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dosmythe(at)cox.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

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		  >The only â?opaperworkâ? you need to be concerned with is the W&B sheet, 

>and that is where you  take your aircraft empty weight number from,, and 

>inset it into,  the >>


	


Am I the only one seeing the strange postings?  It's full of ????? and other 

squares and such.  Very hard to read



Don Smythe

temco(at)telusplanet.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

Don



I get the same thing --- I think Steve has his HTML turned on rather than

plain text. At any rate I just delete all those anyway,



Regards ---- Ted

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Lynn Matteson

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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

Nope, I'm seeing them too, Don. I thought it was my eMac interpreting 

something wrongly. I agree, it's VERY annoying...like pot scrubbers, 

eh? But, following my own advice, I've pretty much switched channels.

Lynn

do not archive

On Monday, November 6, 2006, at 05:57  PM, Don Smythe wrote:

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>> The only â?opaperworkâ?· you need to be concerned with is the W&B 

>> sheet, and that is where you  take your aircraft empty weight number 

>> from,, and inset it into,  the >>

 Am I the only one seeing the strange postings?  It's full of ????? and 

 other squares and such.  Very hard to read

 Don Smythe

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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

Lynn you old  pot scrubber --  at leat your toes are warm  now      LOL

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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

Don, me too.  I wonder if it is intentional.  Something like a John Gault 

thing.



Lowell

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kirkhull(at)kc.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

Your not alone.  I'm getting the same thing



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tpcolman(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

My sense is that this argument has become an intellectual one for you Steve.  For me it is not intellectual.  The rules, and FAA's interpretation of them, will dictate exactly what I fly.  I have seen fairly authoritative sources say that you are wrong, and someone posted a page from an EAA publication that definitely says you are wrong.  I speak as someone who would love for you to be right.



The difference between you and me is that I am not willing to spend tons of money on the chance that you are right.  Can you get an FAA source to publicly agree with you?  If not let's all agree to move on.



Tim Colman



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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

Just reading the mail here. 

It appears that if Steve is true to his convictions he should take the FAA

to court ( after all it's a free country ) and let the chips fall where they

may.  If he can't afford to do that .... Too bad you will have to live with

what ever FAA says their interpretation of their regulations are.



Noel



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84KF
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

When you  read , and understand, the rules and regulations you will learn, beyond a shadow of doubt,  and in  proper English, that :



1) You may fly a 1550 design weight amateur-built aircraft under sport pilot privileges., 



2) You may remove the in-flight adjustable propeller from you â€œamateur-builtâ€ aircraft and install a fixed pitch propeller, and still be eligible for use under sport pilot privileges.



3) The since words â€œoriginal certification has continued to meet the followingâ€ is only applicable to aircraft manufactured under TC or TCDS. 



4) That the actual â€œmassâ€ of the aircraft , at the time of takeoff,  is, at that time, the determining factor., not a design weight, or any other interpretation of â€œmaximum takeoff weightâ€ 



These are your privileges, that the FAA has stated are not affected , so as â€œamateur- homebuiltâ€ status we just move along.   We are not involved that much  in their certification and regulation process , which is the issue to them. Not our silly design weight. 



This is not an opinion. These are the facts and they are correct.

Fox5flyer
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

Steve, I admire your tenacity.  However, you've made your point many times

over and it's time to put this topic to bed.

Thanks,

Deke Morisse

List Administrator



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84KF
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

To all,



In case you havenâ€™t noticed, I have a lot time on my hands. Life is good.

  If I have a question  about  LSA issues , I need the correct answer, from someone who is irreproachable 

I go straight to the source. In this case:

 Federal Register: July 27, 2004 (Volume 69, Number 143) Page 44771-44882

Certification of Aircraft and Airmen for the Operation of Light-Sport Aircraft 



  As we all know, when you ask the FAA anything, itâ€™s not a cut and dry situation. The same here. It requires over 100 (110) pagesâ€¦.. over 103,000 words, to address all the issues and clarify each as to leave no loopholes or room for interpretation. I do not interpret   , I verify, confirm or disallow, according to the determining regulatory publication.



Just my opinion   when a reply is to be made to a â€œsubjectâ€,  Use the â€œREPLY TOâ€ button on the bottom of the last post . This maintains continuity of the subject, and does not clutter the master page with repeated postings. Yes, I find this a distraction (too) and has the perception of an argument, as compared to an ongoing discussion of a specific topic that is very selectable. 

 Does perhaps posting from an off site access page break the continuity? It seems that off site readers do  not have the features available to â€œgo with the flowâ€?

I donâ€™t knowâ€¦.

Anyway, Iâ€™m done. This is my last reply to any of the issues I presented for comment and discussion. If it will reduce the tension provoked by the argumentative and misinformed, so be it.

 I will continue to â€œlurkâ€, and gleen the  wonderful technical info as it progresses.



Deke,  Thanks for your patience

   steve

MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: Basic question : If Steve is right about LSA rules. . .

You know guys, the sooner we stop responding on this subject, the 

sooner it will go away.  Since Steve is the only guy on the planet 

who interprets the rules this way he must be right, so let's leave 

him to revel in his victory over bureaucracy.



Mike G.

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