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rehn(at)rockisland.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:30 am Post subject: Trailering

For over 5 years I have been hangering and seldom using trailer. I may have 

used it 3 times in 6 years. Each time it is a real chore getting everything 

lined up and pins in etc. I am very close to airport and am considering 

trailering more often . I know there are those of you that have got it 

figured out. I need your help. I still have the  brochures that show the 

Europa on the trailer (pg7) behind the Land Rover gasing up- what a concept! 

I could be that person! Except for the Rover! Thanks for help.



Jerry

914 Mono

w/trailer

96victor(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: Trailering

Hi Jerry

  

 Tom Friedland with XS Mono/Jabiru/Airmaster now in Ellensburg.  (Was in BLI)

  

 There is a guy in Canada that makes a one man wing dolly on wheels that you can wheel the wing from the trailer to the aircraft and pivot the wing to a horizontal position.  And of course the other way around.  I have the web site somewhere if you are interested.  I think that they were around $750. 

  

 Is there any chance of flying with you sometime?  I flew in a mono once in 1998 and mine is almost ready to go so I would like to see what it is like.

  

 Tom

 



 

 On 10/13/06, Jerry Rehn <rehn(at)rockisland.com (rehn(at)rockisland.com)> wrote: [quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn(at)rockisland.com  (rehn(at)rockisland.com)>



For over 5 years I have been hangering and seldom using trailer. I may have

used it 3 times in 6 years. Each time it is a real chore getting everything

lined up and pins in etc. I am very close to airport and am considering 

trailering more often . I know there are those of you that have got it

figured out. I need your help. I still have the  brochures that show the

Europa on the trailer (pg7) behind the Land Rover gasing up- what a concept!  [quote][b]

rehn(at)rockisland.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: Trailering

Hi Tom

 I'm looking for the methods and things folks have  done to make the wings easier to re-rig. It is always a hit and miss to line up  pins spars and all. I find two of us taking quite some time and much  frustration. Perhaps it will get better as I do it more but I recall others  resorting to other techniques and mods to make it much easier.

 Glad to see your close by. We'll try arrange a  flight one day

  

 Jerry

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CraigEllison

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 24
Location: Silverton, OR USA

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject: Trailering

Hi Tom,

  

 I'm down in Silverton, OR just a bit south of  Portland.  Would love to hook up with a fellow builder and future pacific  NW Europa flyer sometime  I currently have 59hr on my  XSmono/Rotax914/Airmaster Europa and loving every min of it.  Give me a  call and we'll go flying when the weather permits.

  

 craig ellison

 A205

 N205CN

 503-508-5198

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steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: Trailering

Jerry

 I have only just completed my aircraft and newly flown it so I can only  report on the short experience I have of trailering and putting together. I have  a closed trailer for my XS Trigear.

 Firstly, two is better than one IMHO - it is more fun but you need to be  relaxed about getting the aircraft in and out of the trailer. Never rush as that  is when you make mistakes and create the hanger rash that you don't want.

 Putting the aircraft together does get easier and I now find my wings slot  in and the pins engage with a little bit of jiggling. Certainly it can be done  within about 15 minutes without breaking out into too much sweat.

 For wing rigging I made a 3 wheeled dolly, which does work, just in case I  get stuck without the second pair of hands. It is not as big and elegant as some  I have seen but I have tested it on rough ground and with a wind blowing and it  was stable enough to cope. Trestles were used for turning and positioning. The  flap engagement was the worst bit as I have not yet fitted self aligning funnels  to make the job easier.

 Taking the aircraft apart should definitely not be done in a rush but  savoured after a good days flying. You are probably tired and thoughful of what  has gone before so take your time. This stage takes me 1/2 hour plus if I am  truthful.

 I must admit there have been times when I have cursed the design which  allows it to be trailered but then I think of the costs and the ability to work  at home. With a winch fitted I can now get the fuselage out on my own and back  and work when the weather and time suits.

 I appreciate this is very general and I will photograph the dolly  eventually. If you want any more info contact me off list.

 Regards

 Steve Pitt G-SMDH

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riddon(at)sent.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: Trailering

Jerry,  

   

I made a wing dolly based on designs I found on the ‘net and with input from other fliers over here. Couple of pic’s attached.  Works a treat and I can single handedly rig and derig in about 15 minutes.  Cost me about very little for the bits plus a couple of days work to put together.   

   

Richard Iddon G-RIXS

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Randerson(at)skewstacks.f
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: Trailering

I'm looking for the methods and things folks have  done to make the wings easier to re-rig. It is always a hit and miss to line up  pins spars and all.

  

 I have fitted a guide on the seat back to  help line up the port spar and a guide on the port spar to help line up the  starboard spar with their appropriate cups. It is not foolproof but it does  help.

 I modified an old golf trolley to support  the end of the wing for single handed rigging and modified the spar retaining  loops on the trailer to pivot and rotate through ninety degrees. This  enables me to rig and de-rig single handed every time that I fly, and at a  very leisurely rate it takes me less than half an hour, including fitting  the radio and GPS - both of which are 'hand held'.

     Roger  (G-BXTD)

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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
Guest

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:19 am Post subject: Trailering

Hi! Roger,  

My flap close outs embody a funnel like guide which picks up the flap and guides it on to the flap drive tube.  

Regards  

Bob Harrison. G-PTAG repairing and preparing during the 6 month wait for a Rotax 914 !  

   

   

-----Original Message-----

 From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Anderson

 Sent: 14 October 2006 10:23

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailering  

     

I'm looking for the methods and things folks have done to make the wings easier to re-rig. It is always a hit and miss to line up pins spars and all.  

    

   

    

I have fitted a guide on the seat back to help line up the port spar and a guide on the port spar to help line up the starboard spar with their appropriate cups. It is not foolproof but it does help.  

    

I modified an old golf trolley to support the end of the wing for single handed rigging and modified the spar retaining loops on the trailer to pivot and rotate through ninety degrees. This enables me to rig and de-rig single handed every time that I fly, and at a very leisurely rate it takes me less than half an hour, including fitting the radio and GPS - both of which are 'hand held'.  

    

    Roger (G-BXTD)  

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keithhickling(at)clear.ne
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: Trailering

Hi Rickard,

 This dolly looks very nice. Any chance of some more  detailed pictures and or drawings showing pivot points, height adjustment and  locking, dimensions etc? 

  

 Regards,

 Keith Hickling,

 New Zealand.

 XS Mono, fuse top on, wings ready to  close.

  

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riddon(at)sent.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: Trailering

Keith,  

   

The Picture is of the professionally made model which I copied. More details can be found on http://www.wingdolly.reach.net/prices.html .  Mine did not have vertical adjustment which I don’t find a problem as I am only using it for the one airplane.  I made it so that the dolly sits about 1 foot inboard of the end of the wing with the ‘plane rigged. Up and down adjustment can be made by moving it further inboard or outboard. I made the cradle by taking a splash moulding of the wing at this point using polyester resin & chopped strand mat with an odd layer of bid and reinforcing it with some tubing glassed onto the reverse side. My pivot point is about 20in. back from the leading edge.   

   

I also had input from Bob Harrison G-PTAG  and William Mills G-HOFC who have also made similar dollies.  

   

Hope this helps.  

   

Richard Iddon G-RIXS  

   

   

-----Original Message-----

 From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hickling

 Sent: 14 October  2006 23:36

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailering  

     

Hi Rickard,  

    

This dolly looks very nice. Any chance of some more detailed pictures and or drawings showing pivot points, height adjustment and locking, dimensions etc?   

    

   

    

Regards,  

    

Keith Hickling,  

    

New   Zealand.  

    

XS Mono, fuse top on, wings ready to close.  

    

   

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rehn(at)rockisland.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: Trailering

Thanks to all for your trailer responses. I have  another "winter" project now. Will let you know how it works out.

 Regards

 Jerry

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