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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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 Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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Is there anyone with a non-assembled or accessible cleaveland
brake set that can tell me which linings are the ones required
for our brakes? Here's the aircraft spruce pages:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/rapco_brklinig.php
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/cleve_brklining.php
I'd like to put in an order and get some winter project supplies
stocked up, and thought I'd do the brakes soon. I've been
a bit hard on them this year. Once I get the part number and
replace them, I'll post it on my site for future reference. I'm
compiling a list of common replacement part numbers and torque
specs and such, so we have a reference while doing maintenance.
Brake linings should be part of this...but mine are hard to
get to now.
Today I filled up my mains with winter air (you know, you have
to change it twice a year up here in the north country  )
and found that the tire wear is definitely much greater on the
outer stripe of the tire. My left main has a lot of that outer
stripe worn down, while the rest of the tire is pretty good yet.
It looks like the tire will be changed based on the outer
area wearing....not the overall tread being gone. I also
have a low spot on each main....probably from a little slide
or being too quick to slow down with the brakes some time
a long time ago. I've noticed a slight bumping while taxi for
a while now and could tell it was the tires.
Thanks in advance for the part check!
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kdbelue(at)charter.net
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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Tim,
I checked my brake calipers and they are part # 30-59E. The brake lining
listed for this caliper on Cleveland's website is part # 66-112.
I couldn't find a Rapco lining for this caliper.
Kevin Belue
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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Thanks Kevin,
Surprising that not only do we use one of the brake linings that Rapco
doesn't make, but they're also some of the most expensive types.
The wheels must have been cheap, 'cuz it's not like them to go with
the expensive stuff.
After getting your message, I searched them up and it looks like
to do the entire plane would cost 4 linings at just under $15 each.
Before I order I'm going to make sure that it isn't quantity of
2 that we need in case they're sold in pairs and when they give
the quantity required it's for doing both wheels.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Kevin Belue wrote:
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Tim,
I checked my brake calipers and they are part # 30-59E. The brake lining
listed for this caliper on Cleveland's website is part # 66-112.
I couldn't find a Rapco lining for this caliper.
Kevin Belue
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apilot2(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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Might be worth sending Rapco an email. If they knew there was an
upcoming demand for 600 aircraft within a couple years, they might get
interested in producing those particular pads, especially if they were
only for experimentals.
On 11/4/06, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:
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Thanks Kevin,
Surprising that not only do we use one of the brake linings that Rapco
doesn't make, but they're also some of the most expensive types.
The wheels must have been cheap, 'cuz it's not like them to go with
the expensive stuff.
After getting your message, I searched them up and it looks like
to do the entire plane would cost 4 linings at just under $15 each.
Before I order I'm going to make sure that it isn't quantity of
2 that we need in case they're sold in pairs and when they give
the quantity required it's for doing both wheels.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Kevin Belue wrote:
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> Tim,
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> I checked my brake calipers and they are part # 30-59E. The brake lining
> listed for this caliper on Cleveland's website is part # 66-112.
> I couldn't find a Rapco lining for this caliper.
>
> Kevin Belue
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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DONE! Now we'll see if they listen.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Kelly McMullen wrote:
[quote]
Might be worth sending Rapco an email. If they knew there was an
upcoming demand for 600 aircraft within a couple years, they might get
interested in producing those particular pads, especially if they were
only for experimentals.
On 11/4/06, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Kevin,
> Surprising that not only do we use one of the brake linings that Rapco
> doesn't make, but they're also some of the most expensive types.
> The wheels must have been cheap, 'cuz it's not like them to go with
> the expensive stuff.
>
> After getting your message, I searched them up and it looks like
> to do the entire plane would cost 4 linings at just under $15 each.
> Before I order I'm going to make sure that it isn't quantity of
> 2 that we need in case they're sold in pairs and when they give
> the quantity required it's for doing both wheels.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
> Kevin Belue wrote:
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> > Tim,
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> > I checked my brake calipers and they are part # 30-59E. The brake
> lining
> > listed for this caliper on Cleveland's website is part # 66-112.
> > I couldn't find a Rapco lining for this caliper.
> >
> > Kevin Belue
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kdbelue(at)charter.net
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:46 am Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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What's strange is the Aircraft Spruce catalog shows a picture of the Rapco
version but it is not listed in their parts list.
Kevin Belue
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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That photo must be just similar, but not the same. I see even on
Rapco's site they don't list a match for 30-59E.
http://www.rapcoinc.com/pdf/kits.pdf
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Kevin Belue wrote:
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What's strange is the Aircraft Spruce catalog shows a picture of the
Rapco version but it is not listed in their parts list.
Kevin Belue
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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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I don't have any info on the brakes, but I will say that we have already
changed them once on N256H. It is VERY easy to ride the brakes if you are
not careful. I know this is common knowledge, but be careful to keep the
pressure at least close to where it needs to be. My dad had pressure a
little too low the other day (it didn't look low by how the plane sat, but
must have been too low) and when he landed the tire spun on the rim and
broke the valve stem, which in turn let all the air out of the tire, which
somewhat busted up the wheel pant, etc, etc, etc. It would certainly be
nice to have an easy-access door to be able to check pressure and add air if
needed in the tires, but the wheel pant is so fat that you really need a
panel big enough to fit your hand through, not just a plug to fit a pressure
gauge through like some planes have. What have others done in this area?
As far as tire wear, we have noticed the same thing. We swapped the tires
right for left, I believe, which allow them to wear on the opposite sides as
they were originally, but now it is time to change them (almost 300 hours of
flying). Brakes lasted about 150 hours the first time, but braking methods
may have changed a little, so we will see how long they last this time.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
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C: 352-427-0285
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: Cleaveland Brake Lining Replacement part # |
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For those following this thread....
I just got off the phone with Rapco. The guy I talked to
had already seen my email passed around the company.
They basically said that it's a pretty small market for
those pads, but that doesn't make it too bad. What it
does is make it hard to justify them making them as
a *certified* product. They said the material would be
the same as the other part numbers, just a different form
factor, and if they wanted to make them for the experimental
market, they could assign a different part number and
possibly get these things to us cheaper and easier.
He said they hadn't had a chance to sit down and talk
about it much, but that if they ended up doing them, they'd
probably submit the order for the tooling required at some
time when they have other tooling to send for. So there
is a bit of work leading up to getting them available.
In short, I should buy them and replace them right now
using Cleveland standard part 66-112, but perhaps sometime
down the road we'll have an option. He's going to keep
me appraised if things come together so we can let
you all know.
Hopefully we'll see the same market force type effect happen
in this area as we've seen with everything else so far.
The -10's definitely are a market of their own.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Paul Grimstad wrote:
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There is a guy in the EAA105 group called "mauleguy" that manufactures
custom brake pads. He needed something better for the oversized balloon
tires on the Maule. I don't know if he has a pad for the RV10 model, but
I bet he might be interested in a new market. He runs an ad in the
monthly news letter. (a bit long to down load) Try: Greg Miller (at)
503-257-2573 or mauleguy(at)aol.com or GSM Machine & Tool Inc.; 8750 NE
Alberta St., Portland, Or. 97220. I have no connection with this guy or
experience with his product, just saw his presentation at the EAA
chapter meeting a while back. Information only.
Paul Grimstad
RV-10 40405
Portland, OR 97219
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