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bob(at)flyboybob.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: New battery option

For those of you that are using/considering a 17AH 12VDC RG battery for your

craft you might be interested in what I just found out when looking to get

another Panasonic 17AH 12VDC RG battery.  Panasonic now has a 20 AH battery

that is only .22 pounds heaver at 12.56 pounds and it only costs $6.69 more.

That looks like a good deal to me.  Here is the info from

http://digikey.com.  DigiKey has links to the factory datasheets for these

batteries.



DigiKeyPN  Mfg PN		Description

Price

P174-ND LC-RD1217P BATT SEALED LEAD ACID 12V 17AH Panasonic - BSG    $40.67



P231-ND LC-X1220P BATT SEALED LEAD ACID 12V 20.0AH Panasonic - BSG    $47.36



Regards,



Bob Lee

N52BL  KR2

Suwanee, GA

91% done only 65% to go!

sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: New battery option

Looks interesting.  I think you meant to say "14.56 pounds," though.



Wouldn't you know I just ordered my third Odyssey PC-625 for the plane

last week.  Maybe next time I'll try one of these.



-Stormy



On 10/16/06, Bob Lee <bob(at)flyboybob.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 For those of you that are using/considering a 17AH 12VDC RG battery for your

 craft you might be interested in what I just found out when looking to get

 another Panasonic 17AH 12VDC RG battery.  Panasonic now has a 20 AH battery

 that is only .22 pounds heaver at 12.56 pounds and it only costs $6.69 more.

 That looks like a good deal to me.  Here is the info from

 http://digikey.com.  DigiKey has links to the factory datasheets for these

 batteries.



 DigiKeyPN  Mfg PN               Description

 Price

 P174-ND LC-RD1217P BATT SEALED LEAD ACID 12V 17AH Panasonic - BSG    $40.67



 P231-ND LC-X1220P BATT SEALED LEAD ACID 12V 20.0AH Panasonic - BSG    $47.36



 Regards,



 Bob Lee

 N52BL  KR2

 Suwanee, GA

 91% done only 65% to go!

sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: New battery option

On second thought, having just looked up the Odyssey, the Panasonic is

1.3# heavier, and its numbers don't look any better to me (except

price).  Maybe I'll stick with Odyssey until something better comes

along.



(IMO, $30 is a fair price to shave 1.3# from an airframe.  At that

price, I'll take 200# off, please 



Comments?



-Bill B



On 10/16/06, Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Looks interesting.  I think you meant to say "14.56 pounds," though.



 Wouldn't you know I just ordered my third Odyssey PC-625 for the plane

 last week.  Maybe next time I'll try one of these.



 -Stormy



 On 10/16/06, Bob Lee <bob(at)flyboybob.com> wrote:

 > 

 >

 > For those of you that are using/considering a 17AH 12VDC RG battery for your

 > craft you might be interested in what I just found out when looking to get

 > another Panasonic 17AH 12VDC RG battery.  Panasonic now has a 20 AH battery

 > that is only .22 pounds heaver at 12.56 pounds and it only costs $6.69 more.

 > That looks like a good deal to me.  Here is the info from

 > http://digikey.com.  DigiKey has links to the factory datasheets for these

 > batteries.

 >

 > DigiKeyPN  Mfg PN               Description

 > Price

 > P174-ND LC-RD1217P BATT SEALED LEAD ACID 12V 17AH Panasonic - BSG    $40.67

 >

 > P231-ND LC-X1220P BATT SEALED LEAD ACID 12V 20.0AH Panasonic - BSG    $47.36

 >

 > Regards,

 >

 > Bob Lee

 > N52BL  KR2

 > Suwanee, GA

 > 91% done only 65% to go!

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

bob(at)flyboybob.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: New battery option

Bill B wrote:



"On second thought, having just looked up the Odyssey, the Panasonic is

1.3# heavier, and its numbers don't look any better to me (except

price).  Maybe I'll stick with Odyssey until something better comes

along."



Bill I just googled odyssey batteries and I could not find a link to the

factory data sheets.  Do you have a link where I could find the data sheets?

I would like to see the discharge graphs to figure my endurance bus time.

My thought is to only spend the extra $$ to save 1.3 pounds after it is

flying.  Right now saving $30 is smart because there are plenty of other

things I need to buy to finish my bird.  The real question is can you get a

better (cheeper, longer running at my e-bus load) 20AH battery from Odyssey

than Panasonic?



Regards,



Bob Lee

N52BL  KR2

Suwanee, GA

91% done only 65% to go!

sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: New battery option

http://www.odysseybatteries.com/files/techbook.pdf



On 10/16/06, Bob Lee <bob(at)flyboybob.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Bill B wrote:



 "On second thought, having just looked up the Odyssey, the Panasonic is

 1.3# heavier, and its numbers don't look any better to me (except

 price).  Maybe I'll stick with Odyssey until something better comes

 along."



 Bill I just googled odyssey batteries and I could not find a link to the

 factory data sheets.  Do you have a link where I could find the data sheets?

 I would like to see the discharge graphs to figure my endurance bus time.

 My thought is to only spend the extra $$ to save 1.3 pounds after it is

 flying.  Right now saving $30 is smart because there are plenty of other

 things I need to buy to finish my bird.  The real question is can you get a

 better (cheeper, longer running at my e-bus load) 20AH battery from Odyssey

 than Panasonic?



 Regards,



 Bob Lee

 N52BL  KR2

 Suwanee, GA

 91% done only 65% to go!

franz(at)lastfrontierheli
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: New battery option

Just a heads up for those of you who are building a RV7A with a light

battery up front. I have an 0-360 with a Sensenich prop and I just did

the w&b calculations. It seem like planes with this configuration are

very light in the front. For instance if I have 2 180 lb people up front

and 100 lb luggage in the back, I would be out of the envelope in a low

fuel situation. It seems like if any of you are in the position of still

choosing the battery type, go with a full size heavy battery in front of

the firewall.

Final inspection soon.     



Franz Fux

Operations Manager

Last Frontier Heliskiing

www.lastfrontierheli.com

phone: 1 250 558-7980

Box 1118

Vernon, BC

V1T 6N4



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bob(at)flyboybob.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: New battery option

Bill,



Thanks for the link (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/files/techbook.pdf).

As it turns out the Odessey PC625 (17AH) is equal in discharge charistics to

the Panasonic LC-X1220P (20AH).  In addition, the Odessey 17AH battery out

performs the Panasonic 17AH battery for loads of my endurance bus.



So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?



Regards,



Bob Lee

N52BL  KR2

Suwanee, GA

91% done only 65% to go!

harley(at)AgelessWings.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: New battery option

Bob...

 

 A quick search on Google brought this up: 

 

 www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=ODY-PC625

 

 As far as I could see, in my few seconds of searching, this was the lowest price...other distributors Google found went as high as slightly over $100...

 

 Harley Dixon

 

 Bob Lee wrote: [quote]    	  Quote: 	
		  --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Lee" <bob(at)flyboybob.com> (bob(at)flyboybob.com)



Bill,



Thanks for the link (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/files/techbook.pdf).

As it turns out the Odessey PC625 (17AH) is equal in discharge charistics to

the Panasonic LC-X1220P (20AH).  In addition, the Odessey 17AH battery out

performs the Panasonic 17AH battery for loads of my endurance bus.



So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?



Regards,



Bob Lee

N52BL  KR2

Suwanee, GA

91% done only 65% to go!

  	
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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:45 am Post subject: New battery option

batteriesareus.com is who I dealt with.  I think it was 74.50 shipped,

but I've actually misplaced the paperwork at the moment.



-Bill B



On 10/17/06, Harley <harley(at)agelesswings.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

  Bob...



  A quick search on Google brought this up:



  www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=ODY-PC625



  As far as I could see, in my few seconds of searching, this was the lowest

 price...other distributors Google found went as high as slightly over

 $100...



  Harley Dixon

  ________________________________

  Bob Lee wrote:

  



 Bill,



 Thanks for the link

 (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/files/techbook.pdf).

 As it turns out the Odessey PC625 (17AH) is equal in discharge charistics to

 the Panasonic LC-X1220P (20AH). In addition, the Odessey 17AH battery out

 performs the Panasonic 17AH battery for loads of my endurance bus.



 So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?



 Regards,



 Bob Lee

 N52BL KR2

 Suwanee, GA

 91% done only 65% to go!



 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List

harley(at)AgelessWings.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: New battery option

Morning, Bill..

 

 Just checked there (www.batteriesareus.com) and the battery price is indeed $74.50...and free shipping...

 

 Harley

 

 Bill Boyd wrote: [quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Boyd" <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> (sportav8r(at)gmail.com)   

   

 batteriesareus.com is who I dealt with.  I think it was 74.50 shipped,   

 but I've actually misplaced the paperwork at the moment.   

   

 -Bill B   

   

 On 10/17/06, Harley <harley(at)agelesswings.com> (harley(at)agelesswings.com) wrote:   

    	  Quote: 	
		  

  Bob...     

     

  A quick search on Google brought this up:     

     

  www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=ODY-PC625     

     

  As far as I could see, in my few seconds of searching, this was the lowest     

 price...other distributors Google found went as high as slightly over     

 $100...     

     

  Harley Dixon     

  ________________________________     

     

     

  Bob Lee wrote:     

  --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Lee" <bob(at)flyboybob.com> (bob(at)flyboybob.com)     

     

 Bill,     

     

 Thanks for the link     

 (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/files/techbook.pdf).     

 As it turns out the Odessey PC625 (17AH) is equal in discharge charistics to     

 the Panasonic LC-X1220P (20AH). In addition, the Odessey 17AH battery out     

 performs the Panasonic 17AH battery for loads of my endurance bus.     

     

 So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?     

     

 Regards,     

     

 Bob Lee     

 N52BL KR2     

 Suwanee, GA     

 91% done only 65% to go!     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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Speedy11(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: New battery option

This is not related to batteries, but ... Franz, you have one of the coolest names I've ever seen!

 Stan Sutterfield

 Do not archive

  

  	  Quote: 	
		  Franz Fux

Operations Manager

Last Frontier Heliskiing

www.lastfrontierheli.com

phone: 1 250 558-7980

Box 1118

Vernon, BC 	


 

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khorton01(at)rogers.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: New battery option

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?


	


There used to be several vendors who sold a lot of Odyssey batteries  

on eBay.  I bought mine there for about $50, plus shipping.  I did a  

search on PC625, and only found one vendor now, but he sells them for  

$47 + $13 shipping.  Hard to beat that price.



http://tinyurl.com/sfwps



Kevin Horton         RV-8 (finishing kit)

Ottawa, Canada

http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8

bob(at)bob-white.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: New battery option

I would be a little cautious here.  Those don't look like Odyssey

batteries.  It looks to me like the actual part number is UB16CL-B and

they are meant to _replace_ the PC625.  His PC680's clearly say

"UNIVERSAL" on the side with a part number of UB22-12N.  FWIW.

Bob W.

Do not archive

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:19:10 -0400

Kevin Horton <khorton01(at)rogers.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 >

 > So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?

 There used to be several vendors who sold a lot of Odyssey batteries  

 on eBay.  I bought mine there for about $50, plus shipping.  I did a  

 search on PC625, and only found one vendor now, but he sells them for  

 $47 + $13 shipping.  Hard to beat that price.

 http://tinyurl.com/sfwps

 Kevin Horton         RV-8 (finishing kit)

 Ottawa, Canada

 http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8

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psychden(at)sonic.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: New battery option

bicyclop(at)pacbell.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: New battery option

Yeah, but that's not an odyssey battery that he's selling.



Pax,



Ed 



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harley(at)AgelessWings.co
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: New battery option

Kevin and others...

 

 I'd be cautious of the battery from eBay that you mentioned, Kevin...It's not an Odyssey. 

 

 http://tinyurl.com/sfwps is a Taiwan made rip off...number UB 16 CL-B (an obvious replacement for the Yuasu battery)it's bigger, (height and width), and according to the ad, it weighs 4 pounds LESS...wonder what they left out? <G>.

 

 May not be as desirable a replacement. 

 

 >From their website: "Gruber Power Services also manufactures batteries under the Gruber brand"

 

 Harley Dixon

 

 

 Kevin Horton wrote: [quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01(at)rogers.com> (khorton01(at)rogers.com)   

   

 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Lee" <bob(at)flyboybob.com> (bob(at)flyboybob.com)   

    	  Quote: 	
		  

 So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?     

   	
   

 There used to be several vendors who sold a lot of Odyssey batteries on eBay.  I bought mine there for about $50, plus shipping.  I did a search on PC625, and only found one vendor now, but he sells them for $47 + $13 shipping.  Hard to beat that price.   

   

 http://tinyurl.com/sfwps   

   

 Kevin Horton         RV-8 (finishing kit)   

 Ottawa, Canada   

 http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

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khorton01(at)rogers.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: New battery option

Yeah, I should have looked more closely at that auction before I  

posted it.  The PC680 I bought a couple of years ago is definitely an  

Odyssey, but the prices on eBay have really gone up since then.  I  

got mine for about $50, which was the going rate then.  Now they are  

selling for around $90.



Kevin



On 18 Oct 2006, at 07:40, Harley wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Kevin and others...



 I'd be cautious of the battery from eBay that you mentioned,  

 Kevin...It's not an Odyssey.



 http://tinyurl.com/sfwps is a Taiwan made rip off...number UB 16 CL- 

 B (an obvious replacement for the Yuasu battery)it's bigger,  

 (height and width), and according to the ad, it weighs 4 pounds  

 LESS...wonder what they left out? <G>.



 May not be as desirable a replacement.



 >From their website: "Gruber Power Services also manufactures  

 batteries under the Gruber brand"



 Harley Dixon

 Kevin Horton wrote:

> 

> <khorton01(at)rogers.com>

>

> 

> <bob(at)flyboybob.com>

>>

>> So where can we find the best price on an Odessey PC625?

>

> There used to be several vendors who sold a lot of Odyssey  

> batteries on eBay.  I bought mine there for about $50, plus  

> shipping.  I did a search on PC625, and only found one vendor now,  

> but he sells them for $47 + $13 shipping.  Hard to beat that price.

>

> http://tinyurl.com/sfwps

>

> Kevin Horton         RV-8 (finishing kit)

> Ottawa, Canada

> http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8

>

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