suggested possible G loads way up there.



I felt this once after a ride with a buddy who drove an 18 wheeler.  We 

dropped off the trailer and drove to get something to eat in the tractor. 

It was like riding on solid rubber wheels unsprung over railroad tracks - 

not fun. Of course he had the air supsension seat.



Lowell

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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

I just sent some pics to your personal address, wingnut.



Lynn

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On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, at 03:34  PM, wingnut wrote:



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 Ron: Northern VA is about 400miles for me. I'll keep you in mind 

 though if I don't come up with anything else.



 Lynn: Some pics of your conversion would be awsome. I figured that 

 would be the most cost effective way to go. Also, this way, I finally 

 have an excuse for acquiring that mig welder .





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67186#67186

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Lynn: Thanks for the pics. I learned of a guy in my area to makes custom trailers out of his garage. I guess I should be a good boy and take your pictures to him for a price before I drop the money on that mig welder...

Finally got some good news on my airplane. Had a local retired A&P with some experience with experimentals come and look at it. He's convinced that the crud in my gascolator is in fact coming from the fuel lines that I had already suspected where disintegrating. So the up side of the crud is that it confirms that my fuel smell is probably coming from the lines. He also pointed out that the goop on the case is just some kind of gasket sealer and that the seam in question is just for an accessory case so I shouldn't be too worried about oil drips coming from there. He's even offered to give me a hand if I decide to replace the lines myself (which he recommends).  It wasnâ€™t all good as he pointed out some other quirks in the engine compartment that need to be addressed but a good day on balance.

-Luis

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Nahhh, get the welder...you can make her a wrought iron trellis for her 

roses to grow on, some wrought iron thingys to put flower pots in, a 

rack for wine bottles....but don't listen to me, I've gone through 3 

wives, so what do I know?



Lynn

p.s. I knew there was a name I was forgetting...Luis...yeah, that's it.

On Thursday, October 12, 2006, at 01:47  PM, wingnut wrote:



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 Lynn: Thanks for the pics. I learned of a guy in my area to makes 

 custom trailers out of his garage. I guess I should be a good boy and 

 take your pictures to him for a price before I drop the money on that 

 mig welder...

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Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a kitfox trailer

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		  Nahhh, get the welder...you can make her a wrought iron trellis for her roses to grow on, some wrought iron thingys to put flower pots in, a rack for wine bottles....but don't listen to me, I've gone through 3 

wives, so what do I know? 	




LOL. I like you're style. That welder would be mine in a heart beat if I could dig up some plans on a hangar door.... oh well, I guess can't complain about a wife that already let me spend as much as I have already on a toy.

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

The hangar doors where I'm located are simple bi-fold doors, hung on a 

track, and couldn't be simpler to make. I could shoot some pics if 

you'd like. They are just metal siding nailed/screwed onto 2x4 frames, 

with a walk-through door for entry. Pull three pipe "anchors" and the 

doors (two of 'em) pivot and slide out of the way.

Lynn

do not archive

On Thursday, October 12, 2006, at 03:48  PM, wingnut wrote:

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> Nahhh, get the welder...you can make her a wrought iron trellis for 

> her roses to grow on, some wrought iron thingys to put flower pots 

> in, a rack for wine bottles....but don't listen to me, I've gone 

> through 3

> wives, so what do I know?

 LOL. I like you're style. That welder would be mine in a heart beat if 

 I could dig up some plans on a hangar door.... oh well, I guess can't 

 complain about a wife that already let me spend as much as I have 

 already on a toy.

 Read this topic online here:

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67395#67395

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Oh wow! That would be fatastic. I've been stressing about having to drop another $4k on a bifold door kit. Thanks again.

rjdaugh

Joined: 30 Aug 2006
Posts: 195

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Don't forget the ultimate door:



THE ULTIMATE DOOR, INC. 

5083 NORTH 107TH ST.

MILWAUKEE, WI 53225

(414) 438-0747

www.gehreingk(at)prodigy.net



This is a door kit and you build the door yourself.  I am real pleased with

mine and spent about $1400 on it.  - 40' x 10'



Randy



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Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:27 am Post subject: Looking for a kitfox trailer

Hey Lynn, send me those photos too, will ya? - rhefferan (at) gmail.com

I was planning to create my own bi-folds and haven't committed to 

anything yet.



Rex

Colorado

Lynn Matteson wrote:



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 The hangar doors where I'm located are simple bi-fold doors, hung on a 

 track, and couldn't be simpler to make. I could shoot some pics if 

 you'd like. They are just metal siding nailed/screwed onto 2x4 frames, 

 with a walk-through door for entry. Pull three pipe "anchors" and the 

 doors (two of 'em) pivot and slide out of the way.



 Lynn

 do not archive

 On Thursday, October 12, 2006, at 03:48  PM, wingnut wrote:



> 

>> Nahhh, get the welder...you can make her a wrought iron trellis for 

>> her roses to grow on, some wrought iron thingys to put flower pots 

>> in, a rack for wine bottles....but don't listen to me, I've gone 

>> through 3

>> wives, so what do I know?

>

> LOL. I like you're style. That welder would be mine in a heart beat 

> if I could dig up some plans on a hangar door.... oh well, I guess 

> can't complain about a wife that already let me spend as much as I 

> have already on a toy.

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67395#67395

>

>


	


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