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EuropaXSA276(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: Using Super Fill

All:

  

 I have just had my first go at applying superfil to the surfaces of my control surfaces. I tested the product on the underside of the trim tab just in case I goofed.

 I am disappointed with the application of this product. I expected a Bondo type consistency.  However this was a bit thicker and difficult to spread. Temperature in the shop is about 75 degrees today. I am using an automotive type bondo squeegee to apply this product. 

 The problem is that it is now going on very smoothly. This leaves voids and high points on the surface.  It looks awful. I was expecting a much smoother surface.  I am attempting to just cover the weave here but I know there is going to be a lot of sanding to cut these peaks. 

  

 And comments or observations using this stuff would be greatly appreciated.

  

 Brian Skelly

Europa XS TriGear #A276

North Texas USA

You can see my build photos at:

http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS

  

  

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hagargs(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: Using Super Fill

Brian:

  

 I have  had nothing but good luck with superfill. (other than the time I mixed it at the wrong ratio of 1 to 1).  I have seen individuals slather it on in the hopes of  getting everrything in one shot.  Thus having a lot of high areas and god awful amounts of sanding.  If you are just trying to fill the weave you only need a skim coat.  As when you are done sanding you should only see a speckled blue surface where the superfill has  filled in only the low points of the weave.  I have  taken my filling jobs slowly taking several passes and curing sessions.  I find it easier and more precise to fill in the low spots after each cure rather than knocking down mountains of excess filler.  It may take longer for the  extra curing sessions so it is advisable to work  on 2 pieces at a time.  Also when having a first go at anything work on the side not normally seen by you.  Eith  er the  bottom side of the control surface or the co-pilot's side.  That way once you develop your technique the tops always look good as well as what you see from the cockpit.

  

 Steve Hagar

 A143

 N40SH

 flying off the 40 hrs

  

  Steve Hagar

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CraigEllison

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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: Using Super Fill

Brian,

  

 use a hair-dryer to add some heat.  makes the job go much  better.

  

 craig ellison

 xs mono/914/airmaster

 62hr 

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ptag.dev(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject: Using Super Fill

Hi! Brian  

I see a recommendation to use a hair drier for making the spreading easier……..if you are working above any polystyrene watch out for heat build up beyond acceptable levels due to the thermal conductivity, it can expand under the fibreglass at a greater rate and seriously spoil your level surface and your day !  

Preferably get the workshop up to temperature over a long period and allow the work piece and all the materials to get their heat sink all uniform gradually.  

Thin layers are the order of the day.  

Regards  

Bob Harrison G-PTAG   

   

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All:  

    

   

    

I have just had my first go at applying superfil to the surfaces of my control surfaces. I tested the product on the underside of the trim tab just in case I goofed.  

    

I am disappointed with the application of this product. I expected a Bondo type consistency.  However this was a bit thicker and difficult to spread. Temperature in the shop is about 75 degrees today. I am using an automotive type bondo squeegee to apply this product.   

    

The problem is that it is now going on very smoothly. This leaves voids and high points on the surface.  It looks awful. I was expecting a much smoother surface.  I am attempting to just cover the weave here but I know there is going to be a lot of sanding to cut these peaks.   

    

   

    

And comments or observations using this stuff would be greatly appreciated.  

    

   

    

Brian Skelly

 Europa XS TriGear #A276

 North Texas USA

 You can see my build photos at:

 http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS  

    

   

    

   

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donald.kesterton(at)logic
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: Using Super Fill

[quote]   Brian,

    

   I have found Super Fill an excellent    product.  In particular it feathers very well, enabling multiple    applications to be applied and sanded smooth.  This I understand is not    the case with the standard filler provided.

    

   You are correct though, out of the tin it    is a bit difficult to spread.

    

   I use a wide metal spreader which I heat    up quickly with a hair dryer before each application. This avoids    application of direct heat onto the plane component which I don't recommend,    without a lot of care!!  With the heat from the spreader the super fill    goes on much easier.

    

   Donald Kesterton

   UK Builder Mono G-PATS

   Still building slowly

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