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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Zenairs & Snow, Reply with quote

I was whining earlier about the recent snowfall. Made the 10 mile trip to
the airport and all the tricycle gear aircraft but one were sitting on
their asses. We had about 6 inches of partly cloudy and a 1/2 inch of
ice. The CH2000 has a very small stabilator so I figured it would not be
on its butt. WRONG. I cleaned all the snow from it and only when I
started to get to ice did the plane rebalance to the nose wheel. I had
already cleaned the top of the fuselage off. Obviously I am going to have
to make regular airport visits to keep the nose on the
ground. Unfortunately when you pull the controls full back on the CH2000
/Alarus it is almost horizontal so it really collects snow. I need to
call Zenair tomorrow about the winter fronts they promised me. Cold oil
temperatures are a regular problem with this airplane. The factory spells
out 20-50 W oil for the Lycoming 0-235. 65 W seems more appropriate for
northern climates. or 15W50 Aeroshell. Observations or comments on cold
weather flying in CH2000s are welcome. My bird came from New Hampshire
but from a divorce settlement via 3rd party so I have no real folks to ask
direct ??? to,

I had the cabin heat on Friday afternoon but didn't notice any great source
of warmth in the 35F weather.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Zenairs & Snow, Reply with quote

Sorry, but since I live in San Antonio, Texas I have only a conceptual
notion as to this "snow" to which you refer.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: Zenairs & Snow, Reply with quote

On this note of the plane on balance- The plans for the 601 xl show the flat part of the main gear facing forward, yet other planes are facing back. I called the shop and they put the flat part forward based on the Jabiru being heavier and the plane would fly off on take off versus having to unstick it. Any thoughts, mine is in place flat side forward. but if push comes to shove I can turn the mains araound.
Juan

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Zenairs & Snow, Reply with quote

Texas eh? Conceptual is all you want...Believe me!

Noel
Nfld. No snow yet thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Zenairs & Snow, Reply with quote

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> Jabiru being heavier

The Jabiru is heavier than what? About the only lighter engine that I know
of installed on XLs is the Rotax 912. Aren't the rest heavier?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Zenairs & Snow, Reply with quote

The decision is ultimately yours, the old plans had the taper at the
front and the new plans have it reversed. The new way allows the wings
to provide rotation at an earlier stage and the balance is better on the
mains which stops any tendency of dropping the nose on landings. The
down side is with one person sitting in a seat it is possible for a
second person to tail the plane into the apron ( and boy you should see
the look on a persons face when the tail makes a huge thump and this is
with a Cont 0-200 installed). Now in the old way with the landing gear
having the taper in front then you could have two people stand on the
steps and not tail out the plane. So for easier landings and take offs
go the new way. I tend to recommend the old way and just hold the nose
off on landings. But once again the choice is ultimately yours.

Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president(at)can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Zenairs & Snow, Reply with quote

thats right, rotx lightest, jabiru being heavier.
the question isn't weight of a specific engine. the question is when do you place the mains flat side forward and do you go by plans or by book? and does it impact take off and landing and is there a prefference?

Juan

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Zenairs & Snow, Reply with quote

your explanation is puts it clearly, thanx I am going with Taper to the back. Will give an update when I fly.

Juan

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