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jimlc(at)att.net
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: Anybody There?

I joined this list after I ordered the 3300A Jabiru firewall forward 

package as a replacement for my NSI turbo CAP Sabaru engine package 

on my Kitfox Series 5.  As best I can tell I have never received a 

message posted by a member of this list.  Am I the only member?



Receiving only a small portion of the emails I receive on the Kitfox 

List is a relief, but to never receive one in over a month is another 

thing.  



Jim Crowder

xl(at)prosody.org
Guest

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: Anybody There?

There appears to be very little traffic on this list.



Have you cleaned your carburator lately???

(Should be in the maintenance call outs........)



Joe E

N633Z (at) BFI

CH601XL 402 hours

Jabiru 3300, Sensenich 64x49 wood prop

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, Jim Crowder wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 I joined this list after I ordered the 3300A Jabiru firewall forward

 package as a replacement for my NSI turbo CAP Sabaru engine package

 on my Kitfox Series 5.  As best I can tell I have never received a

 message posted by a member of this list.  Am I the only member?



 Receiving only a small portion of the emails I receive on the Kitfox

 List is a relief, but to never receive one in over a month is another

 thing.  

 Jim Crowder



 do not archive

jimlc(at)att.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: Anybody There?

Joe,

I will not receive my engine until late February as per their 

acknowledgement.  I was told when I ordered it that since they had 

added hydraulic valve lifters to the engine, there had been a surge 

in orders and a push out in delivery times.  So no I have not cleaned 

my carburetor.  What is the story behind this?  How do you like your 

engine?  How long have you had it?  Is there anything else you can 

tell me?  What can you tell me about its performance?  Where are you 

located?  I have had little owner feedback up until now and am 

starved for information.



Many thanks,



Jim Crowder

Loveland, CO



At 11:45 PM 10/29/2006, you wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  There appears to be very little traffic on this list.



Have you cleaned your carburator lately???

(Should be in the maintenance call outs........)



Joe E

N633Z (at) BFI

CH601XL 402 hours

Jabiru 3300, Sensenich 64x49 wood prop

xl(at)prosody.org
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: Anybody There?

I've been flying 633Z since April 2004.

I don't have the hydraulic lifters so every 50 hours I check the valve

clearance. I check the head bolt + prop bolt torque at the same time.

The engine runs smooth + strong. I've taken a bunch of fellow 601XL

builders + prospective builders along and they like it too.

I had a couple of instances of rough running on takeoff and one during

a climb at 2000 feet. I grounded the plane after that one and didn't

make the Zenith Cooperstown CA (I think) flyin. I removed and cleaned

the carburetor that weekend. The slide position is controlled by vacuum.

And the rubber bellows provides the resistance and return force.

When I moved the slide with my finger I noted rough spots near idle and

near full throttle - where the slide spends most of its time. I used

carburetor cleaner liberally to remove the dark deposits. And the slide

moved freely in all positions.

I've flown about 5 hours since then and the engine runs more smoothly at

idle and at cruise. The contamination built up slowly in the carburetor

and I didn't notice the change - except for the stumbles, and I didn't

like those a bit. I am confident that I found the problem. I ruled out

other causes.

Now that I know what the symptoms of carburetor buildup are I'll clean

the carburetor when I notice them or every annual - which ever comes

first. I took another look at my copy of the Jabiru maintenance manual

and I see no mention of this critical maintenance item.

I tried the yahoo groups - yuk. If no one posts on this group, I'll miss

out. But, I don't like the yahoo groups site.

Joe E

633Z (at) BFI

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Jim Crowder wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Joe,

 I will not receive my engine until late February as per their

 acknowledgement.  I was told when I ordered it that since they had

 added hydraulic valve lifters to the engine, there had been a surge

 in orders and a push out in delivery times.  So no I have not cleaned

 my carburetor.  What is the story behind this?  How do you like your

 engine?  How long have you had it?  Is there anything else you can

 tell me?  What can you tell me about its performance?  Where are you

 located?  I have had little owner feedback up until now and am

 starved for information.

 Jim Crowder

 Loveland, CO

 At 11:45 PM 10/29/2006, you wrote:

 >There appears to be very little traffic on this list.

 >Have you cleaned your carburator lately???

 >(Should be in the maintenance call outs........)

 >Joe E

 >N633Z (at) BFI

 >CH601XL 402 hours

 >Jabiru 3300, Sensenich 64x49 wood prop

jimlc(at)att.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: Anybody There?

Joe,

Thanks for the reply.  I will remember your experience and stay 

posted to the list.

Jim Crowder

Loveland, CO

At 11:58 PM 10/30/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

I've been flying 633Z since April 2004.

I don't have the hydraulic lifters so every 50 hours I check the valve

clearance. I check the head bolt + prop bolt torque at the same time.

The engine runs smooth + strong. I've taken a bunch of fellow 601XL

builders + prospective builders along and they like it too.

I had a couple of instances of rough running on takeoff and one during

a climb at 2000 feet. I grounded the plane after that one and didn't

make the Zenith Cooperstown CA (I think) flyin. I removed and cleaned

the carburetor that weekend. The slide position is controlled by vacuum.

And the rubber bellows provides the resistance and return force.

When I moved the slide with my finger I noted rough spots near idle and

near full throttle - where the slide spends most of its time. I used

carburetor cleaner liberally to remove the dark deposits. And the slide

moved freely in all positions.

I've flown about 5 hours since then and the engine runs more smoothly at

idle and at cruise. The contamination built up slowly in the carburetor

and I didn't notice the change - except for the stumbles, and I didn't

like those a bit. I am confident that I found the problem. I ruled out

other causes.

Now that I know what the symptoms of carburetor buildup are I'll clean

the carburetor when I notice them or every annual - which ever comes

first. I took another look at my copy of the Jabiru maintenance manual

and I see no mention of this critical maintenance item.

I tried the yahoo groups - yuk. If no one posts on this group, I'll miss

out. But, I don't like the yahoo groups site.

Joe E

633Z (at) BFI

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Jim Crowder wrote:

 > 

 > Joe,

 > I will not receive my engine until late February as per their

 > acknowledgement.  I was told when I ordered it that since they had

 > added hydraulic valve lifters to the engine, there had been a surge

 > in orders and a push out in delivery times.  So no I have not cleaned

 > my carburetor.  What is the story behind this?  How do you like your

 > engine?  How long have you had it?  Is there anything else you can

 > tell me?  What can you tell me about its performance?  Where are you

 > located?  I have had little owner feedback up until now and am

 > starved for information.

 > Jim Crowder

 > Loveland, CO

 >

 > At 11:45 PM 10/29/2006, you wrote:

 > >There appears to be very little traffic on this list.

 > >Have you cleaned your carburator lately???

 > >(Should be in the maintenance call outs........)

 > >Joe E

 > >N633Z (at) BFI

 > >CH601XL 402 hours

 > >Jabiru 3300, Sensenich 64x49 wood prop

 >

deuskid

Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 26
Location: St Louis, MO

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Anybody There?

I'm here because I'm considering a Lightning with a 3300 but these were the first posts presented since I joined this list.  



Kind of library quiet around here.... 



John

CHMIK(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: Anybody There?

Jim, I monitor the site and have never seen any traffic....I plan to put a Jabiru on my Lightning when the kit is delivered and I finish it. I, like you, wonder if anyone has been responding or is the Jabiru-list not funcitioning..charlie keith (KFKN).   [quote][b]

kensmith(at)springnet1.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: Anybody There?

What Type (auto fuel or aviation fuel), what Brand and what Octane fuel were you using 

 when the rough engine problems occured?

 Jim Crowder wrote:

 [quote]

 --> Jabiru-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc(at)att.net> (jimlc(at)att.net)   

 Joe,   

 Thanks for the reply.  I will remember your experience and stay posted to the list.   

 Jim Crowder   

 Loveland, CO   

 At 11:58 PM 10/30/2006, you wrote:   

    	  Quote: 	
		  --> Jabiru-List message posted by: xl <xl(at)prosody.org> (xl(at)prosody.org)     

 I've been flying 633Z since April 2004.     

 I don't have the hydraulic lifters so every 50 hours I check the valve     

 clearance. I check the head bolt + prop bolt torque at the same time.     

 The engine runs smooth + strong. I've taken a bunch of fellow 601XL     

 builders + prospective builders along and they like it too.     

 I had a couple of instances of rough running on takeoff and one during     

 a climb at 2000 feet. I grounded the plane after that one and didn't     

 make the Zenith Cooperstown CA (I think) flyin. I removed and cleaned     

 the carburetor that weekend. The slide position is controlled by vacuum.     

 And the rubber bellows provides the resistance and return force.     

 When I moved the slide with my finger I noted rough spots near idle and     

 near full throttle - where the slide spends most of its time. I used     

 carburetor cleaner liberally to remove the dark deposits. And the slide     

 moved freely in all positions.     

 I've flown about 5 hours since then and the engine runs more smoothly at     

 idle and at cruise. The contamination built up slowly in the carburetor     

 and I didn't notice the change - except for the stumbles, and I didn't     

 like those a bit. I am confident that I found the problem. I ruled out     

 other causes.     

 Now that I know what the symptoms of carburetor buildup are I'll clean     

 the carburetor when I notice them or every annual - which ever comes     

 first. I took another look at my copy of the Jabiru maintenance manual     

 and I see no mention of this critical maintenance item.     

 I tried the yahoo groups - yuk. If no one posts on this group, I'll miss     

 out. But, I don't like the yahoo groups site.     

 Joe E     

 633Z (at) BFI     

 On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Jim Crowder wrote:     

 > --> Jabiru-List message posted by: Jim Crowder <jimlc(at)att.net> (jimlc(at)att.net)     

 > Joe,     

 > I will not receive my engine until late February as per their     

 > acknowledgement.  I was told when I ordered it that since they had     

 > added hydraulic valve lifters to the engine, there had been a surge     

 > in orders and a push out in delivery times.  So no I have not cleaned     

 > my carburetor.  What is the story behind this?  How do you like your     

 > engine?  How long have you had it?  Is there anything else you can     

 > tell me?  What can you tell me about its performance?  Where are you     

 > located?  I have had little owner feedback up until now and am     

 > starved for information.     

 > Jim Crowder     

 > Loveland, CO     

 >     

 > At 11:45 PM 10/29/2006, you wrote:     

 > >There appears to be very little traffic on this list.     

 > >Have you cleaned your carburator lately???     

 > >(Should be in the maintenance call outs........)     

 > >Joe E     

 > >N633Z (at) BFI     

 > >CH601XL 402 hours     

 > >Jabiru 3300, Sensenich 64x49 wood prop     

 >     

 [b]

andy(at)suncoastjabiru.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: Anybody There?

Charlie,  

   

We started the list as a USA Jabiru aircraft kits distributor, and with some 20 aircraft built under our supervision we are happy to provide both advice and comments about Jabiru aircraft where possible. It’s true there hasn’t been much activity but let’s hope more Jabiru owners / builder join and get involved!  

   

For those seeking information about Jabiru engines for operation in non-Jabiru aircraft, please visit the Matronics Jabiru Engine List at http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=29&sid=73595155690d945abfb1907109795baa  

   

We’ll do our best on both lists to help where needed.  

   

Andy Silvester  

         

Suncoast Sportplanes, Inc.  

  

  

39248 South Ave. Zephyrhills, FL 33542  

Tel: 813 779 2324 Fax: 813 779 2246  

www.suncoastjabiru.com  

  

   

--

Snow_Board(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: Anybody There?

Hello All,

I'm new to the list and trying to learn the ins & outs of the Jabiru 3.0l

engines.

Regards,

L David Stricker

--

Snow_Board(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: Anybody There?

Hello John,

Same here. I saw the one at CopperState and was very impressed.

Planning on a demo ride later in November.

Regards,

L David Stricker

Goodyear AZ

--

xl(at)prosody.org
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: Anybody There?

- 100LL

- new plugs

- new air cleaner

- new fuel filter

- carb heat on

- electric boost pump on

- recent oil change

- recent valve clearance check



- stumble during climb at ~2000'



- clean carburator



- noticable improvement in performance, during ~5 hours of flight

 - smoother at idle

 - smoother at cruise

 - hopefully no more stumbles - time will tell



Joe E

N633Z (at) BFI

CH601XL, 404 hours

Jabiru 3300, Sensenich 64x49 wood prop

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, kensmith(at)springnet1.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   What Type (auto fuel or aviation fuel), what Brand and what Octane fuel

 were you using

 when the rough engine problems occured?

 Jim Crowder wrote:

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