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occom

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 404

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

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 > Dave.

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 > The mounting plate goes on outside  of hub.

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There have been a couple of replies stating this and I'm confused. I have a 

spinner mounting plate that is about 1/8" thick and 7" diameter. It was 

originally used with a GSC prop that now hangs in the basement. The spinner 

attaches with 9 machine screws around it's base. I must mount this between 

the Warp HPL hub and the mounting flange. After the hub I have the choice of 

using just washers under the heads of the 8mm bolts or another flange like 

plate (which has suddenly gone AWOL). Any locknuts or other fastening helper 

must go in the space between the C-box and the mounting flange. My immediate 

though is to use cross-drilled bolts with washers under the heads and 

nothing behind the flange, wire secured. However I am a complete neophyte in 

aviation matters and I am willing to be educated.

dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:31 am Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

Dave ,



I mount the HPL hub right on to the gearbox hub.

If I had a spinner  --it would go   HUB   -  spinner backing plate  - HPL 

hub - 1/8 inch plate  - then  8mm  bolts with washers under the head .  Your 

Hub should be threaded for the 8mm bolts.

You can use a nyloc an nut on back side of hub to secure them   or metal 

lock nuts if you have.



I would not use safety wire until you have tweaked your prop to where you 

want it .

Also no need for locktite either but some will still use it.   If you feel 

like lockwire  just drill the heads and install it . But when you install 

your spinner  you might want to use locktight on screws.



Hope this helps  you  and I would call Warp to verify  all this rambling 



Dave

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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

Not sure that I follow exactly what you have but the prop hub must go onto 

the prop flange. Then the spinner mounting plate. As mentioned in my last, I 

have a re-enforcing ring flange on the outer face of the spinner mounting 

plate.





From:  "Dave G." <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca>

Reply-To:  kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

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Subject:  Warp Drive mounting

Date:  Sun, 5 Nov 2006 07:36:58 -0400




 	  Quote: 	
		   > 

 >

 > Dave.

 >

 > The mounting plate goes on outside  of hub.

 >


	


There have been a couple of replies stating this and I'm confused. I have a 

spinner mounting plate that is about 1/8" thick and 7" diameter. It was 

originally used with a GSC prop that now hangs in the basement. The spinner 

attaches with 9 machine screws around it's base. I must mount this between 

the Warp HPL hub and the mounting flange. After the hub I have the choice of 

using just washers under the heads of the 8mm bolts or another flange like 

plate (which has suddenly gone AWOL). Any locknuts or other fastening helper 

must go in the space between the C-box and the mounting flange. My immediate 

though is to use cross-drilled bolts with washers under the heads and 

nothing behind the flange, wire secured. However I am a complete neophyte in 

aviation matters and I am willing to be educated.



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dosmythe(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

Dave,

    I have probably the same situation as you.  My spinner/plate cabe off a 

GSC and I'm using it on the Warp.  See attached picture of how mine is 

mounted.  Nine #10 screws go through the spinner and into the plate.



Don Smythe

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		   From:  "Dave G." <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca>


	


 	  Quote: 	
		   There have been a couple of replies stating this and I'm confused. I have 

 a spinner mounting plate that is about 1/8" thick and 7" diameter. It was 

 originally used with a GSC prop that now hangs in the basement. The 

 spinner attaches with 9 machine screws around it's base. I must mount this 

 between the Warp HPL hub and the mounting flange. After the hub I have the 

 choice of using just washers under the heads of the 8mm bolts or another 

 flange like plate (which has suddenly gone AWOL). Any locknuts or other 

 fastening helper must go in the space between the C-box and the mounting 

 flange. My immediate though is to use cross-drilled bolts with washers 

 under the heads and nothing behind the flange, wire secured. However I am 

 a complete neophyte in aviation matters and I am willing to be educated.

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occom

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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

I've attached an slightly exploded view of the  spinner and hub. (ignore the title, software picked it) As you can see locknuts  would be a little inconvenient behind the plate. I've sent it to Warpdrive props  also for comment. 

  

 >  Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <janderson412(at)hotmail.com (janderson412(at)hotmail.com)>



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		  Not sure that I follow exactly what you have but the prop  hub must go onto 

the prop flange. Then the spinner mounting plate. As  mentioned in my last, I 

have a re-enforcing ring flange on the outer  face of the spinner mounting  

plate.

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occom

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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

Thanks Don, that is exactly what I need.

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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

Dave ,   That looks right.    Just use the round crushplate on the outside of the warp hub  then put you  bolts through that.   I have a E box  and it is tight to get  locknuts on but i have them on  an no safety wire.  But you can use  safety wire if you like.    I would not put on spinner till you  all done playing with prop etc.  I don't have a spin on the WARP  but  I might get one for looks,  I doubt you would gain much with it  but  who knows,  the Kitfox has a huge hole up front  and most likely alot  more thant required.

  

  

 Dave 

  

  

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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

I should mention that  I have the Aluminum hub  - 2 parts   front and rear 

and no the kind with hte plates.



Dave

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dosmythe(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

My drawing might have the spinner plate reversed.  That is, the flange goes 

toward the rear.  Not sure without looking.  When I installed the GSC 

spinner, I had to do a little bit of trimming on the spinner to fit over the 

Warp prop.



Don Smythe

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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

I think it depends on the spinner.  It seems not all are mounted the same. 

My Warp spinner mounting plate, at least I think it was from Warp as it came 

with the prop from Skystar, is mounted last (forward of the prop hub)  as 

the flange for the actual spinner mounting is tapered aft with cutouts for 

the prop blades.



The squash plate, I think, is primarily used for the wood props.  My set-up 

came with one, but the bolts shipped were too short for installation of the 

plate.  I decided that the plate was something for the Misc Kitfox Box if 

using the Warp prop.



The former is as it is, the latter is an opinion.



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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

Lowell,



The  spinner of choice for me would the UHS. He makes them  near me and they 

are excellent.

Yes you will need longer bolts using the "crush plate"  But i THink My new 

WARP came with it .  I will look up intructions and see.   I did not like 

the bolts directly on  the machined hub.



Dave

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Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: Warp Drive mounting

At 03:51 AM 11/6/2006, you wrote:

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		  The  spinner of choice for me would the UHS. He makes them  near me and they

are excellent.


	


Dave,

         I was a little disappointed in the 10" UHS I purchased for my Warp 

3 blade, HP-L hub. When I received it the cut-outs for the blades were very 

irregular; clearly done by hand and not jig. The hub nuts for the spinner 

screws were not locking, or had been blown out. Once installed the tip ran 

true, but the skirt varied by as much as 3/16" irregularly. Their bulkhead 

tooling was very irregular, (it should be perfect, being a simple turning,) 

and was smaller than the spinner. This caused several of the counter-sunk 

spinner fasteners to pull through in the first 40 hours, remedied by using 

Tinnerman washers and a thick plastic tape build-up on the bulkhead to make 

the spinner fit snug.

         My recommendations for anyone who buys one is to NOT have UHS do 

the cut-outs, install and blend Tinnerman washers before you fly, squeeze 

the backs of the blind nuts so they lock, and build up the bulkhead so the 

spinner fits tight. (Better yet, pot the bulkhead in place so the spinner 

runs true at both ends.)

Guy Buchanan

K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.

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